I liked Drag me to Hell. Also liked Jennifer's Body actually. I think a lot of good recent US horror has been genre pastiche/comedy (I'd include Hostel ii). The French/Asian stuff is nice because it still does well playing the eeriness/bone-gristle straight. I've only seen the first 2 Saws but had to stop because why bother when there's stuff like Martyrs out there.
― xcixxorx, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:35 (sixteen years ago)
dead snow is pretty half-assed tbh
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:35 (sixteen years ago)
theres a foreign language film that is a great companion piece to Eden Lake that i can't remember the name of right now and it is killing me.
― Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)
Eden Lake is british, right? some great horror coming out of britain in the past few years, esp if you like a bit of comedy mixed with your gore
Yep, it's British. Not many laughs though.
― His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)
Just grabbed some new 80s movies to watch. Can anyone vouch for these?
Combat ShockDementedDon't Go In The HouseNight of the Demon
― let them eat cankles (jeff), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)
oh yeah wait, Ils (or Them) is the Eden Lake parallel. creeeeepy
― Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:38 (sixteen years ago)
haha yeah Eden Lake is def not chock full o' laughs
― Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)
really? how so? i would think it would be a quintessential movie theater movie!!
Because...
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― let them eat cankles (jeff), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)
*ruined
combat shock is fucked up. also pretty interesting and pretty good.
― access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)
thread title edit for the purposes of why not
― Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)
In light of the new title I will mention Wolf Creek again.
― His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)
yeah it looks totally cheeseball but I'm a huge shock waves fan so...
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)
speaking of which, the aussies have def had a horror boom this decade as well xpost
― Don Quishote (jjjusten), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:47 (sixteen years ago)
for aussie film fans i def recommend this hilarious doc:
http://www.smartartists.com.au/not-quite-hollywood/nqh-poster.jpg
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)
"The Descent" is still the scariest film of that time span. "Drag Me to Hell" was tons of fun, though essentially just a remake of "Night of the Demon." "Zombieland" was entertaining, but totally sloppy and lazy.
Aussie-wise, "Rogue" is an undervalued and very well made gem in the giant croc genre.
Just came across some Korean POV torture porn flick called "The Butcher," which from the look of it may be the most unpleasant movie ever made.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
WC is the only Aussie horror I've seen that I can recall. Recommendations?
xxpost
― His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
xp to jeffI saw 'Don't Go In The House' last October. It has a nice gritty grindhouse vibe along w/ a Norman Bates type guy who uses a flamethrower instead of a knife.
― xcixxorx, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
Any good Japanese stuff from this period?
― His skin is eroding. His suckers have divots. (chap), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:50 (sixteen years ago)
It's another Korean flick, but if you count "The Host" as horror, "The Host" is a blast. The director's "Memories of Murder," while slightly pre-2005, is worth seeing, too, though not really a horror film. More a serial killer procedural along the same lines as "Zodiac."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)
if you are in the mood to see one of the worst films ever made, you can't go wrong with the 1980 night of the demon
http://www.youtube.com/v/CryBPpYTWfk
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)
so weird i was just going to mention memories of murder with that same caveat
― access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:54 (sixteen years ago)
memories of murder is almost on par with zodiac i think
At some point J-horror switched from ghost girls to low budget OTT 80's style gore. I'm not really keen on it. One I liked was 'Exte' by the guy who did Suicide Circle about cursed hair extensions. Tonally a lot like Uzumaki & pretty fun.
― xcixxorx, Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)
the horror film 'the booth' is a very good japanese flick about a haunted DJ booth. not gory but i thought it was pretty spooky especially considering the setting.
― access flap (omar little), Thursday, 22 October 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)
I really really really liked the strangers until the end
another one of the many horror movies with a great setup and no idea how to exit in a satisfactory manner
part of why I loved martyrs so much was that it found a graceful way out of its narrative challenges
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:03 (sixteen years ago)
Pontypool is another recent one that takes place in a DJ booth & another one which really doesn't exit in a satisfactory manner. It's worth a look though.
― xcixxorx, Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)
Has anyone seen Grace or Giallo?
― let them eat cankles (jeff), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:16 (sixteen years ago)
I AM A GHOST. THIS IS A TAKEOVER.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:18 (sixteen years ago)
I enjoyed turistas. then again, I went into it with really low expectations. I've never seen anybody say anything good about it, but it's got great cinematography, some creative set scenes, and realistic acting. the xenophobia aspect of the premise is sorta o_O but the same could be said about eden lake.
