A new 30 Rock thread because I can't find the old one

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Trapper and Henry's last ep was the season 3 finale.

different cerie in the pilot too! (sorry if that was mentioned before... with 4600+ posts it's probably time for a new thread.)

sitcoms have definitely gotten more into continuity and long term storylines and character changes in the past 10 years (which is the only reason why 30 Rock's relative stasis seems interesting next to, like, The Office or How I Met Your Mother), but yeah lots of show have had big changes from year to year, whether it's soapy story arcs on Friends or just kids growing up on Roseanne or whatever.

The introduction of David into Roseanne was handled really, really well I think (except for the fact his name was Kevin in the first episode in which he appeared).

In the workplace-sitcom category, Newsradio was similarly static. No changes til Catherine left halfway through the 4th season. Even at the time, it felt like the writers were kinda steadfastly holding against the trends by avoiding any major story arcs/changes.

naw, lisa took dave's job for a while, dave and lisa's relationship was off and on, matthew was fired for a few episodes, etc

i dunno, the matthew fired, lisa the boss storylines were pretty clearly just temporary changes, like jack leaving GE to work in the bush administration. Also both of those didn't come til the fourth season.

sitcoms have definitely gotten more into continuity and long term storylines and character changes in the past 10 years (which is the only reason why 30 Rock's relative stasis seems interesting next to, like, The Office or How I Met Your Mother)

This has definitely improved overall sitcom quality of writing, character depth, and general enjoyment for me personally - but I do think this is also why sitcoms in general have declined hugely in ratings and audience size - it's quite telling the #1 sitcom has been Two and a Half Men for many years now.

even 2 And A Half Men has a good amount of continuity! lot of changing relationships, recurring characters, season-long arcs, etc.

Really? I'll cop to being ignorant about it, but I'll catch a random glimpse of an ep, even recent ones, it still seems to be the same basic setup of those three characters being the same role they've always been in - wisecracking kid, milque toast, and Charlie Sheen as himself, with the mother popping in randomly.

i remember dunham from so long ago, like the mtv half hour comedy hour era.

Think I posted this on another thread, but I remember Dunham from Comic Strip Live in like 1991, which is why it's weird to me that he's only now blowing up.

James Franco to guest on 30 Rock

oh yes

"Ready for the latest twist in the incredibly wild and unpredictable career of one James Franco?"

Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember Please be new castmember

speculation: if their relationship is arranged by their agents, then it's probably because Franco is gay and needs a beard, so, duh, of ~course~ it's Jenna

jack/agents bring him on as new castmember solely to arrange the otherwise unlikely circumstances that could see a plausible franco/jenna hook-up

oooooh normally i hate all the guest start stuff but franco!!!!!

Franco was at NYU the other day. He walked by me in the hall (or so I was told by the person sitting next to me -- I was reading and didn't look up until it was too late).

he goes to nyu, so he's probably there a lot of days!

crazy!

wait he 'goes' to nyu? he's in college??

grad school

hes studying to become a scientist

golly

studying to become a dungeon master.

carlos the dwarf, graduate student

I know a guy whose ex-roommate was a student at NYU, and apparently one day Franco (who I guess he must have been in a class with) came over to their place and just hung out and had a couple of beers.

ppl do that!

not scientists

i know a guy

Or maybe this was at Columbia? I dunno. I think he's doing like three concurrent MFAs.

good for you. btw cutty your nn thread is too huge for me to think about opening, god knows i had to take it off my bookmarks but i am eating a banana and you are a bro for the nn thing.

i know a guy

This guy.

?

Maybe I misread Cutty, but I thought his post was expressing skepticism at this "guy" I "know."

no, everyone knows a guy who had beers with james franco

Less than 5000 people turned in to watch it in Germany, it got a 0.0 in the ratings.

http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2009/11/03/germans-to-30-rock-wir-verstehen-nicht/

iirc germans prefer
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Grendler.JPG

that's true, haha, lemon is old

and sheeee, was a horse

haaaaaaaaaaa @ jenna being the same age 20 years ago

The woodsman's companion

he's evil COMMA tracy

This is my reimbursement for gas. I drove a million miles.

BILARIOUS.

oh no, what's wrong with them?

OMG Kathy Geiss!

is the robot james franco?

Ooh, I hope so!