Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

PLOT OF THE CHRISTMAS SPECIAL - Boris is wanted by six different alien races because at the end of this series you catch him sneaking into the wreckage of Skaro to steal a miniature sonic exterminator holder once owned by Davros.

So tomorrow's ep is going to have to squeeze in five actors' names before the logo spins out of the vortex. And that's even assuming PC fringeface isn't getting ideas above her station.

Finally saw the trailer (whilst sitting next to a Dalek in the BBC lobby no less), I couldn't be more excited.

i'm sure it will be fun but there'd better be some sort of decent twist to what looks otherwise just like a Daleks Invade Earth Again rehash. i would also like to see Capn Jack exterminated so that he can pop back up again and the subsequent "what the?!" exclamations by Daleks.

Can we get odds on fishface or Ianto getting exterminated.

Wait the Torchwood cast is in this, too??????

What are the odds that Martha ends up in Torchwood btw?

I was streaming a bit of S3 the other day, and I think I was quite kind about Martha's acting at the time because of the fitness, but it really is atrocious.

I thought she was fine! (The acting was decent, too.)

Martha has already been in torchwood, on secondment from UNIT.

Jack and fish face have been seen in one of the trailers. Ianto is just speculation. (I am bucking for Owen to come back as a radioactive zombie ghost)

Yeah, I know she did a guest spot but considering they're down two team members (including their medic), I'm curious as to whether she'll become a full-time member.

this is kinda SPOILERY but interesting:

How difficult was it to perfect the voice of the deranged Dalek Caan?
Briggs: "Well, it was a great challenge, a bit like when we did the Dalek Emperor in the first series. When Russell [T Davies] introduces a character like that, there is a whole chunk of stuff in the script that describes the voice. He did the same for Dalek Caan, which gave me a real key into what I could do. Then I evolved all these different theories about Dalek Caan's neurons firing in the wrong direction in his brain. He can't tell when he's happy or sad, his emphasis is very strange and he finds things funny when things aren't funny. He's a kind of soothsayer really. His mind is almost pure."

Ianto's in the trailers for the next Doctor Who, there's a clip of Gwen shushing him and then the two of them firing machine guns at something that's trying to enter the Hub. I don't know if it's spoilery to say what they're shooting at, but it's pretty clear from this trailer what it is.

Also, if you slow down that trailer, you'll notice at one point they show the return of a certain S1 character that we haven't heard anything about in a while.

HAHAHA YES

Harriet Jones? Clocked her right away when the "next week" bit was on after Turn Left. Or is there someone else in that I missed?

Not reading thread for fear of spoilering but OMG OMG OMG OMG

OH MY GOD!

I'M SHAKING.

POSSIBLE SPOILER IF I'M RIGHT:

Dalek Caan called the Doctor the 'three-fold man', so Ireckonnextweekwe'll get New Doctor, Tennant and Ecclestone.

If they regenerate Tennant, well done for keeping that one quiet, but have nagging feeling of big reset button being hit at the start of the next one. Still OMG OMG OMG.

I think they're gonna cheat on the regeneration somehow but I'm not reading that possible spoiler chap just posted so who knows?

Nice touch with the Mr Copper Foundation (the dude that the Doctor gave the million pound credit card to in Voyage of the Damned).

Hey, well remembered. Good nerding!

http://www.moviesforguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/startrek2khan.jpg

CAAAAAN!!!!

Davros was good.

That's the first time the Daleks have felt scary since I was a kid, maybe. They aren't fucking around. Awful lot of plot to sort out in the final episode, dear god don't let it end on a clifffhanger please this is not America.

I occasionally have a dream where there are huge planets hanging in the night sky just like tonight's ep, weirdly. Wonder if Russell T has had the same dream?

Did I imagine the "sound of drums" rhythm turning up at one point?

No, it played over the TV or over the subwave. Kids are all hmmmmmmm. Our Hannah has a theory that the Doctor might somehow regenerate into the Master.

eh.

what if he degenerated to become ecclestone again

I've heard the The Master theory before (well, John Simm anyway), the logic being that the Master stole the Dr's next regeneration from the Tardis so that's what he'll look like the next time he changes.

Silly question maybe, but isn't Tennant supposed to be in the christmas episode?

Aye, but Ecclescake was meant to be in his Christmas episode, but Tennant turned up at the end of the series and blindsided everyone. Will be v. impressed if they pull this off again.

Will be mad cross if that UNIT gizmo that Martha has is the great big reset button.

there was SO MUCH STUFF in there though! I might be posting random gibberings for days.

yes, but it was forty minutes about people trying to get signal

the entire next series will consist of rose tyler waiting for a text message report and making sad faces

This episode built up a point about the Doctor (Tennant) saving Davros's life. It seems pretty clear to me, therefore, that the intention is to have Tennant's Doctor do a proper face-off against Davros. If the narrative is in any way satisfying, this has to be seen through.

That's why I think the regeneration will fail, anyway. Hmm. I dunno.

BUT GOD WHAT AN EPISODE.

Was just in the pub chatting about who would be good for the next Doctor, and the name me and my mate agreed on was Chiwetel Eijofor.

Again: BEST CLIFFHANGER EVER.

Oh the reset button fear. And the problem is, we already know what the reset button will be (there is still something on Donna's back after all). Which allows us to have a regeneration fun episode without that actor actually committing beyond one episode (if that even happens).

At least Harriet Jones went out almost in style (bitchy Daleks with the "we know". The hand is still in the Tardis too - I have a theory about that. But basically if Torchwood and Sarah Jane are about to be killed, it will be a weak explaination to stop that happening (and both spin off series are continuing).

Didn't Mr Smith turn evil in the last episode of the Sarah Jane Adventures?

there is still something on Donna's back after all

Bah, didn't think of that.

Much as I love Tennant, I'm stoked for a regen and hope they go through with it.

Dalek Caan mentions something about "the threefold doctor" coming. DT+CE+new bloke?

Oh and Osterhagen = anagram of "Earth's gone"

terrible, worse than when i gave up on this show 2 years ago, i can't believe people get excited over this crap

valuable input, DG.

It was pretty great tonight, though once again I'm left with the question: "why don't I just downl@0ad it after the finale".

Fun ep. I enjoyed the multiple people running around, cutting back & forth bits, as well as Judoon popping up and actually showing "the Shadow Proclamation" and "The Meduse Cascade" onscreen.

I do wonder if the recent news that "Tennant might still be interested" as well as how he's going to be in next year's specials is nothing but a headfake.

Still waiting for a good latter-day multi-doctor story; bring on McGann & Ecclestone & Richard E. Grant for no good reason.

Also wondering if the jerk-offs who run the Sci-Fi Channel will get wise enough to realize that they can head off a lot of immediate downloading as well as boosting rating(somewhat, if nothing else), just by showing the latest ep the same night as its original transmission, not this two week delay bullshit.

Oh and did anyone else get serious BSG-Hybrid-type vibes off of the mad Dalek Caan?

sorry i interrupted the cuddle-fest gukbe :(

I think the point is more if your going to do a challops explain it in a bit of detail, don't just drop a quick moan bomb.

(I've done it myself so I'm not criticising)