What states do you consider to be part of the Midwest?

gbx no joke x-country skiing is ultrarad

ST PAUL CURLING CLUB

wait only if they serve booze or let us bring it with us

Q: are you familiar with the term 'loppet'?
A: you are from the midwest

i know! i tried it for the first time last winter, and was like wait i used to think this was boring but secretly it's way fun and easy to do here

xp curling club!!!!

wait what the hell is a loppet

EVAN HOW HAVE YOU NOT XCOUNTRY SKIIED??

It's incredibly hard work but I predict u will like it.

xxxp

a loppet is a XC ski race!

My otherwise quite conservative family believes in global warming because you used to be able to reliably cross-country ski throughout most of the winter (thank u, lake effect snowfall!) and then suddenly you really couldn't anymore.

i used to xcountry ski, maybe if i quit smoking i will join u

there is one that starts RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE every winter, it's crazy

xp i have heard whispers of this lake snowfall effect, particularly as it pertains to ski areas further up the mitten, but have never investigated because fuck it's just as far to colorado

The ski areas all suck FYI. I have been to all of them, although not in okay like 15 years. But they're not mountains.

Um however many times they may use the word "mountain" in their literature and/or trademarked signage.

Although they're not gettin any lake effect, cos they too far inland anyway.

haaa i was getting bummed abt winter but now im excited abt winter sports i wont have the time or money to play

apparently there is a top-secret one i read about in powder magazine over ten years ago that is waaaaay up on the tip that just gets hammered w/snow, and has like A lift. ticket office is a card table in the parking lot or something

i need to hit my uncle up for hand-me-down XC ski stuff.

he owns a groomer

xp Oh yeah okay that might work.

it is Mount Bohemia!

...aaaaand it's in the UP, nm

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discus

Technically true but it's not lived that way

I think the way Ohio is divvied up is pretty accurate.

Yeah but there are problems like this: most of the "Great Lakes Region" is really in the Midwest, but Western NY State is not Midwestern and so can't be in that subset. And it's silly to pretend that the GLR isn't mostly influenced by being surrounded by the Midwest, that is what it primarily IS.

northern and southern coastal california have a lot more in common than say, north carolina and central texas.

Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit have more in common with each other than they do with St. Louis, twin cities, Milwaukee. Maybe it needs an E. Great Lakes v. W. Great Lakes.

Exactly. Really, MI should be split down the middle with the UP going to the Western GLR and everything Detroit/Ann Arbor/Lansing-related going to the East.

"Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit have more in common with each other than they do with St. Louis, twin cities, Milwaukee."

I think I would put Milwaukee with Detroit and Buffalo. They have a ton in common, the inhabitants of all three even talk exactly the same.

Milwaukee, though (and to an extent even Chicago), just feel so much more midwestern to me, what with being perched out there on the edge of the prairie and all.

feels pretty great lakes to me, actually. no grain silos here, just factories and werehouses.

The only problem with turning into a Craftsman Bungalow during a full moon is rearranging all the built-ins afterward.

feels pretty great lakes to me, actually. no grain silos here, just factories and werehouses.

― iiiijjjj, Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:52 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Totally, Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo. They all have the same feel to me, I've had to good fortune to have spent a lot of time in all of them. Milwaukee is much more like Buffalo than it is like DesMoines or Omaha, trust me.

lol bootheel

http://www.commoncensus.org/maps/nfl_1280.gif

bit annoying that the squares for the cities are placed arbitrarily on the map instead of correct location but the influence shading is whats interesting of course

Iowans are a divided bunch when it comes to NFL! (as are Angelenos)

weird how coastal carolina is all skins fans. what a waste of their own perfectly awful franchise.

If you think that's bad, you should see our baseball allegiances.

(It's mostly love the Cubs and hate the Cards, or vice versa.)

I used to live in Iowa: Bears, Chiefs, Vikings, Packers Country. No Rams, of course.

Actually there may be rams fans there now, post-Warner. I lived there pre-Warner.

here is one for baseball

http://www.commoncensus.org/maps/mlb_1280.gif

it actually has you a lot less divided w cubs being predominant

The Midwest is less a region and more a state of mind.

We of the midwest are more characterized by our differences than what we have in common. Because of this natural tendancy to try and find commonality in a seemingly arbitrarily assigned group, we thus ask eachother and often disagree on what exactly constitutes "The Midwest" in the first place. Anyone from our neck of the woods can tell you at least one diffence between two given states, but as we geographically narrow down, that same person may be able to give a dozen differences between one county and the next, and a veritable littany differences between one town and another not 7 seven miles away.

don't know where else to put this

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what's with all these hippy state names

tribute to steve shasta imo

i hope 'firelands' is a tribute to the flaming cuyahoga

"King" as in Creole, not MLK I'm guessing

This has probably been argued to death upthread, but as someone who grew up in SE Ohio, I have to say that part of OH is NOT midwestern. Appalachian all the way. And KY is Southern, don't be crazy ppl.

Love that Chicago is in the state of Gary.

actually i think chicago is its own thing, just surrounded by gary

The Firelands refers to an area of Ohio where people from Connecticut were resettled after their towns were burned by the British during the Revolutionary War.