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well what are they cold*? i honestly cannae mind (see ahm'ur scoatish)

― Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Regions, supposedly.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

regions is a bit of an ugly word. you'd think there'd be something nice and old and scottish, with a big "chhhhhhhh" sound in it.

― Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

My co-worker just informed me that Glasgow is gritty. Perhaps it is everything I was looking for in Manchester/Bradford/Leeds? I think I would like to try it.

I've now got Common People on my internal jukebox.

It is gritty, but it's also windy and the grit gets in your eye.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think it's especially windy. Well, it was yesterday, OK.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

what does gritty mean in that context? working class? dangerous? what?

well the west end of Glasgow's about as gentrified as it could be, but if you want proper glasgow grit, go to easterhouse or yoker or possil. but you wouldn't want to go there. really.

― Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

It was windy first thing this morning - I can only see concrete out of the window so it is hard to judge current windyness.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Onimo should be grateful - the windiness outside his building stops the prostitutes hanging around the front door and moves them to the alleyway instead.

Oor Wullie x-post upthread: Wullie and The Broons are both from Dundee. I remember a particular Wullie story where an uncle of his that had a car (which is, to this day, still a pretty big deal in Oor Wullie and The Broons) and took him to Edinburgh and Glasgow in the same day. Nobody at home believed it was physically possible until his postcards from both turned up. Therefore city remote from both Edinburgh and Glasgow but has lots of tenements = Dundee. (But you still don't want to go there Mary)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I say his like 'hiss'.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

How do you say 'pus'?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

puzz.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

You really should see a doctor, seriously. Open pussy wounds are not to be sniffed at.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose gritty meant abandoned warehouses, windswept streets, the faint smell of garbage wafting through the air (?) Is that totally wide of the mark? I'm not sure we will have time to try it between Manchester and returning to London, maybe we will try Sheffield instead...But someday, soon...

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

it's hard for me to tell cause i've been here so long, but I think glasgow stinks. if you want gritty I think you should go to the depressed towns around glasgow. Alexandria (how many disappointed egyptologists!) or Cumnock. maybe even West Lothian. Addiewell...

― Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

If you want a stink of rotting refuse, I recommend the section of Sauchiehall St., west of Charing Cross, early on a Sunday morning.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, east of Charing X, I meant.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread is called try Glasgow MORE - you aren't helping...

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

It's horses for courses.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

hey! he's just helping someone who was after the stinking, economic blackspot aspect of glasgow.

― Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank you, Nick, your suggestions are, as always, duly noted.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll let you know if there's another binmen's strike.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The weird thing about the UK is there aren't big abandoned sections of city. There are huge abandoned sections of countryside but that's different I guess.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I think maybe there were more abandoned sections of cities a decade or so ago, but pressure on property has made it too valuable to leave abandoned.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

If you want a stink of rotting refuse, I recommend the section of Sauchiehall St., west of Charing Cross, early on a Sunday morning.

Are you referring to Cook's dirty linen again?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Sadly, I think the stale beer, rotting carry outs and piss trump even Cook for stench.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

he won't be on holiday for ever, you know.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

"abandoned warehouses"
go to the legendary warehouse in shef. there is a brass foundry next door which starts up at 6am and makes the floor bounce rhythmically. allen st.

"UK is there aren't big abandoned sections of city"
again, sheffield proves this fairly, if not very wrong. mazes of dead factories and warehouses, also cf. those whole rds of abandoned terraces in liverpool, newcastle etc.

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I was going to say, last time I was in Liverpool they still seemed to be very much in evidence, but that was like, ten years ago, so I thought things might have changed. Never been to Newcastle.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Sheffield actually exists?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

yes. it has a weird new-ish musical arts centre kind of thing, at which i got ill from too much bombay hotmix.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

what is happening tonight, glasgow?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry about tonight (I guess I am unrealiable, cathy :/ ). my leg is all dressed & clean now, though.

good news, too: I found a job I actually like (via a v.v. kind friend)!

I'm definitely still up fr sons & daughters (or whoever it is that plays on saturday) and siciliano.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

ugh. my plans to keep trying glasgow and go 2 the oxfam benefit failed by me going for a nap and waking up 7 hours later. now i'm miserable, nocturnal and bored. internet scrabble til 6 in the morning?

― Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I found a tap to get some juice out of your booty, Cozen. It was next to the corn holders at the mall.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 20 May 2004 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure... what you mean.

siciliano: 7pm?!

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 23 May 2004 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it? I guess it's a theatre. Are you going or not?

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 23 May 2004 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I am going. provided it hasn't sold out.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 23 May 2004 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Go see Multplies and Sons and Daughters.

never seen ot heard Multiplies, but i can vouch for Sons & Daughters. Saw them supporting Franz Ferdinand and they were great.

(wonder if they took their name from the Ozzie soap of yore?)

― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 23 May 2004 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I got my ticket in advance.

Sons & Daughters were great again last night, but they cheekily claimed that it was their first headlining gig. What about the Winchester Club a year ago, you rotters?

Pro Forma were pretty good too.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 23 May 2004 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I tried to go to the S&D &c. gig but foolishly hadn't bought my ticket in advance. So I just hung about in Nice and Sleazy's (incidentally: why is it so unacceptable to call it Nice and Sleazy in my head? why do i need to pluralise/use the saxon generative when speaking of it?) and pretended I was a scenester. Then my night went downhill due to a lack of momentum.

― Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I just went outside for a cigarette. There was an amazing pink cloud in the sky, perfect against the blue. Tom Recchion's Gentlewomanly Grace randomly came on my iPod. It was a beautiful moment. I love Glasgow.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 24 May 2004 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw that one.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 24 May 2004 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes! (or stop insulting me every time I go away).

(I take a piece of you, with me).

― Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 24 May 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick, you shouldn't smoke. What are 'Glasgow kisses'?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 24 May 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

a Glasgow kiss is a headbutt.

― Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Monday, 24 May 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I know, Mary.

I bumped into Carey and Tracy on the way home from Sleazy's on Saturday and went to the art school with them. The art school was a bit rubbish but it was a nice thing to have happened.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 24 May 2004 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

My hot water has gone again.

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Somebody is coming to fix it...

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

...NEXT TUESDAY. If Renfrew Street doesn't object, I might come and stay.

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, my credit card, which I've had for just over a month, has already been frauded for £400.

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

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