What states do you consider to be part of the Midwest?

lol iiiijjjj u r a gis stan

that map's treatment of Michigan as contiguous creates a weird error

I guess NY, too. Part of NY is really, really close to Ohio

more slave than stan, but yeah

I srsly think of western PA as being midwest.

― quincie, Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:00 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

madness

you could maybe make a case for erie, i guess. but yeah, pittsburgh is v. hilly and its accent is not midwestern

maybe it's different in upper st. clair tho

OH SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

mookie throwing down. also, check it out guys, #2 gis result, the zinesters agree with me

http://api.ning.com/files/IlN0UevPKmaGg*x8ULBu6VC4IyGWkDu3gW8Zyklx5rFXRZO47GrVVLykuG2kmKKq9FsOiFv5*78qiz2TKyZwPFgRbtQavwfX/midwest_map.jpg

ks, mo, ky and wv are border states

southern IL has more in common with Kentucky than it does the rest of IL, most def
do not know wtf nabisco is talking about w/r/t Iowa not being the center in any way. When I think of the Midwest I think of flat, nearly-featureless endless prairie, farms/dairy farms/cornfields, fat white people, conservative culture-wise, bland food, esteeming small town life over city life. That just screams "Iowa" to me.

the funny thing about putting the Dakotas in or out is ... well, no one much lives there, and those that do are all over on the east side toward the core midwest, so whether or not the states as a whole count is really just like asking whether the midwest's property line includes those little bumpy bits out back or not

xpost - haha I am telling you, if you wanna continue the house analogy Iowa is like the guest room nobody goes into; it makes such a poor heart

but w/r/t the rest of the country, the Midwest IS the guest room no one goes into!

there's no one right or wrong answer w/r/t the center of the Midwest, but i think lots of people would pick Iowa or certainly wouldn't be surprised if Iowa was considered the center

ohio is the heart of it all

summit county reprezent
http://www.pl8ster.net/OH/OH99_ABF2430.jpg

past Summit = Appalachia

endless prairie, farms/dairy farms/cornfields, fat white people, conservative culture-wise, bland food, esteeming small town life over city life

MN is totes the midwest but fails about half of your checklist

it should say the home of lebron xp

in the same font

ten years later it probably does

Pittsburgh *feels* more midwest than NE, mookie. WTF how did you get into dook being from the 'Burgh, anyway?

which half does it fail?
xp

gonna admit that this thread is making me a little homesick for the home of lebron

note: I haven't been to the Northwoods areas of WI and MN. That's Midwestern culturally and geographically but not typical of Midweatern ecology, imfo.

i think we can all agree that minneapolis is the cultural capitol of the midwest, surely

(discounting chicago because it is a thing unto itself)

xp granny but you're also missing michigan!

endless prairie - fail
farms/dairy farms/cornfields - pass
fat white people - well we have our share
conservative culture-wise - more so recently, but def a fail
bland food - prob in general
esteeming small town life over city life - more fail than pass, but sure, it exists

what about st olaf?

Patron Saint of the Midwest

http://6.media.tumblr.com/RDIzdsEnW5rdkj5czyfUoinn_500.jpg

endless prairie, farms/dairy farms/cornfields, fat white people, conservative culture-wise, bland food, esteeming small town life over city life

^^ haha I almost hope this starts a Front Range argument about whether most of Colorado lives in the midwest!

sounds like you're judging MN on Minneapolis area? Tons of prairie, conservative small towns in parts I've seen. Which parts are you thinking of? I think the southern half fits my checklist.

xp I wouldn't be opposed to lumping eastern CO in with the Midwest.

i almost brought up eastern colorado, but that seemed like pushing it

it's not really "half," though, is the thing.

esteeming small town life over city life - more fail than pass, but sure, it exists

kinda funny since our most famous esteemer has nice homes on crocus hill and uh the upper west side.

although, actually, what am i talking about: NW minnesota is farmy and conservative, isn't it

lol ques

Basically if I can imagine Footloose being filmed and set in a place, that place is in the Midwest.

if you wanna continue the house analogy Iowa is like the guest room nobody goes into; it makes such a poor heart

― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:38 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

i heard a great line about iowa, "it's a nice place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit there"

iowa:
whoa y'all are some bland fat corn eating motherfuckers
lmfao

ha, that sounds about right to me (xp). i grew up having a lol view of iowa as v v fat and white, but secretly the countryside in the eastern part of the state is super pretty

fwiw the Rockies can be seen when Chris Penn is on the plow. Ergo, Eastern CO counts.

I guess one way the populous bits of Colorado skirt by that definition is that they are also blessed with various sizes of chicano people and less-bland food (though this is increasingly true of a lot of the core midwest, too)

I have tried to introduce this term on ILX before without much success, but: "Front Range." Then Great Plains. Then Great Lakes. "Midwest" some imprecise context-based nexus of the latter two.

xpost Footloose was set in OKLAHOMA and filmed in UTAH

whether most of Colorado lives in the midwest!
Isn't Colorado the thinnest state in the union? (size of people, not size of state)

Colorado has too many mountains to be Midwest. Sure, you've got that hour just after you've left Kansas before you get to Colorado Springs and it's all grassy and stuff but. . no.

i like that scheme, nabs, but the Front Range (you mean eastern CO/WY/MT?) is too specifically Coloradoan.

Oklahoma is Midwest in my book.

no way.

i'm pretty comfortable actually with cutting nodak loose from the "midwest" and piling it in with eastern MT, most of Wyoming, and eastern CO as the High Plains or Cowboy Country

yeah granny, the SW and NW parts of minnesota kinda fit your list, but the eastern 2/3 def do not. iron range is far from a conservative flatland, for example, and has had a pretty radical political history for sure

actually ND is kind of the pinnacle of your checklist tbf

i have no concept of oklahoma

Oklahoma
endless prairie - PASS
farms/dairy farms/cornfields - PASS
fat white people - PASS, though meth use cuts into that number
conservative culture-wise - PASS
bland food - PASS
esteeming small town life over city life - PASS