Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

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― Matt DC, Friday, 30 October 2009 16:08 (Yesterday)

Yeah, it's not like he's a first draft writer.

― Otter madness (Nicole), Friday, 30 October 2009 16:10 (Yesterday)

i assumed we all thought this a good thing!

i don't think he is doing the Dalek episode(s) i've heard about tho

Fuuuuuuuuuck Dalek episodes.

They'd better not fly about this time. Hate it when they fly.

but if they didn't there would be the shit stairs escape every time

I don't mind them levitating! Just all the flying through the fucking air in foramtion shit. What a cheat that is.

(lol im drunk)

First time (nuWho first time, at least), when Lynda-with-a-Y was trapped and they all showed up out the window in front of her, that was cool, millions of them, being scary as fuck and flying and shit. Now, they are really really tedious.

I'll be honest, only the first Ecclescake dalek ep did anything for me (and that can't ever have happened now under Rusty continuity). Never been that huge a fan of the daleks, my favourite stories with them in (The Mutants excepted) are the ones with other plots in them, like 'Day of...' with the time travel predestination stuff. Oh, and technically daleks have always been able to fly for almost as long as we have known them (in the 'date shown on screen context) - they have "anti-gravitation disks" as far back as 'Dalek Invasion Of Earth'.

On Tennant in SJA, I thought the opposite, that he worked far better in that precisely because he's reduced to a couple of crap gurns and if his Doctor is always going to be played that way rather than do it on something more obviously targeted at younger children than the main show. Still would rather have him on neither, mind. And this series of SJA hasn't been that great, although YAY for K9 being back.

Do I need to seek out these SJA eps to be adequately prepared for the November special?

I don't think there's anything you need to know (except a hint that the Doctor will "go through a gateway", which may be a reference to the upcoming animated thingy).

UH

http://sensei.sttrinnians.net/comic.php?1

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/760/sensei1.jpg

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I am lolling at the 'actor' names at the bottom of these DVD covers.
http://sensei.sttrinnians.net/artwork/3senseis.jpg
http://sensei.sttrinnians.net/artwork/5senseis.jpg

Having investigated the website I am not sure exactly how RONG these are but I need to continue to investigate to find out.

I am watching K9 & Company. IT IS GRATE AND YOU ARE ALL RONG. (Haha, the swinger subtext line has just been uttered.)

Notice they haven't tried to make Sylvester McCoy into a cute manga chick.

Manga Brigadier is perhaps the wrongest thing.

intrigued by those shots of new TARDIS interior. looks nicely jules vernish.

rewatched numerous DT episodes a few weeks back and i really like The Impossible Planet a lot now - Rose hurling her phone to the ground after receiving the "he is awake" message is a fantastic moment

Notice they haven't tried to make Sylvester McCoy into a cute manga chick.

― OK Abacus (chap), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 17:07 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Oh but they have:

http://sensei.sttrinnians.net/artwork/nigelsensei06.png

But if I have understood the sick world of manga that is Colin Baker.

you're quite right, but this is Mccoy I think

http://sensei.sttrinnians.net/artwork/tugofsensei.jpg

Even in manga he is a troll.

lol @ the Doctor as manga schoolmarm

also lol @ Colin Baker as fiesty

sick sad world

Hot McCoy here:
http://sensei.sttrinnians.net/artwork/sensei7.jpg

Is that sposed to be Ecclestone in the front?

... I have no idea, but what happened to McGann?

looks like Ace in the front?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NubmCVGhJnY

Wish I could have watched that with some young kids.

Ah, it was okay. Proof will be whether I've got them climbing into our bed tonite cos they can't sleep. Roll on the Moffat era.

Trailer for Christmas was more exciting than the episode. Like the idea of doctor off the rails though. Will he crush coal to make diamonds next

Or whether they'll have a bath??

Pretty good I thought. A hell of a lot better than the last one anyway. Bit confused about what the Ood have to do with anything, but I guess it'll be cleared up.