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:21 (sixteen years ago)
Would've been great if Giallo was a 'Grindhouse'-style homage to all those 70s films. Instead it's:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ne5Lb2SiFHg/SpvbzxSGD8I/AAAAAAAAkb8/COv33HMJVmo/s400/giallo_poster.jpg"i am a dud!"
― xcixxorx, Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)
the unborn was supposedly crap but I wanna see it for some reason
still haven't seen the orphanage
and speaking of korean films, chan-wook park's new one, thirst, is about a vampire priest, it played for 5 days here and I missed it... grrr
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:32 (sixteen years ago)
btw I owned this record as a kid, can I just
http://tcmmoviemorlocks.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/famous-monsters-speak2.jpg
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:36 (sixteen years ago)
this one too
http://www.wxyc.org/blog/dwf.jpg
sorry what were we talking about
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)
The Descent is great until the monsters show up
Paranormal Activity is bad, unless you really loved the Blair Witch Project
Last House on the Left remake has an interminable rape scene that kind of ruined the rest of the movie.
The Unborn was okay, kinda creepy when you find out the little girl star is an actual little girl
Halloween remake was terrible
Drag Me To Hell was pretty boring
Devil's Rejects is fantastic, a million times better than anything else Rob Zombie has done.
28 Weeks Later > 28 Days Later, but both are pretty good
― smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
Got dragged to see The Collector, which was one of the worst movie experiences of my life. People who enjoy that kind of shit make me do the arched-eyebrow emoticon.
― smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)
http://io9.com/5387328/see-the-beginning-of-the-descent-2
― let them eat cankles (jeff), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:42 (sixteen years ago)
i rep for 'rec' btw. not sure about the upcoming sequel since the demonic possession/religious stuff in the first one seemed pretty weak & tacked on, but i hope it's good.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:44 (sixteen years ago)
I watched the last 20 minutes of the ruins last week, it seemed terrible
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:45 (sixteen years ago)
not sure how this differs from the original
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)
Is the original rape scene 10 minutes long?
― smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:48 (sixteen years ago)
I didn't bring my stopwatch
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:51 (sixteen years ago)
did a search on imdb for horror movies released in 2009 PowerSearch ResultsHere are the 1514 matching titles:
o_o
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:52 (sixteen years ago)
that's excluding tv and video stuff
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:32 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
terrible, terrible movie
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:52 (sixteen years ago)
did you like his other films
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:55 (sixteen years ago)
I thought REC was great. I wasn't looking forward to the sequal but the one report I've heard about it was positive, so...
I didn't much care for the Brit horror movies mentioned above - Eden Lake, Severance, whathaveyou - though none are as bad as The Cottage. srsly do not watch the Cottage.
(oh wait, Brit horror The Descent was excellent).
― DavidM, Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)
martyrs fucked me up - i think i started a thread on it/french horror
the last house on the left remake was way less hateful and violent than the original but i kept getting distracted cuz the avenging moneyed class heroes had this fishy shadow over innsmouth look to them
i rep for it in basic ever ile horror film thread but home movie is the best dv/found footage horror movie ive seen - one of the best build-ups in a move ive seen recently
― m.coleman (Lamp), Thursday, 22 October 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)
did anybody see friedkin's bug? seems like it might be good in an off the wall kind of way.
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 22 October 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)
i'm assuming you're not talking about the chris smith doc that i've been meaning to see for years
xp
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 22 October 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)
It's not the greatest plot beat, I must say. How does a cat get into a medicine cabinet and open a bottle of pills exactly? Luckily it's also not a pivotal or important plot beat
― rameau in the main room (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 14:12 (four days ago)
Someone wished on a one wish willow that Bare's cat would die
― If your ass is a Bible, 213 will regulate (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 14:31 (four days ago)
The obvious intel commentary, I think, is how, even though we later find out she probably would have rejected him, all he had to do is say a simple sentence to find out for sure.
