The Davis-Bacon Act, passed in 1931 during the Great Depression, sets a minimum pay scale for workers on federal contracts by requiring contractors to pay the prevailing or average pay in the region. Suspension of the act will allow contractors to pay lower wages. Many Republicans have opposed Davis-Bacon, charging that it amounts to a taxpayer subsidy to unions.
― lyra (lyra), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)
yeah - looting, "stealing" food, clothes, whatever, hey I got no problem with that. Shooting doctors, raping children - uh, that's NEVER cool. And clearly they're the acts of people who figure they aren't gonna live much longer and they're already delirious and angry and out of their minds so hey, may as well do all that crazy shit they always thought about doing.
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)
i know, but it still isn't cool.
― renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)
― renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)
what the FUCK is going on in this country?
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)
God do i hope they hang for this. Figuratively or metaphorically.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)
Two websites have been established to support the cause: www.campkatrina.org and www.bushville.org
So now we have "Lake George" and "Bushville". Hmm.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 10 September 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Saturday, 10 September 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Saturday, 10 September 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)
http://presstheissue.org/music/MosDef-Dollar_Day_for_New_Oreleans...Katrina_Klap.mp3
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 10 September 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)
It was heartening, though, a couple performances earlier, to see Kanye West still at it. When he interjected that little rap about the people getting left at the Superdome into "Jesus Walks," I said YEAH! Right fuckin' on, Kanye!
It's wonderful to see him continuing to speak out against the crimes perpetrated on the people of Louisiana and Mississippi by the Bush Admin. (And on this awesome thread! You guys have been great with all the info, links and reportage. Thank you!) Those heartless motherfuckers need to pay. I don't think I've ever been so heartbroken or angry in my entire life.
― Little Mama Roux, Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)
depends. if the current ruling party has it their way, the "what we did right" parts will come out around mardi gras, and the "what we did wrong" parts will coming out in december 2006, if ever.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 10 September 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)
― M. V. (M.V.), Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)
― CQD CQD SOS SOS CQD DE MGY MGY (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)
-- Eisbär (llamasfu...), September 10th, 2005. (tracklink)
Ha, that response is fucking awesome. My jaw always drops when I hear the argument that "the person who needs it more will pay more for it." You might as well say "Let the customers fight for it. The person who values it more will fight harder."
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)
1) Karen Hughes's and others' attempts to shift the blame to the looters. Are there a small minority of people who are actually doing really heinous shit like robbing the crippled, committing rape, etc.? Yes, obviously. Are they responsible for their actions? Fucking goes without saying. But whose fault is it that there's been no order of any kind in the city? Who permitted this to happen? Does a real leader hold a press conference and say "Sorry, I know we have a crime problem, but it's all these criminals that are causing it, not me!"
2) The blame rolling off Bush like mercury and the "blame game" canard -- as though we've forgotten who makes appointments in this government. It's not like Bush didn't know before that Brown was a failed horse lawyer, a man for whom the only disaster he had ever had to deal with was his own career.
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee yesterday sent links to a Houston Chronicle blogger who had watched House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (Tex.) tour the Astrodome, where children evacuated from New Orleans were playing. The blog reported that DeLay "likened their stay to being at camp and asked, 'Now, tell me the truth, boys, is this kind of fun?' " The blogger said the youngsters "nodded yes, but looked perplexed."
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 10 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
...But now that the death toll from Katrina is threatening the inviolable aura of "3000 dead," rightwingers are playing their own form of hopscotch to put things in "proper perspective." They recognize they're in danger of losing a mass grave marker on the high moral ground.
Today, James S. Robbins pulled a Mailer on NRO, using not automobile accidents but a household item found in every medicine cabinet as his point of comparison...
in reference to Norman Mailer noting that far more people die in auto accidents every year than on 9/11, and then getting overwhelmed in attacks for that observation.
― kingfish, Saturday, 10 September 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)
...In any event, whatever the wisdom of Brown’s appointment in hindsight, firing him now would be an admission that FEMA performed poorly in the current crisis--an assertion that is constantly repeated, but for which I have seen, at this point, little hard evidence. There will be time enough for sorting out, in a rational environment, the pros and cons of FEMA’s efforts; firing Brown now would accomplish nothing but to uselessly fan the flames of hysteria.
