quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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how did we miss this

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/dining/28Date.html?ref=dining

goole, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

WHEN Jenny Kirsten, a producer for the Food Network, went on her first date with Jason Beberman, a chef at Dressler in Brooklyn, they didn’t splurge on a multicourse dinner with wine pairings. Instead, they went to the Rusty Knot, a West Village bar that teeters between dive and chic, for picklebacks: a shot of whiskey with a pickle juice chaser. They split a gourmet chicken liver sandwich — with bacon and red onion marmalade — followed by a couple of Tecates with salt on the rim, and then played the free jukebox.

Whatever, it worked: a year later, they are still together. Now their idea of a romantic meal might be a burger at Back Forty, a neighborhood place in the East Village with epicurean credibility; the burger is made of grass-fed beef and comes with homemade ketchup. They prefer to sit at the bar.

“We can cut the burger and share the fries, and make a date-night toast,” Ms. Kirsten said. She sighed contentedly. “I’m too in love for my own good.”

goole, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago)

holy shit

i get SO CLOWNED for chasing shots with pickle juice - shit just ELIMINATES THE COMPETITION tbh

highly recommended

a goon boy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

Friend & I once were alternating shots of ALbertson's store-brand Heritage Vodka ($13 a handle) and pickle brine...it was like drinking gasoline.

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:54 (sixteen years ago)

Instead he and his wife, Sonja Johansson, a Feldenkrais practitioner, find romance in the fried chicken spots hidden on second floors in Koreatown.

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

the nytimes has this impressive ability to make everything fun seem lame

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

this second floor fried chicken spot is totally hidden except for the huge flashing sign outside

ice cr?m, Friday, 30 October 2009 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

haha, yeah, apparently Ezra Klein follows this sort of stuff too. He linked to that story this morning with this:

Congrats to the New York Times trendspotting team, which has recently learned that young people occasionally go on dates to hip, trendy gastropubs as opposed to pricey, fussy French restaurants. Reporting!

WmC, Friday, 30 October 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

a story about dates involving Gray's Papaya = something I would read

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 30 October 2009 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

hot dog; hallway.

ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 23:10 (sixteen years ago)

there should really be a hallway hot dog place

sarahel, Friday, 30 October 2009 23:10 (sixteen years ago)

No results found for "halloway's hot dogs".

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 30 October 2009 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

Ugh, I would never survive in a relationship founded on the principle of buying one meal and cutely splitting it in half.

This revisionist bible is delicious (reddening), Saturday, 31 October 2009 01:14 (sixteen years ago)

this one puzzled me...she was too poor to visit her parents for the holidays, was eating Saltines and Kraft cheese, yet she also has an art collection she's slowly selling off, is taking her time to consider writing a book, and moved to Greenwich?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/opinion/25kolhatkar.html?_r=1&scp=31&sq=october+25+2009&st=nyt

henry s, Saturday, 31 October 2009 02:25 (sixteen years ago)

It's not really suspicious that a former art gallery owner has an art collection, and it suggests she moved in with her boyfriend in Greenwich. Also there's a good chance she has debt from her failed business. Not that you should feel sorry for her, I just don't think there's anything puzzling there.

Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Saturday, 31 October 2009 06:11 (sixteen years ago)

Becky, 43, is not one of the blonde wisps usually seen working at chic Manhattan art spaces — she has a big head of curly black hair and chunky eyeglasses.

she OWNED the gallery

ice cr?m, Saturday, 31 October 2009 06:16 (sixteen years ago)

lol everyone knows how rare it is to see people with chunky glasses at art galleries

I DIED, Saturday, 31 October 2009 06:39 (sixteen years ago)

thinking thats prob new york times style manual for "fattay"

ice cr?m, Saturday, 31 October 2009 06:44 (sixteen years ago)

big head

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Saturday, 31 October 2009 07:16 (sixteen years ago)

I dunno...she claims to have nothing, yet she also has an art collection (which she has the opportunity to sell off slowly), has the luxury of time to contemplate a new career and the possibility of writing a book...she's in a bad place to be sure, but I'm thinking a lot of people blindsided by this economy would be really envious of her predicament...

henry s, Saturday, 31 October 2009 12:25 (sixteen years ago)

LOL you try getting an ex-gallerist to do a fire sale on the secondary market. It's the last thing they'd do because the artists in question have to hold value and they also get very, very pissed off when their work is sold like this.

fake plastic butts (suzy), Saturday, 31 October 2009 14:00 (sixteen years ago)

huh? she's not the worst-suffering person in America therefore she deserves no pity? she was a self-made woman who lost her business/savings/apartment/purpose.