Instead, he relies on magic because he just wants it to happen with zero effort or work put in on his behalf. He'd rather a lifetime of discomfort than to be disappointed once
― If your ass is a Bible, 213 will regulate (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 14:33 (four days ago)
While Bear is deemed a villain, some of the discourse I've seen around his character doesn't quite ring true for me:
- It's true he's cowardly, but does it make him an outright villain? Even towards the start when Nikki straight-up asks him if he likes her, he chickens out of admitting it. While he should have just outright said "yes", I read that as being down to nerves rather than the stronger accusation of "cowardice". She does keep saying "Eugh!" any time the idea of them getting together is mentioned, so he's rightfully wary of making a fool of himself or ruining the friendship. I actually enjoyed this early scene in the car between the two main characters and just the awkwardness of it all. Is it me or does Nikki behave a little erratic/hard-to-pin-down even before the "curse" is afflicted? I couldn't work out why in that bar scene his friend tells Bear to go and make a move, then instantly comes up and cock-blocks him? Did I miss something there?
- To be fair to Bear, he didn't know the Willow-stick thing would actually work any more than his friend thought it would rain a billion dollars. It was all done on a whim, a spur of the moment, rather than with malicious intent. So for audiences to sit back and say "Whelp, looks like this loser got his just desserts - don't use ChatGPT, kids" feels a bit high-and-mighty
- I've heard people say "If Bear really loved Nikki and wasn't a cowardly villain, he would kill himself as per the rules of the Willow-stick". Which... okay, you'd try out a few other avenues out first (which he does) before resorting to that, no?
- Another thing is people saying he should have got help or spoken to someone sooner. Especially when his friends pressed him to explain what was going on... Um, yes he should have, but it wouldn't be the first time someone's covered-up for their partner's strange or abusive behaviour
So I don't know - there might be moments I'm missing that might paint him out to be a lot worse than I remember; and if I ever do watch it again it might drive it home a little more.
― rameau in the main room (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 14:35 (four days ago)
his friend doesn't want him asking Nikki out at trivia because he feels it will ruin trivia night. He mentions that to Bare in the opening scene, telling him to find any other time to ask
Re: Bare, sure, he didn't know it would work, but his actions after that show he isn't factoring Nikki's agency into his concerns. He's in Heaven for the first few weeks when she's relatively normal and only gets bothered when she makes *him* uncomfortable. His first request to the guy on the phone isn't to cancel his wish, it's to alter it. He wants Nikki without the obsession and the daily reminders that he forced this on her
― If your ass is a Bible, 213 will regulate (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 14:43 (four days ago)
Like Nikki frequently attempting to break free by injuring herself, the note on the Polaroid, none of this really scans for him as a cry for help as much as erratic behavior due to his wish.
― If your ass is a Bible, 213 will regulate (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 14:44 (four days ago)
The fact that people are having trouble seeing him as a villain is a factor of him seeming so ordinary. I remember having "secret admirers" as a young woman and it always instantly made me repulsed by the person. If you like me so much, why can't you simply say so? Why the big to-do? The notes? The weird interactions? He is SUCH a coward that he prefers magic to a simple "yes" when asked "do you like me"
And still! If the love object were to express this disgust, the reward is "oh but he likes you, he's just shy, etc etc etc" which is a boatload of bullshit.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 14:51 (four days ago)
his cowardice is what makes him villainous
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 14:52 (four days ago)
Yeah that all makes sense Neanderthal
― rameau in the main room (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 14:57 (four days ago)
yeah, he's a villain because he is a coward. That's sort of why the literal what the fuck moments got annoying. he knows exactly what the fuck, but convinces himself to look beyond it, even as extreme as things get.
why were they turned away from the hospital?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 June 2026 15:07 (four days ago)
Had the wrong opinion on the best Husker Du album
― If your ass is a Bible, 213 will regulate (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 15:13 (four days ago)
monster
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 June 2026 15:16 (four days ago)
But the reason he looks past it is the same incel logic, they view relationships as euphoria, like it will fix their misery.
It's like being on ecstasy. These are the types of people who love the first few months of a relationship, the excitement, the passion, the feeling of infatuation.
And often when the real work starts, the digging deeper, working through disagreements, seeing it grow into something deeper and less intense, they lose interest.
He's trying to get that crazy, unhinged passion back, and on the other hand, he's also scared of her. He feels like maybe if she can just stop doing things like cooking his dead cat, they can resume their ultra exciting passion again. That's what people like him think a relationship is.
But also he's afraid of what she'll do if he leaves!
― If your ass is a Bible, 213 will regulate (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 15:22 (four days ago)
The obvious analogy is AI and especially AI girlfriends. I did like the twist at the end where it looks like they're both just going to be forever zombied together, like two chatbots in a loop
― rameau in the main room (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 June 2026 15:45 (four days ago)