2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

wow @ Obama's Juggernaut of Hope.

StanM's jpg OTM OTM OTM that is some messed up shit

http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9872969-38.html

Olbermann 4 president

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/77138/

Hillary may win popular vote in Texas but lose in the delegate count.

lol at olbermann so pissed off he's ACTUALLY STUTTERING AND SPITTING.

btw -- No one should be surprised that Hillary thinks it's a dandy idea to prevent any legal action against the telecoms that illegally, irresponsibly, and damn near gleefully agreed to let the government monitor all of your phone calls and internet activity. Yeah, what frivolous lawsuits those would be. :(

Olbermann's been getting more and more muckrake-y over the last year. It's been fun to watch.

Yeah. He funny.

What does the suspiciously weasel-sounding phrase "failed to oppose" mean? Did they vote against it or not vote or what?

clinton didnt vote

News to noone at this point, I imagine, but Obama takes the lead in Tx.

Now, mind you, this may be an outlier poll, as two others out today show HRC ahead (and way ahead in one of them). But maybe the trend lines in Tx will favor Obama. The funny delegate-assignment system seems certain to favor him. And this possibly outlier poll is a headline in Drudge, which -- as we all know -- often dictates how the press covers a story.

Clinton leads Obama among Latino voters 44% to 42%.

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I am reading that correctly, right? That Obama's support among Latino voters is within 2% of Clinton's?

obama's gonna hulk smash on mar 4

Mitt Romney: Illegal Immigrant

?!?

In delegates in Tx., it looks that way. In the popular vote in Ohio and Tx., I'm less sure. Either way, the nomination appears to be his to lose.

Hillary Rodham Clinton showcased her Hispanic support Friday, releasing an impressive list of 105 supporters from the Rio Grande Valley.

the valley reaaaaaaaaaaally loves clinton. dammit.

ok, i haven't read that story, but that's hilarious. See, it's not the number that's impressive, because it's quite pathetic, but look! Oscar de la Hoya... Carlos Santana... Jimmy Smits... impressive!

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"SEIU has made its formal endorsement for Obama."

My people! Custodians unite!

Skot you must be a delegate to the convention.

"scott seward casts his vote for...enthroned"

lol

Enthroned/Ulver '08

Ok, gotta come clean, I did not do my research re: Hillary and FISA. This is from Jan 28:

Today, I will vote against Republican efforts to shortchange the debate on the FISA Amendments Act, important legislation that would modernize our surveillance laws and give our nation's intelligence professionals the tools they need to fight terrorism and make our country more secure. Rather than allow the Senate the opportunity to consider important amendments to this vital legislation, Republicans are instead blocking meaningful debate on this bill by playing procedural games, choosing instead to score cheap political points at the expense of our Homeland Security.

This legislation deserves a thorough debate. Several provisions - including those which would have a profound impact on the civil liberties of Americans - need to be the subject of careful deliberation. For example, the bill under consideration gives telecommunication companies blanket retroactive immunity for their alleged cooperation in the administration's warrantless wiretapping program. I continue to believe that a grant of retroactive immunity is wrong, and I have cosponsored Senator Dodd's amendment to remove that provision from the bill. The Bush Administration has blatantly disregarded Americans' civil liberties over the past seven years, and I simply will not trust them to protect Americans' privacy rights. With the temporary Protect America Act set to expire on February 1st, I strongly believe that we need to pass balanced legislation that protects our civil liberties and the rule of law while giving our law enforcement and intelligence agencies the tools they need to protect our country.

Yeah, ok, pretty otm.

And she didn't vote, presumably, because her schedule's a little tight right now.

or because she didn't want her vote on the record.

Oh of course. Obama found the time somehow. But the last few sentences there are well put.

I have reason to be especially suspicious of a Clinton when it comes to privacy, new media, copyright, any law that thinks ahead more than three years.

hoos it's a small point but "muckraking" requires original reporting, which olberman does't do any of as far as i know

yeah, it's just angry punditry, and ordinarily i'd yawn, except a) he's not altogether wrong, and b) holy shit I want to be tuned in the night his carotid artery explodes.

Yea, I seem to remember the EFF having issues with Bill

Oh hell yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA

shaking of fist.

more voting irregularities

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16vote.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Black voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem’s 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a single vote in the district was cast for Senator Barack Obama.
That anomaly was not unique. In fact, a review by The New York Times of the unofficial results reported on primary night found about 80 election districts among the city’s 6,106 where Mr. Obama supposedly did not receive even one vote, including cases where he ran a respectable race in a nearby district.

...

In the Harlem district, for instance, where the primary night returns suggested a 141 to 0 sweep by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, the vote now stands at 261 to 136. In an even more heavily black district in Brooklyn — where the vote on primary night was recorded as 118 to 0 for Mrs. Clinton — she now barely leads, 118 to 116.

upshot being, Obama will pick up a few more NY delegates

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2008/02/hillary_wheel.php

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/16/bill-clinton-obamas-ignoring-my-white-house-legacy/

bill cant stfu

The goddamn Screaming Lobster of Hope is in Amarillo, Texas, giving the best stump speech I've seen of his all year: casual yet precise, passionate but restrained.

Firm, yet yielding to the touch?

Minimalist yet expansive

hot but cold.

Rubbery, squeaky, yet yielding. Receptive. Lubricated.

pink, small, punctual.

corpse-clit

Moderator, lock brain.

hoos it's a small point but "muckraking" requires original reporting, which olberman does't do any of as far as i know

-- Tracer Hand, Saturday, 16 February 2008 14:49

point taken

i'm really beginning to <3 mark penn

“Winning Democratic primaries is not a qualification or a sign of who can win the general election. If it were, every nominee would win because every nominee wins Democratic primaries.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8551.html

Nice logic there Penny.

the down time between primaries allows too much room for stupidity.

i'm enjoying the drama, but once there are actual nominees i want to please be placed in suspended animation until election day. my brain cells are dying just thinking about the stupidness of the general election.

Among a crowd of hip and stylish Democrats, announcing one's skepticism about the cool kid would totally dampen the party.

how do you write a sentence like that without immediately gouging out your own eyes in abject wretched shame?