the wind that shakes the barley was about as good as the best of the irish troubles flicks. reminded me of 'soldier of orange' for some reason. still not as good as zodiac or no country for old men (which is awesomely directed and acted if nothing else).
― omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Armond taking Woody Allen, Dargis and AO Scott to the woodshed this week is funny stuff.
http://www.nypress.com/21/3/film/ArmondWhite.cfm
gimme Loach "earnestness" any day if you feel the cost of bloodletting in your throat.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i can understand the comparisons between there will be blood and no country, but i don't get exactly where zodiac ties into the equation. is the uniting thought that they are longish, auteurish pictures by established directors, primarily about crime in america?
― remy bean, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link
i liked no country but i like it less & less the more i think about it
― and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
while i loved zodiac and love it more & more every day
^^^^^^ >>>>>>>> (>>>>>>>) ?
― dmr, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
i like all three of them more and more with every lovely day.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
but with no country... im not that concerned with figuring out what it means, or what the moral is... i think the meaning is kinda beyond that
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Cassandra’s Dream isn’t prophecy, it’s decadence.
wtf does this even mean
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
agreed, slocks.
the thing i liked the least about zodiac (the uselessness of the rdj character) seems less and less offensive to me every day.
― remy bean, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
twbb >>>> zodiac (which i liked a lot) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no country for old men (which is doomed to mediocrity by coens' unimaginative fidelity to mediocre source material)
-- tipsy mothra, Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:55 PM
u mad doggie
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
so mad
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i just love that the characters never meet and you barely even notice that.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
man he really stuck it to dargis and scott there!!
― omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link
The Wind That Shakes The Barley was just okay, but I'll definitely take it over No Country and (most especially) Zodiac.
― milo z, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean i really liked wind shakes but i cant say i loved it. maybe i just cant fully commit to any kind of art that has no sense of humour whatsoever.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Imagine a world where every ILE film thread turns into a debate about the relative merits of Bamako, Offside and Away from Her.
I've only read NCfOM, but it didn't impress me as being solely about fate. I have no problem with genre pieces where people do stupid shit, especially in Texas.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
you should see it morbz. and on the big screen.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
offside rules though but you know that.
no country is ok, competently handled, i didn't hate it. but it's the 5th-best mccarthy book i've read and the, what, 4th- or 5th-best coen film i can think of. its acclaim really does mystify me, but so do lots of things.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
(coen movies i like better: fargo, blood simple, raising arizona, the ladykillers) (ok kidding about the ladykillers. but not kidding about the big lebowski.)
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
i just cant fully commit to any kind of art that has no sense of humour whatsoever.
-- s1ocki, Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:24 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
otm
― gbx, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
THE LADYKILLERS?!?!?
You are mad.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
xp: yeah, Cillian Murphy shoulda been braying about milkshakes just before he was executed. Instant hype and Oscar noms to follow.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
(ladykillers was a joke)
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
you know that's not what i mean.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
wind shakes was so... "DO YOU SEE? GET IT?? IRAQ MUCH??"
spoilers, yo
― omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
"wind shakes was so... "DO YOU SEE? GET IT?? IRAQ MUCH??""
I neither saw or cared much about that parallel.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link
at the end when it cuts straight to black and the "IRAQ MUCH?" title card comes up... chills.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
anyway like i said i did like it a lot... but loved it? think it was GREAT? not really.
ha, s1ocki, if that's your biggest objection to Barley -- it was Armond's too!!
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
NCFOM is better than Fargo. Fargo's too clever clever by a half.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! xp
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
i think no country probably their best.
Brother-on-brother stories are as old as civil wars, I didn't really see Iraq at all.
My problem with Barley is that it wasn't humorless so much as emotionless.
― milo z, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
ncfom isn't half-clever enough.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
I admit I've only begun to think that in the past 10 years. When I saw it initially I thought it was brilliant so I may end up feeling like that about NCFOM in 2020.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
fargo sucks.
― omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
"ncfom isn't half-clever enough."
It doesn't need to be.
boring and annoying. i used to kinda like it, too.
― omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
xp Haven't seen anything I loved or thought was great from '07 yet. Or '06 (Inland Empire closest).
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
what does that even mean (re: clever/half-clever/whatever)
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
i have no idea.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
but among the things i think no country is not enough: clever, interesting, imaginative, smart. funny. scary. sad.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
(which are all things i think twbb and zodiac have plenty of.)
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Zodiac is a good big-budget cop show (Armond thinks the voices of the men inhabiting it are too high).
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
no it's something more than that. you're not going to get away with dismissing a movie for its genre on this board, mister.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
ok now i agree with slocki.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
-- omar little, Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:09 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
insane
― and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link