No eating carrots ever, either.

loved this mostly - getting awesomely dark now

Bit confused about what the Ood have to do with anything

goes back to when it said his song was ending, telepathic link etc.

loved this a great deal. worried about how this pans out, if only because RTD always has marvelous grand concepts of guilt and restraint and the doctor as survivor and 'who decides?' only to cock it all up in the details with over the top Daleks vs. Cybermen and so forth.

that said, it feels as though he's been holding the cards for this one since eccleston. the past four seasons have been the legacy of the time war, and the psychological ramifications of pressing the button. Adelaide's nobility on Mars was the sacrifice of herself and her team to save her universe. in saving her life, the Doctor placed her in his shoes circa Rose - alive after the apocalypse, but not wanting to be. he's gone from survivor's guilt to no mercy to interference within the old rules to no rules whatsoever. and if he's decided to go from Doctor-ing time to Master-ing it instead, the return of John Simm to take him down is fitting.

waiting to see how it all plays out, and hoping that the traditional end-of-season companion-stravaganza is used in service of plot and not just for the spectacle.

I don't know if I'm more excited by the return of the master or the return of bernard cribbins.

(Also was the end credit's music different, more traditional, or is it just that there is no voice over on iplayer)

That was definitely one of the better tennant ones.

usual nu-Who caveats aside (too goofy at times, awful editing), I really loved this. It was basically using the obvious out that is always explained away (can't you use the Tardis? no, locked into events blah blah blah) and then realizing, 'oh fuck, the ramifications'. Bleak as hell. Lindsey Duncan was great.

Ood as the Watcher, apparently, whatever that is.

Wait, how did I not know this was on? Did the BBC just not promote it very heavily or have I just not been paying attention?

It was somehwat gazumped promotion-wise by 1) new series of Top Gear 2) all the Saturday football

We only knew it was on as of 3 hours beforehand, when we were standing at a supermarket checkout queue and noticed it was on the front cover of the Radio Times on the shelves. Which made me assume that it must've been on on Saturday and I'd missed it - seemed a bit of a weird time, especially with Antiques Roadshow afterwards, but I guess Sunday evening is a traditional family drama slot on the Beeb.

Last 10 minute – as the Doctor decides that he has all this power and why the fuck shouldn't he use it? – were terrific. Thought the rest was an inferior run-through of the same plot that had already been used for The Satan Pit: human scientific settlement on remote planet, uncover some long contained hell through their meddling, it infects the crew ... How can they be saved? The difference was that The Satan Pit was actually scary, and played brilliantly on myths and legends from outside the Whoniverse (fantastic: the notion that Satan is not some product of religion, but a lifeforce so incomprehensibly powerful that even bazillions of years after its imprisonment, it continues to haunt the imaginations of those with no conception it could be real).

And of course, The Satan Pit was basically the plot of a thousand Sci-Fi films.

i think tWoM was better executed than The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit tho the latter was a stronger concept (and as i said upthread really seems better after a few views)...but then Waters of Mars only had 60 minutes to TIP/TSP's 90. i would gladly have watched another half hour of last night's.

thought there was a bit of a nod to Dr Manhattan who in Watchmen goes to Mars just to potter around and contemplate. not sure if this was intentional, but then it was never stated why the Doctor was there having seemingly chosen a random date.

I thought the bit at the beginning where he goes through the crew members' names and it cuts to some crappy website with biographical details - each one having a date of death of 2059 *dun dun duhhhh* - was hilarious. It was also something of a jump to go from "I'm hearing the agonised final moments of people and want to save them even if I shouldn't" to "I R WINNAH, GONNA PWN TEH WATERY N00BS, TIMELORD VICTORIOUS, W00T!", but then maybe I shouldn't be too upset about the minutiae of Doctor Who plot points. It was pretty fun overall.

It was also something of a jump to go from "I'm hearing the agonised final moments of people and want to save them even if I shouldn't" to "I R WINNAH, GONNA PWN TEH WATERY N00BS, TIMELORD VICTORIOUS, W00T!",

yeah you're right, they rushed this bit but i think it really hammered home how much I'm gonna miss David Tennant - I mean, no one pulls off heroically powerful but vulnerable and completely terrifying all in fifteen minutes quite like DT. that said, really hope the Moff/Smith-era Doctor won't be so fucking angsty all the time.

the rest of the episode was pretty fun if a bit too much of a retread of 42/The Satan Pit.

I like the angst but I'd like it centered away from the Doctor for a while so other people get to go thru hellish existential crises and he just has to watch impassively/give it the Arshavin shrug at the end of the ep. Also I'd like to go a season without the fabric of time and the universe being threatened in the last story plz.

other people get to go thru hellish existential crises and he just has to watch impassively/give it the Arshavin shrug at the end of the ep

well this was actually his intention