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You know what else I liked about Hellboy (and this is probably something that goes back to the comics)? I liked that even though the BPRD is a top-secret agency whose existence the Director of the FBI denies on TV Talk Shows, they still put their logo on their airplane. That was classy.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha! I hadn't thought of that.

I like the fact that Jeffrey Tambor was not nearly as goofy as I expected him to be (especially since he played a similar role in Muppets From Space).

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought he was really good, until the inexplicable moment where they're tramping around in the booby-trapped tunnels underneath Rasputin's grave, hunting Nazis, and all he can say when he's attacked by the assassin freak is, "Hey, what do you think you're doing?" all offended and shit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought he was going to be like that the whole time, though! So I was like, "Okay, well, that gets that out of the way."

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

It was a good movie. Though there should've been vampires and werewolves and more creepiness. Less of the Predator-demons. But I liked it. I think Del Toro nailed the feel of the comics for the most part.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, yeah, that was the other that sorta bugged me about it. HB spent too much time fighting the same monsters. MORE MONSTERS, not more of the SAME monsters.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree...most of the things I didn't like about it have their roots in the comic.

My favorite moment might have been in the subway fight -- the whole taking the piss out of superheroes always having to save cute little animals and babies and whatnot, so fuck it let's HAND HIM A BOX OF KITTENS while fighting the big bad hellhound.

(x-post)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

hey! you wrote the same thing on ILComics. You're double-dipping!

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Crone (sp?) is one of the baddest-ass movie villains from a movie based on a comic book I've ever seen. Totally nightmarish.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, I was going to mention that, but figured no one reads ILC anyway.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Especially when he "bled" sand. I nearly flipped! And I loved the way you could hear his gears whirring. V. creepy. Norman Bates creepy.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved how quickly the decrepit sandbag of a corpse became unstoppable Nazi ninja motherfucker. From zero to lung-puncturing in 0.6 seconds or some shit.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Woah hold up let's back this up a second...Jeunet directed Alien 4!?!!?! Why have I not seen this yet!?!!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, he was great. And for some reason all the excessive flashy knife-whirling before he would ever actually hit anyone seemed to fit the character, like he just really enjoyed being a Nazi ninja.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Woah hold up let's back this up a second...Jeunet directed Alien 4!?!!?! Why have I not seen this yet!?!!

Plus, there's some really hot lesboedipal tension between Winona and Ripley.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Loved the sand-nazi apparently *winding himself up* prior to action moves. Loved the Russian direction-giving corpse. LOVED Abe Sapien with a very special love reserved only for effeminate fishmen.

― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

One strike against the movie - Pete Yorn doing "Red Right Hand."

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that who it was? Yes. Nick Cave's version has shown up in enough movies, what stopped them from getting it again?

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, well I thought it was kind of zzzzzzzzzzz.

I really, really wanted to like it. Bear in mind that I am a fairly avid comics reader, but I have never read Hellboy.

I just found it fairly cliched, corny and...well, boring. Ron Perlman was good enough (not great, though), but he had some terrible "one-liners" and I thought that the Hellboy character was kind of flat. I also pretty much hated that fake-looking fish thing. I didn't get the sense of "wow! comics come alive!" epic-ness that I got watching the X-men films, and felt that some of the pacing and framing would even been better suited to the comics medium (some nice use of colors, though). Maybe I missed something?

I would like to add that, on the advice above, I finally saw Blade last night and that really was something special.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 11 April 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Crone (sp?) is one of the baddest-ass movie villains from a movie based on a comic book I've ever seen.

Kroenen in the movie isn't really based on Kroenen in the books.

― Pedantic Nerd O'Gaddy (Leee), Sunday, 11 April 2004 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw it last night and it really wasn't what I was expecting. I'm surprised it has been reviewed so favorably! I do like the Hellboy comics (I wouldn't call myself a "fan", but I've read several of the TPBs and liked them a lot), but as soon as the movie started and I heard the way the lines were delivered my heart kind've sunk. I liked Blade too, so after hearing everyone say that this is Del Toro's best movie I was pretty excited. After the intro sequence I was thinking "ooh damn they already lost anyone who hasn't read the comics" and then just a little way into the movie I realized they lost me too. :(

The thing that bothered me the most was Abe Sapien as a fucking C3P0 clone! That's just so wrong!

