What states do you consider to be part of the Midwest?

Jeff City is south of St Louis and feels Midwestern

I live in NYC and my in-laws are Midwestern ... hot combo

hot combo

another word for cassarole

lol

Well Que, the poster is a joke, because the little girl in the poster is wearing overalls and chewing on a piece of hay or something, so it pretty much reinforces uh some stereotypes all by itself.

i still like it

I live in NYC and my in-laws are Midwestern

Haha, my dad is from Brooklyn, and my mom was born in West Va. but grew up in NE Ohio. Definitely a hot combo.

there's no fade zone when it comes to geography. a state is either Midwestern or not. just like how Shasta thinks Springfield MO makes MO southern instead of Midwestern

Of course there's "fade zones" in geography! Maybe not so much when dealing with discreet variables like States, but certainly with continuous data like % of landuse devoted to farming corn, for example. After all, the first law of geography is that everything is related to everything else, but near things are more related than distant things. I don't think he's saying it makes Missouri southern, only that it makes Springfield more southern than, say, St. Louis. The use of states as the political jurisdiction for this survey is arbitrary anyway - we could use counties to be more accurate if we cared to.

xxxxxxpost

Isn't Jefferson City just west of St. Louis? I don't think it's much further south, if at all.

If travel down to the "boot heel" it feels WAY southern.

The same can be said about southern Illinois, tbh.

Also, I always thought states had to be west of the Mississippi to be considered "mid-west".

the midwest is wherever a shoneys is

f course there's "fade zones" in geography! Maybe not so much when dealing with discreet variables like States,

well, yeah, okay, when we start talking about landuse and stuff, sure. . .but this thread is about States

nm I just looked at a shoneys map wtvr

our state boundaries were drawn by slavers and plutocrats and paid for in blood anyway, fwiw

― cialis morissette (goole), Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:01 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

ok and I can't even load the cracker barrel site to see if that's viable

I think there might be cracker barrel's in arizona tho so that'll rule that out

per this map, kentucky is definitely part of the south and MO probably is too.
http://www.verysmallarray.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/070605_uswafflehouse.gif

that waffle house map is almost exactly like the shoneys map

^^^^from the files of noted Emeritus Geographer, Dr. W. House

was gonna say Bill Knapps restaurant but there used to one in FLA

yeah let's rely on a fucking waffle to teach us about geography

makes sense, if any non-Dixie state is to be inducted into the Waffle Confederacy, it might as well be the one that doesn't recognize Martin Luther King Jr. Day

http://www.superpoop.com/040209/how-far-away-is-ohio.jpg

lol iiiijjjj u r a gis stan

that map's treatment of Michigan as contiguous creates a weird error

I guess NY, too. Part of NY is really, really close to Ohio

more slave than stan, but yeah

I srsly think of western PA as being midwest.

― quincie, Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:00 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

madness

you could maybe make a case for erie, i guess. but yeah, pittsburgh is v. hilly and its accent is not midwestern

maybe it's different in upper st. clair tho

OH SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

mookie throwing down. also, check it out guys, #2 gis result, the zinesters agree with me

http://api.ning.com/files/IlN0UevPKmaGg*x8ULBu6VC4IyGWkDu3gW8Zyklx5rFXRZO47GrVVLykuG2kmKKq9FsOiFv5*78qiz2TKyZwPFgRbtQavwfX/midwest_map.jpg

ks, mo, ky and wv are border states

southern IL has more in common with Kentucky than it does the rest of IL, most def
do not know wtf nabisco is talking about w/r/t Iowa not being the center in any way. When I think of the Midwest I think of flat, nearly-featureless endless prairie, farms/dairy farms/cornfields, fat white people, conservative culture-wise, bland food, esteeming small town life over city life. That just screams "Iowa" to me.

the funny thing about putting the Dakotas in or out is ... well, no one much lives there, and those that do are all over on the east side toward the core midwest, so whether or not the states as a whole count is really just like asking whether the midwest's property line includes those little bumpy bits out back or not

xpost - haha I am telling you, if you wanna continue the house analogy Iowa is like the guest room nobody goes into; it makes such a poor heart

but w/r/t the rest of the country, the Midwest IS the guest room no one goes into!

there's no one right or wrong answer w/r/t the center of the Midwest, but i think lots of people would pick Iowa or certainly wouldn't be surprised if Iowa was considered the center

ohio is the heart of it all

summit county reprezent
http://www.pl8ster.net/OH/OH99_ABF2430.jpg

past Summit = Appalachia

endless prairie, farms/dairy farms/cornfields, fat white people, conservative culture-wise, bland food, esteeming small town life over city life

MN is totes the midwest but fails about half of your checklist

it should say the home of lebron xp

in the same font

ten years later it probably does

Pittsburgh *feels* more midwest than NE, mookie. WTF how did you get into dook being from the 'Burgh, anyway?

which half does it fail?
xp

gonna admit that this thread is making me a little homesick for the home of lebron

note: I haven't been to the Northwoods areas of WI and MN. That's Midwestern culturally and geographically but not typical of Midweatern ecology, imfo.

i think we can all agree that minneapolis is the cultural capitol of the midwest, surely

(discounting chicago because it is a thing unto itself)

xp granny but you're also missing michigan!

endless prairie - fail
farms/dairy farms/cornfields - pass
fat white people - well we have our share
conservative culture-wise - more so recently, but def a fail
bland food - prob in general
esteeming small town life over city life - more fail than pass, but sure, it exists

what about st olaf?

Patron Saint of the Midwest

http://6.media.tumblr.com/RDIzdsEnW5rdkj5czyfUoinn_500.jpg