What states do you consider to be part of the Midwest?

q: are there cabins, and do people wear flannel and think about canoes and axes?

a: yes, you are in the north woods

avg low temp is below freezing in Tulsa in Dec, Jan, and Feb.

GD i think i am just being thick but i dont actually understand your question

i would say OK is a Western state

Q: Are there cottages and deer, and do people wear flannel and think about ice fishing?

A: Yes, you are in West Michigan.

think maybe he meant east instead of west

ok that would help a lot

u are all forgetting to factor in annual precipitation rates

gabbenb jr^^^

jj, is eastern MN comparable to the part of Wisconsin west of and north of Madison? hilly, liberal, etc.

do people ride in conestoga wagons? yes? you are in the western states.

also, not surprisingly, MN stops being similar to WI right about the point where the two states pull apart around L. Superior.

feel like the mn temperament is heavily underwritten by the fact that up north exists, and is cutting down a tree or mining something or portaging a canoe ~as we speak

while the middle band of MN/WI is small towns w/lakes that siphon their children to mpls/madison for university

GD i think that maybe answers your question?

MN = that part of WI + flat farmy NW and south + blonde giants from the north living in the woods and playing hockey

god you guys i am seriously excited about hockey this year for some reason

NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN

xps

gabbenb jr^^^

i do have a lot of fascinating opinions on places i havent been

speaking of: the only states in the midwest are kansas, north dakota, iowa and florida (for demographic if not geographic ones). also the canadian provinces of alberta and manitoba

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix6/9RegionsOfNorthAmerica.GIF

like am considering buying tickets to basically most gopher home games, if i can

Q: are you seriously excited about hockey this year for some reason

A: you're in the Midwest

I haven't read the thread so probably this has been said, but, having lived in both Indiana and Kansas (among a bunch of other places) I'd consider Indiana regionally different from Kansas...Indiana is ICP country whereas KS is way more western-feeling...more like Texas (where I also lived for a number of years) than like Illinois (where I also lived for a number of years; fuck I've lived a lot of (both shitty and cool) places).

Empty Quarter

i've only recently embraced my MNan-ness, and have decided to just let it flow through me

i will go ice-fishing this year

i will learn to cross-country ski

gbx no joke x-country skiing is ultrarad

ST PAUL CURLING CLUB

wait only if they serve booze or let us bring it with us

Q: are you familiar with the term 'loppet'?
A: you are from the midwest

i know! i tried it for the first time last winter, and was like wait i used to think this was boring but secretly it's way fun and easy to do here

xp curling club!!!!

wait what the hell is a loppet

EVAN HOW HAVE YOU NOT XCOUNTRY SKIIED??

It's incredibly hard work but I predict u will like it.

xxxp

a loppet is a XC ski race!

My otherwise quite conservative family believes in global warming because you used to be able to reliably cross-country ski throughout most of the winter (thank u, lake effect snowfall!) and then suddenly you really couldn't anymore.

i used to xcountry ski, maybe if i quit smoking i will join u

there is one that starts RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE every winter, it's crazy

xp i have heard whispers of this lake snowfall effect, particularly as it pertains to ski areas further up the mitten, but have never investigated because fuck it's just as far to colorado

The ski areas all suck FYI. I have been to all of them, although not in okay like 15 years. But they're not mountains.

Um however many times they may use the word "mountain" in their literature and/or trademarked signage.

Although they're not gettin any lake effect, cos they too far inland anyway.

haaa i was getting bummed abt winter but now im excited abt winter sports i wont have the time or money to play

apparently there is a top-secret one i read about in powder magazine over ten years ago that is waaaaay up on the tip that just gets hammered w/snow, and has like A lift. ticket office is a card table in the parking lot or something

i need to hit my uncle up for hand-me-down XC ski stuff.

he owns a groomer

xp Oh yeah okay that might work.

it is Mount Bohemia!

...aaaaand it's in the UP, nm

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr211/elikos91/usa3-1.jpg

discus

Technically true but it's not lived that way

I think the way Ohio is divvied up is pretty accurate.

Yeah but there are problems like this: most of the "Great Lakes Region" is really in the Midwest, but Western NY State is not Midwestern and so can't be in that subset. And it's silly to pretend that the GLR isn't mostly influenced by being surrounded by the Midwest, that is what it primarily IS.

northern and southern coastal california have a lot more in common than say, north carolina and central texas.

Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit have more in common with each other than they do with St. Louis, twin cities, Milwaukee. Maybe it needs an E. Great Lakes v. W. Great Lakes.

Exactly. Really, MI should be split down the middle with the UP going to the Western GLR and everything Detroit/Ann Arbor/Lansing-related going to the East.