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nah, i don't that's fair.

N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

One of the objectives of terrorism is to undermine people's trust in their supposed "protectors," i.e. government and police. One way of doing this is to conjure up mythical conspiracy theories, with the intention of setting the populace against their rulers.

So how do we know that "Phil Howe" is not an al-Qaeda operative?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

"Well Toby such is the wonders of education and historical study, tends to teach you things you might not of previously known."

Somehow 'education & historical study' reads to me as, communing on the internet with other like-minded & equally pompous souls trading endless boneheaded theories about the illuminati/9-11/lizards/etc...

mzui (mzui), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Pelletiere wrote that Saddam Hussein has much to answer for in the area of human rights abuses. ”But accusing him of gassing his own people at Halabja as an act of genocide is not correct, because as far as the information we have goes, all of the cases where gas was used involved battles. These were tragedies of war. There may be justifications for invading Iraq, but Halabja is not one of them.”

gassing civilians: genocide
gassing conscripts: tragedy of war

N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Marcello I have not a clue what your talking about to be honest. But if it helps and should anyone really have any reason to check out my IP address then let me assist you. I am at work at the moment, I work for MCI/Worldcom, my office is located in Amsterdam. By night I write from home, I have a non fixed IP address account and live in Utrecht.

I hope this helps you Marcello. For security reasons, given that I work for the company largely responsible for the creation, up keep and evolution of the internet and future communications you will forgive me If I do not divulge further details that could see me fired.


Regards,


Phil_howe, Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Phil (BRANE SIZE 140) kills teh lizards spitting his bacca at them

xp

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

I work for MCI/Worldcom, my office is located in Amsterdam. By night I write from home, I have a non fixed IP address account and live in Utrecht.

phil, for you own safety: run, get off the grid, disappear. if you know anything about marcello (codename IMPROV) you will know you have about 6 minutes' head start here.

N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)


Oh My Marcello your conspiracy theories make mine look like tax receipts.

Perhaps my photo on my site might convince you I really wouldn't look good with a turban and that I am far to sexy to blow myself to pieces.

Or perhaps not, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all.


Mind you when that picture was taken I had 3rd degree sdum burns from the Portugese heat, man it ficking hurt, at that point blowing myself up would a great relief.

Surfice to say I would of done it in solitude, perhaps in the sea? ......Oh crap but what about the widdle fishes?


hmmmmmm...


Clearly I annoy and anger most of you. There is really no point me hanging around, I have a girlfriend to verbally abuse me, Is that not punishment enough?


regards,

Phil Howe, Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

england prevails, phil.

N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Clearly I annoy and anger most of you.

Come off it. "Amuse", perhaps.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

So how do we know that "Phil Howe" is not an al-Qaeda operative?

This (and the idea that Phil posted pics to the Liz thread) is fighting conspiracy theory with conspiracy theory, paranoia with paranoia. I've noticed this happening before on ILX, when aggressive trolls are confronted with aggression far more trollish than their own. It doesn't look like a self-assured response at all.

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Amuse, not annoy and anger.

Hey look, we both had the same thought, at the same time, sitting only inches apart. We are not longer in control of our minds.

OK, more than inches.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

I can't work out if he's barking mad, or just trying to wind everyone up. (Phil, not Momus).

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

aw phil :( you can always stay and talk about fishes with us.. if you log out first you might even want to talk about the kinky stuff you do with your girlfriend! conspiracy theories are just a little dull t'is all!

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

WHO YOU CALLING AN AGGRESSIVE TROLL YOU CUNTIN CURRIE CUNT

*pause*

Anyway we've only got his word on any of that. Can't trust anyone these days. Not even you, Momus. That's the plan.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Come off it Miller, we know you two share a chair.

xpost

Raston Worrier Robot (alix), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

what's 'bacca'?

and momus, i read MC's statement with a touch of humor, and don't think anyone on this board has been aggressive to phil...anyone that comes around bragging about how clever they are, and how silly we are for believing something in the media is bound to get a response, and it all seemed fairly measured.

several xposts

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

conspiracy theories, like truth, are in the eye of the beholder. i'm not sure what either of them are 'for'

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

cuntin' currie cunt isn't quite as good as fucking fanny fartface.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

I have a girlfriend to verbally abuse me

This piece of information has cheered me up no end

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

or, to put it another way, to believe nothing is true, is the same as believing everything is true, the disengagement of critical thought, in favour of being told of grand, comforting schemes

the reality of bunglers is scarier than the comfort blanket of secret order

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Clearly I annoy and anger most of you. There is really no point me hanging around, I have a girlfriend to verbally abuse me, Is that not punishment enough?

