― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link
Nope. I said "whinging", not "whining".
http://infosecuritymag.techtarget.com/2003/jan/curmudgeon.shtml
(also I don't know if "QUIT BLOODY WHINGING" goes down a treat with other people when you are helping them but it seems kind of obvious to me that it's a surefire way to get Tom to type a million variations of "EAT MY ENTIRE SMELLY ASS WITH CHOPSTICKS" in humorous caps)
What can I say? I'm more than a little burnt out after 6 years of DAW-related Apple support, and I jumped at the chance to say something that my old job essentially forbade me to do.
My point is that while I can totally sympathize with Tombot's hardware issues, it strikes me as utterly petty & churlish to bitch about Dashboard and iLife when it's easy enough to get rid of both of 'em. They strike me as the absolute least of Tombot's worries, or they oughta be.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link
It's W-H-I-N-I-N-G.
― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link
However, "whinging" is spelled w-h-i-N-G-i-n-g, as in "Wow, Mr. Que sure is doing an awful lot of whinging about the correct spelling of the word "whining".
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Granted, that's more of a worst-case scenario, like "Well, if you're THAT desperate..."Dashboard is simple enough to delete - just drag the icon out of your dock, and trash any existing widgets on your Mac HD - without reformatting anything. I'm guessing one could simply delete the iApps (along with their preferences), but I'd be worried about not getting rid of them completely.
The issue is that Apple gives us flare (Dashboard mostly, I suppose there are people who use iLife) rather than fixing things that screw up.
I know plenty of people who use iLife. Personally, I would have jumped for joy had something like Garageband existed a decade ago (and by that, I mean a COMPLETELY self-contained, entry-level MIDI & audio sequencer that needs only the simplest of external peripherals to work).
And I agree with you about Dashboard - I think it's a useless distraction. Trust me, you don't have to tell me about "flare". I was an OS 9 holdout until last year!!! My first reaction to OS X was "that's too... pretty". But the interface grew on me over time, and what ultimately won me over was its multi-tasking abililties, and this is what gets me when people rant about OS X: Does anyone really miss not being able to have more than two apps open at the same time, or having to remember which user set of extensions was active? I certainly don't.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
(btw. I don't get Mr Que's whinge/whine thing. They are different words. Dogs don't whinge, for example. Am I missing some joke?)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link
Wha'? I (have to) use OS 9 at work and usually have about five apps open at once. Not that I'm sticking up for OS 9. It's rubbish.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
My experiences with OS 9 were primarily music-related, and I found that if I was running Logic Audio and Pro Tools LE, then even booting a relatively "small" app like Roxio Toast was just asking for a freezeup. Pretty much everyone I knew who made music with OS 9 had similar problems.
As far as the whole whinging vs. whining thing goes, they are clearly different words to me, too. Don't know what Mr. Que was driving at there.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Hell, I even use Pages when I have a Word file to convert. Otherwise, it's BBEdit for writing or InDesign when I need to process words.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Oops.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1046comboforppc.html
A "rollback" option would be sweet, wouldn't it?
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link
alba, tiger has "spotlight" which is still a little too slow but is cool cos it indexes like everything on your hard drive including mail, address book, the contents of word docs, etc - i like it a lot
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link
God damn it, you're right.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link
can "time machine" do that??
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm guilty of iPhoto use, mostly to batch unload photos before uploading to flickr. iTunes as well, although the rest of the iLife stuff I barely touch. I have no idea what people have against Dashboard though, I've only ever had one widget that ate memory and even know a few people who use konfabulator on their pcs for a similar deal...
Conflating Spotlight and Quicksilver is kind of dumb when you're talking about a full-filesystem search versus whatever you have Quicksilver set to index. QS works great if I know what I'm running, Spotlight is nice if I'm just searching for a file.
― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Faulty RAM stick finally replaced, I have eschewed Mail, Dashboard, and a host of other worthless garbage from my Applications folder and used Spotlight (ahoy!) to find and destroy their families. Now to download this Cog business, and Transmission, and Fugu all over again, and get to business.
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link
(When ILX goes away, won't you miss me doing annoying shit like this the most?)
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link
I put a shortcut to my Applications folder in my dock, then rightclick on it to get access to them all. But yeah, Spotlight's OK.
Anyway, I've gone back to 10.4.0 and all is dandy. Snappy, even. I've got Azureus running in the background and I'd not even noticed. I'll see how it goes and if some app needs a later version and I'm feeling reckless I'll try out the 10.4.6 combo update.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/Tips/images/startmenu.gif
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai "jon williams" Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Tom how did they know what he was singing?
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 August 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 10 August 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 August 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Monday, 4 September 2006 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link
also - what's a good (free) rss reader for the mac?
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link