― Dan I., Monday, 12 April 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

3P0 is waaaaaaaaaay gayer than AS.

― adam (adam), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Though talking like David Hyde Pierce is not exactly the express train to straightville.

― adam (adam), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan OTM

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

My fellow adam also OTM

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha, I always thought that the two adams were the same adam!

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 April 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

The other adam is cool, d00d. He likes Ca$h Money and comic books, as far as I can tell.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 April 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

That's why I thought it was you!

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 April 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

This was the thread where The Maxx was mentioned, right? I went ahead and bought a DVD from Ebay -- not an official release, obviously, looks like a transfer from videocassette or computer. But it's perfectly watchable -- sound's perfect, video is comparable to videocassette with awkward blacks -- and cost me like $9.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

The wonderful world of bootlegging never occurred to me. I just got one off EBay for $9.99.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)

so i saw this hellboy and i gotta say i was pretty delighted for the first act or so, i loved the way it looked and it was sort of appealing to me on every single level, except perhaps the prurient. but man does this movie sag in the middle! and the ending stinks too. i got bored and impatient.

love those tentacley space demons though.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 24 April 2004 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with you about the last two acts at least.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 25 April 2004 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)

you didn't like the beginning at all? i thought it was pretty fun.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 April 2004 04:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to see an entire movie like the WWII scenes, using the cast of Band of Brothers.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 25 April 2004 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

YES!!!!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 April 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...

I watched this tonight. I had to watch it after they nicknamed that guy on the Amazing Race "Hellboy". I thought it was too much like Blade. I guess Del Toro really has a thing for octopussy/squiddy creatures. And the fish/C3PO's voice reminded me too much of Kelsey Grammar's tight-ass brother from Frasier.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

That's because it was. The voice anyway.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

That would explain it.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 20 November 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Octo-pussoire

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 20 November 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Make sure you rub it the right way.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 20 November 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

gotta appreciate his enthusiasm but guillermo del toro pretty much sucks, doesn't he?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 20 November 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

All I know is that he *loves* tentacles and swords.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 20 November 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...

i have never read a comix book/graphic novel. EVER. but i love comic-book adaptations, i just saw 'hellboy' and loved it, loved 'from hell', love x-men, etc etc. and the thing is most people love 'spiderman' and the big ones but the more marginal stuff that never 'crossed over' (ie i'd never heard of 'hellboy' before the film, but had heard of the x-men) has these two levels of criticism going on. it's a bit like with adapted novels, but not, and enjoying them i feel a bit like a n00b or how i felt getting into hip-hop initially -- it was other people's property. i don't resent it becasue most likely if you know about x-men the comix, you'll get more out of the film -- but otoh not knowing probably means the films aren't 'spolied' by the knowledge that there's been some Really Significant Aspect that the filmmaker has travestied.

so anyway: hellboy rules (maybe lost the thread a bit at the end, tho).

― N_RQ, Monday, 4 April 2005 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Going back to the very first post:

the stories are great and well put-together and make good use of myth/history/etc without resorting to twee Neil Gaimanisms

Well it's funny you should say that because...Neil and his younger daughter Maddy are on set of Hellboy 2 for a bit cause he and Del Toro are buds. And Maddy is filing the various reports, with some photos.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 June 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

good blog, i should read it more often than once a year.

coincidently, yesterday i was moving stuff back into newly decorated bedroom and dug out all the hellboys from the various boxs of comics. there are 26 of them. turns out i am missing #5, the wolves of saint august (although i think i might have the DHP issues that they were originally in).

one day i will read them all again.

am also missing optic nerve #8. calamity.

― koogs, Monday, 2 July 2007 09:12 (eighteen years ago)

Don't worry unless you're a completist -- "Wolves of St. August" isn't very good. It's the first story that Mignola scripted on his own (<i>Seeds of Destruction</i> was scipted by Jh0n Byyyyrne), and the art is a little heavy-handed (thick inks and ugly, busy coloring).

― Leee, Monday, 2 July 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

BPRD (with art by Guy Davis!) is where it's REALLY at these days.

― Oilyrags, Monday, 2 July 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Is it? I was kind of bored with the early volumes.

― Leee, Monday, 2 July 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I'd read almost anything with Guy Davis art, but I do think the writing is also very strong right now.

― Oilyrags, Monday, 2 July 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

OILY IS RIGHT

― David R., Monday, 2 July 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

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