Yeah, I know she did a guest spot but considering they're down two team members (including their medic), I'm curious as to whether she'll become a full-time member.
― HI DERE, Friday, 27 June 2008 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link
this is kinda SPOILERY but interesting:
How difficult was it to perfect the voice of the deranged Dalek Caan? Briggs: "Well, it was a great challenge, a bit like when we did the Dalek Emperor in the first series. When Russell [T Davies] introduces a character like that, there is a whole chunk of stuff in the script that describes the voice. He did the same for Dalek Caan, which gave me a real key into what I could do. Then I evolved all these different theories about Dalek Caan's neurons firing in the wrong direction in his brain. He can't tell when he's happy or sad, his emphasis is very strange and he finds things funny when things aren't funny. He's a kind of soothsayer really. His mind is almost pure."
― blueski, Friday, 27 June 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Ianto's in the trailers for the next Doctor Who, there's a clip of Gwen shushing him and then the two of them firing machine guns at something that's trying to enter the Hub. I don't know if it's spoilery to say what they're shooting at, but it's pretty clear from this trailer what it is.
Also, if you slow down that trailer, you'll notice at one point they show the return of a certain S1 character that we haven't heard anything about in a while.
― reddening, Friday, 27 June 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
HAHAHA YES
― HI DERE, Friday, 27 June 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Harriet Jones? Clocked her right away when the "next week" bit was on after Turn Left. Or is there someone else in that I missed?
― ailsa, Friday, 27 June 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Not reading thread for fear of spoilering but OMG OMG OMG OMG
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link
OH MY GOD!
― Chess, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I'M SHAKING.
― chap, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
POSSIBLE SPOILER IF I'M RIGHT:
Dalek Caan called the Doctor the 'three-fold man', so Ireckonnextweekwe'll get New Doctor, Tennant and Ecclestone.
― chap, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
If they regenerate Tennant, well done for keeping that one quiet, but have nagging feeling of big reset button being hit at the start of the next one. Still OMG OMG OMG.
― ailsa, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
I think they're gonna cheat on the regeneration somehow but I'm not reading that possible spoiler chap just posted so who knows?
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Nice touch with the Mr Copper Foundation (the dude that the Doctor gave the million pound credit card to in Voyage of the Damned).
― ailsa, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Hey, well remembered. Good nerding!
― chap, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.moviesforguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/startrek2khan.jpg
CAAAAAN!!!!
― Jarlrmai, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Davros was good.
― chap, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
That's the first time the Daleks have felt scary since I was a kid, maybe. They aren't fucking around. Awful lot of plot to sort out in the final episode, dear god don't let it end on a clifffhanger please this is not America.
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I occasionally have a dream where there are huge planets hanging in the night sky just like tonight's ep, weirdly. Wonder if Russell T has had the same dream?
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Did I imagine the "sound of drums" rhythm turning up at one point?
― Chess, Saturday, 28 June 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
No, it played over the TV or over the subwave. Kids are all hmmmmmmm. Our Hannah has a theory that the Doctor might somehow regenerate into the Master.
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 28 June 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
eh.
― thomp, Saturday, 28 June 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
what if he degenerated to become ecclestone again
― zappi, Saturday, 28 June 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I've heard the The Master theory before (well, John Simm anyway), the logic being that the Master stole the Dr's next regeneration from the Tardis so that's what he'll look like the next time he changes.
― Chess, Saturday, 28 June 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Silly question maybe, but isn't Tennant supposed to be in the christmas episode?
― treefell, Saturday, 28 June 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Aye, but Ecclescake was meant to be in his Christmas episode, but Tennant turned up at the end of the series and blindsided everyone. Will be v. impressed if they pull this off again.
― ailsa, Saturday, 28 June 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Will be mad cross if that UNIT gizmo that Martha has is the great big reset button.
― ailsa, Saturday, 28 June 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
there was SO MUCH STUFF in there though! I might be posting random gibberings for days.
yes, but it was forty minutes about people trying to get signal
― thomp, Saturday, 28 June 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
the entire next series will consist of rose tyler waiting for a text message report and making sad faces
This episode built up a point about the Doctor (Tennant) saving Davros's life. It seems pretty clear to me, therefore, that the intention is to have Tennant's Doctor do a proper face-off against Davros. If the narrative is in any way satisfying, this has to be seen through.
That's why I think the regeneration will fail, anyway. Hmm. I dunno.