― kingfish, Saturday, 10 September 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)
Basically, think 9/11 Commission. It took a ridiculous amount of time for that, and this is an ongoing disaster. Looking at everything retrospectively under a microscope won't be able to be done for perhaps 6 months to a year with any accuracy. As it is, its pretty much the death knell for anyone choosing to run under the Republican banner in '08 (and probably '06), unless they decide to break rank.
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Sunday, 11 September 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 11 September 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 11 September 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)
But wouldn't it be weird of New Orleans came under a Republican mayor?
― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 11 September 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Sunday, 11 September 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 11 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)
― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 11 September 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 11 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 11 September 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 11 September 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)
"The Left Celebrates Katrina Destruction,Terror Attack They've Been Waiting For"
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 11 September 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 12 September 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 12 September 2005 05:18 (twenty years ago)
Thirdly, the private sector has responded beautifully because it's great PR to do so. There's an easy conflation in everything I've read from the right on this topic between private charity and private industry acting like charity (or being prevented from doing so by red tape). But the Red Cross is designed to complement the public response in this kind of situation. It makes no difference from their end who they're complementing -- Haliburtan of the FEMA. WalMart and the charter bus companies are doing it either out of charity or out of the desire for PR or both. But once you hire somebody who's job is to do disaster relief, the PR benefit of "going the extra mile" disappears completely. You get no kudos for just doing your job.
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 12 September 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)
But the problem for these guys is, they actually don't know how to make the federal government function well. It's not part of their portfolio. That's not what they do. It's like having a pit crew that has no actual idea how a racecar works, they just know how to make it shiny for the cameras and hope it wins a race or two.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 12 September 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)
Cover-up: toxic waters 'will make New Orleans unsafe for a decade' By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Correspondent Published: 11 September 2005
Toxic chemicals in the New Orleans flood waters will make the city unsafe for full human habitation for a decade, a US government official has told The Independent on Sunday. And, he added, the Bush administration is covering up the danger.
In an exclusive interview, Hugh Kaufman, an expert on toxic waste and responses to environmental disasters at the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), said the way the polluted water was being pumped out was increasing the danger to health.
The pollution was far worse than had been admitted, he said, because his agency was failing to take enough samples and was refusing to make public the results of those it had analysed. "Inept political hacks" running the clean-up will imperil the health of low-income migrant workers by getting them to do the work.
His intervention came as President Bush's approval ratings fell below 40 per cent for the first time. Yesterday, Britain's Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott, turned the screw by criticising the US President's opposition to the Kyoto protocol on global warming. He compared New Orleans to island nations such as the Maldives, which are threatened by rising sea levels. Other US sources spelt out the extent of the danger from one of America's most polluted industrial areas, known locally as "Cancer Alley". The 66 chemical plants, refineries and petroleum storage depots churn out 600m lb of toxic waste each year. Other dangerous substances are in site storage tanks or at the port of New Orleans. No one knows how much pollution has escaped through damaged plants and leaking pipes into the "toxic gumbo" now drowning the city. Mr Kaufman says no one is trying to find out.
Few people are better qualified to judge the extent of the problem. Mr Kaufman, who has been with the EPA since it was founded 35 years ago, helped to set up its hazardous waste programme. After serving as chief investigator to the EPA's ombudsman, he is now senior policy analyst in its Office of Solid Wastes and Emergency Response. He said the clean-up needed to be "the most massive public works exercise ever done", adding: "It will take 10 years to get everything up and running and safe."
Mr Kaufman claimed the Bush administration was playing down the need for a clean-up: the EPA has not been included in the core White House group tackling the crisis. "Its budget has been cut and inept political hacks have been put in key positions," Mr Kaufman said. "All the money for emergency response has gone to buy guns and cowboys - which don't do anything when a hurricane hits. We were less prepared for this than we would have been on 10 September 2001."
He said the water being pumped out of the city was not being tested for pollution and would damage Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi river, and endanger people using it downstream.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article311818.ece
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)