Identity solved, Phil has revealed himself as Calum.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

i too am relieved that it wasn't gerbil abuse

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

We only have one more day of Chair-Share bliss, Raston.

I don't think anything is happening at Euston.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

the reality of bunglers is scarier than the comfort blanket of secret order

this isn't very funny, but i googled now so:

http://www.tellytunes.com/wallpapers/rainbow_bungle_800.jpg

N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)


I don't think I was ever aggressive was I?

And I'm just trying to wind anyone up. Like I said, I saw a lot of hits coming from this place and wanted to check it out, saw some people misrepresenting me so wanted to state my case.


Conspiracy theories, the real ones, do tend to be dull, fantasy-the reality we generally live in- is fun. Personally I like to know what is going on and don't like being taken for an idiot or lied to.

Still when I'm not all serious and dull i'm a damn funny dude with the looks of bond and starry eyed girls trying to get me into bed. You probably didn't need to know that did you? If you didn't hate me before .............

Phil Howe, Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/SW_chewbacca_statue_L.jpg

(CEO of company responsible for the creation, up-keep and evolution of the internet and all future communication and technologies ever)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

The Reality of Bunglers

At last, I have a title for my magic realist novel set on the night bus from George Square to Paisley Cross

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

oh it's only calum. fair enough. it's always a pleasure to have the great man here to cheer us up in times of trouble!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

some conspiracy theories are true. some 'truths' are true
some conspiracy theories are false. some 'truths' are false

we have to come to our theories about which ones are which.

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

yet again mark s feks up my post with a failed image grrr!

anyway, it's good to know it's only calum. always a pleasure to have the company of the great man to cheer us up in times of turbulence!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

phil you weren't aggressive at all, or trolling really

momus is an aesthetic imagineer -- his theories and insights are not intended to bear down on mere reality here and now

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

phil whatever you do don't tell your girlfriend about the bond girls! she's going to give you more than just verbal abuse.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Ahem, if I may change the subject, I find it very interesting that a certain Cherie Booth writes in today's Guardian warning that the government may try to use the current bomb wave to restrict civil liberties:

"Nowhere has the importance of independent judges policing a constitution of principle become clearer than in the context of the threat and reality of terrorism. I say this in the month that London experienced a series of bomb blasts, killing and maiming many innocent civilians. Nothing I say here makes light of these horrific acts of violence, or of the responsibility imposed on governments to keep the public safe, or of the dangerous task performed by the police and intelligence services. At the same time, it is all too easy to respond in a way that undermines commitment to our most deeply held values and convictions and cheapens our right to call ourselves a civilised nation.

[...]

"Sometimes democracy must fight with one hand tied behind its back. None the less, it has the upper hand. Preserving the rule of law and recognition of individual liberties constitutes an important component of its understanding of security. At the end of the day, this strengthens its spirit, and this strength allows it to overcome its difficulties."

Since Cherie Booth is none other than Tony Blair's wife, the big question today has to be not "What's going on at Euston?" but "What's going on in Tony Blair's bedroom?"

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

... or what's NOT going on

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

seems the coupley verbal abuse is spreading. perhaps it is MI5

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

tony and cherie: it's like 'mr and mrs smith'.

N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

i don't want to consider the aesthetics of tony and cherie shagging.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

... difficult times call for difficult measures

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

What's going on in Bungle's bedroom?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/cyfoes/wythnosofeddwl/images/tony-cherie.jpg

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Cherie Booth for PM, I say! (And no jokes about "it's just PMT", you wretched sexists.)

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

She should join Respect

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

momus is on the rag.

N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Momus is just on, period.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Has anybody here ever seen the secret and unbroadcast, x-rated version of Rainbow?


http://www.keenaschips.co.uk/index.php?page=articles/misc_rainbow


Phil Howe, Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

So it is Sir Ian Blair inside that Bungle suit after all

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

the bombers lived in a block of flats called BLAIR HOUSE. i think.

N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

I heard they were all lizards in suits.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

"Errrrrrrr, excuse me, madam, have you see any 12 foot lizards in the vicinity lately?"

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)


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