BUT GOD WHAT AN EPISODE.
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 28 June 2008 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Was just in the pub chatting about who would be good for the next Doctor, and the name me and my mate agreed on was Chiwetel Eijofor.
Again: BEST CLIFFHANGER EVER.
― chap, Saturday, 28 June 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh the reset button fear. And the problem is, we already know what the reset button will be (there is still something on Donna's back after all). Which allows us to have a regeneration fun episode without that actor actually committing beyond one episode (if that even happens).
At least Harriet Jones went out almost in style (bitchy Daleks with the "we know". The hand is still in the Tardis too - I have a theory about that. But basically if Torchwood and Sarah Jane are about to be killed, it will be a weak explaination to stop that happening (and both spin off series are continuing).
Didn't Mr Smith turn evil in the last episode of the Sarah Jane Adventures?
― Pete, Sunday, 29 June 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
there is still something on Donna's back after all
Bah, didn't think of that.
Much as I love Tennant, I'm stoked for a regen and hope they go through with it.
― chap, Sunday, 29 June 2008 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Dalek Caan mentions something about "the threefold doctor" coming. DT+CE+new bloke?
― Chess, Sunday, 29 June 2008 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh and Osterhagen = anagram of "Earth's gone"
― Chess, Sunday, 29 June 2008 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link
terrible, worse than when i gave up on this show 2 years ago, i can't believe people get excited over this crap
― DG, Sunday, 29 June 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link
valuable input, DG.
It was pretty great tonight, though once again I'm left with the question: "why don't I just downl@0ad it after the finale".
― Gukbe, Sunday, 29 June 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Fun ep. I enjoyed the multiple people running around, cutting back & forth bits, as well as Judoon popping up and actually showing "the Shadow Proclamation" and "The Meduse Cascade" onscreen.
I do wonder if the recent news that "Tennant might still be interested" as well as how he's going to be in next year's specials is nothing but a headfake.
Still waiting for a good latter-day multi-doctor story; bring on McGann & Ecclestone & Richard E. Grant for no good reason.
Also wondering if the jerk-offs who run the Sci-Fi Channel will get wise enough to realize that they can head off a lot of immediate downloading as well as boosting rating(somewhat, if nothing else), just by showing the latest ep the same night as its original transmission, not this two week delay bullshit.
― kingfish, Sunday, 29 June 2008 01:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh and did anyone else get serious BSG-Hybrid-type vibes off of the mad Dalek Caan?
― kingfish, Sunday, 29 June 2008 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry i interrupted the cuddle-fest gukbe :(
― DG, Sunday, 29 June 2008 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I think the point is more if your going to do a challops explain it in a bit of detail, don't just drop a quick moan bomb.
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 29 June 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link
(I've done it myself so I'm not criticising)
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 29 June 2008 03:43 (fifteen years ago) link
My guess: the Doctor will regenerate into the same body, using the hand in the box (which we got a good Chekov's-gun-on-the-wall look at) as some sort of guide for his regenerating body to use to be Tennant again: thus he will be Doctors 10 AND 11.
― James Morrison, Sunday, 29 June 2008 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, loved it. Also, how to wait another fucking week?!!
No offense intended, DG. I could mount massive amounts of criticism of the show as a whole, and can't really argue with anyone who finds it crap. Just, ya know, "was shit and still shit" doesn't really say much.
― Gukbe, Sunday, 29 June 2008 05:13 (fifteen years ago) link
+ davros - everything else (esp the music, srsly BBC sack that composer guy)
― DG, Sunday, 29 June 2008 05:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I think I give nu-Who too much leniency because of the "it's a kids/family show" argument. Also, "at least the Doctor isn't running with the Olympic Torch".
― Gukbe, Sunday, 29 June 2008 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i avoided that one
― DG, Sunday, 29 June 2008 05:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Fucking EPIC. So glad I finally caught up to the last 3 weeks of episodes, goddamn it has been awesome.
― Nhex, Sunday, 29 June 2008 05:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, and screw you guys whoever brought up the Davros thing so many weeks ago the last time I checked and then fled this thread. Was it really necessary to spoil it?
― Nhex, Sunday, 29 June 2008 05:33 (fifteen years ago) link
the BBC trailers spoiled it before tonight. More interesting is what's become of Dalek Caan. And what's the deal with the Red Dalek?
― Gukbe, Sunday, 29 June 2008 05:38 (fifteen years ago) link