there's nothing in that article that suggests she's a bad person other than that she's dating an ex-finance guy, so I'm not sure why you're so keen on attacking her. so yeah, not all recession stories are poor people becoming poorer, sometimes it's upper-middle class people becoming lower-middle class...

iatee, Saturday, 31 October 2009 16:15 (sixteen years ago)

Ilxors rag nyt about it because basically all of the lifestyles pieces there regarding the recession are about upper-middle class or rich people "suffering" somehow. It's not newsy and it's not even interesting reading, unless you want to say, "OMG, this is stupid. Tom, look at this." Brick and mortar trolls.

bamcquern, Saturday, 31 October 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

This week's episode of Frontline reminded me of this thread when I was watching it:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/closetohome/view/

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 31 October 2009 17:34 (sixteen years ago)

xp - i dunno, maybe i'm overthinking it, but i feel like it's a weird mix of aspirational fantasy and schadenfreude, that yes, is blunted by repetition.

sarahel, Saturday, 31 October 2009 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

I think that's right.

Some of it is also "Oh how the mighty have fallen"

Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Saturday, 31 October 2009 19:18 (sixteen years ago)

definitely - but the crux of these stories is - they haven't fallen all that far compared with "the rest of us."

sarahel, Saturday, 31 October 2009 19:28 (sixteen years ago)

basically all of the lifestyles pieces there regarding the recession are about upper-middle class or rich people "suffering" somehow.

to be fair (not that that's the overarching purpose of this thread), the art-gallery owner was part of an op-ed page package that also included this, this and this. none of which are necessary revelatory or gripping, but they mostly don't involve upper-middle-class or rich people.

STRATE IN2 DAKRNESS (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 31 October 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

His apartment is not “big and lush and grandiose,” he said, “but sometimes you want to have a ridiculous 150 people and a world-class D.J. in your basement.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/realestate/08cov.html

I DIED, Saturday, 7 November 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

But these days, to afford these sexy-factor places, Mr. Seawood said, bachelors make concessions, either by sacrificing location or by “tag teaming,” as he calls subdividing a space. In previous years, for a $3,500-a-month one-bedroom, “I would have had a few solo guys. Now it’s like, ‘Me and my buddy are going to be here,’ ” he said.

sounds like Mr. Seawood has a rich fantasy life

dmr, Sunday, 8 November 2009 04:29 (sixteen years ago)

a two-bedroom condominium in a new building in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, for which he paid $3,300 a month.

sentences like this make my head spin.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 November 2009 13:28 (sixteen years ago)

the $500,000 apartment purchase "on a decrepit block in Bushwick" is even more o_0

dmr, Sunday, 8 November 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

Uneasy lies the head that strolls a baby

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 November 2009 18:47 (sixteen years ago)

Elsewhere:

Part of the appeal, in fact, is in how the clothes relate not to the runways or the estates of Europe, but to America’s heartland in ways that few fashions do. Country and city men alike have rediscovered old-school American brands like Filson, Orvis, L. L. Bean and Duluth Pack.

...wait, L. L. Bean 'rediscovered'?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 November 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

Three webpages worth.

bamcquern, Thursday, 12 November 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

the best part about how quickly fashion trends change is that you can write the same article every 9-18 months and still have it be up-to-date

max, Thursday, 12 November 2009 18:52 (sixteen years ago)

i always wonder what it must be like to write the least important articles for the newspaper of record. would i care more about writing the crappy content our would i still feel proud of where i did it?

the only luxurious aspect of my bachelor pad is that i don't have to pick up the laundry off the floor every day.

where do they find these people?

Shh! It's NOT Me!, Thursday, 12 November 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

guys wanna see the front page washington post style story today?

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

the writers at the SF Chronicle must have internal competitions for who can write the puffiest puff piece.

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:02 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/11/AR2009111127404.html?hpid=topnews

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:03 (sixteen years ago)

this was front page of the entire newspaper

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/11/AR2009111115683.html

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

The culprits could be anywhere -- a crowded train, an SUV on the Beltway

max, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

Naked things. Naked, noisy things, unfettered by the restraints of human anatomy
!!!!

provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

Teenager Writes In Indecipherable Street Slang

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Thursday, 12 November 2009 20:32 (sixteen years ago)

hippos are pretty fucking important imo.

ian, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

indecipherable

nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

"where's my pancakes" is not that hard to understand? dude just wants some eats.

ian, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

Nu-Americana has been a big trend for a couple of years now. Hard to imagine it's not on its way out.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

ilx needs more hippos posting

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

I enjoyed it, though, because my lumberjack beard and flannel made me look fashion-forward rather than unkempt.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)


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