Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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I think what Gerrard etc are after is GLORY - in the form of silverware. What they don't seem to have an inkling of is that there is feasibly more glory in reviving, say, LFC as Premiership contenders - or, even, as is more likely, failing in that attempt - than there is in decamping to Real or Chelsea. If he stays at LFC for life he becomes a legend - if only to some of the more devoted supporters in the country. If he goes, he becomes just another guy following the money.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

But he would play less games and be fresher for the World Cup, heh...Liverpool may well collapse early on on account of the Champions League qualifications commitments taking their toil (inevitable injuries, suspensions etc.) if they don't strengthen the squad - so yeh I'm sorry I spoke (in support of Gerrard) now!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

Is it possible that Liverpool played a clever spin game, releasing misninformation that portrayed Stevie in a bad light before making it clear to him how loathed he'd be if he left? Hence all the vague apologies in that article and the lack of quotes from Mr Gerrard himself?

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

It is odd that SFX would apparently be happy to let one of their clients come across as such a flighty ditz.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

Yeah the idea that Gerrard felt he was not wanted due to stalling of contract talks - HELLO? Surely no-one is that dumb. Parry presumably didn't want it to flare up because the risk of Gerrard leaving was so strong. Presume it took them some time to work out how to divert an extrat 40k a week his way also (all the big - sorry - supersize clubs look like skinflints next to Chelsea now).

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

gerrard wont win anything with liverpool next year. perhaps this was something on his mind.

it is also possible that his mind is quite small

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

I think he may have replaced SFX as his agents with Phil Redmond

PJM - it was INXS iirc

― ceebee, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

Reading between these heart-wrenching lines, it seems obvious to me that unsettled Stevie Gerrard will be swapped for unsettled Hernan Crespo:

"I'm having the worst summer of my life because I don't know at what club I will be at in two weeks time," he had said.

"Since losing the Champions League final the only good thing that has happened has been my wedding."

I am trying to think of a suitable response to the INXS revelation.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps with SFX Gerrard felt that he was like a rabbit in a hutch, hence the switch.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

He told the Liverpool Echo: "The last five or six weeks were the hardest of my life because I wrongly believed the club didn't want me.

"This won't be happening again next summer or ever again."

Right. So them agreeing to what you wanted, which happened prior to you saying "I don't want to be here" isn't a strong enough indication then? Prick.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

Victim culture, eh? It is all-pervasive, and gets everywhere.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps he will be MADE to say sorry to the fans at this rate...

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

Does the offer to take over from Benitez still stand? I don't think Stevie G is decisive enough to be a manager. Or, come to think of it, anything else apart from a pampered footballer.

I'm worried about his future, after he hangs his boots up.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

It's not as if he'll NEED to work by that point though.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

"In emotional phone calls last night, Parry reminded the want-away captain that if he left the city now he might never see Dave Boyle's promised streak. Insiders suggest this was crucial in changing Gerrard's mind."

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

FW: the new Stevie G song, [to be sung in a thick scouse accent]
.............................................................

Ode to "Stevie G"
(to the tune of "Should I stay or should I go" by the Clash)

Agent you gotta let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
If they'll pay 100K
I'll tell Real to go away
But don't treat me like a fool
They pay me less than Harry Kewell

We won the champions league
I kissed the badge down on my knees
Can I resist the lure of Chelski?
Have they a shirt that'll even fit me?
Hope my agent let's me know
Should I quit or should I blow

This indecision's bugging me
They burned my shirt on Sky TV
First it's white and next it's black
And I've made Parry look a right pratt
I've made my mind up and that's that
oh wait I think I'll change it back

Should I stay or should I go now
Should I stay or should I go now
If I go blue I'm paid in roubles
If I stay they'll pay me double
But we'll sign Peter Crouch oh no!
Should I stay or should I go?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

Dirty Cash - The Adventures of Stevie G

― On one hand I've got myself to blame (Lynskey), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

I am secretly quite proud of it, and thinking of having it copyrighted so I can make a few quid from it.

Ooh!

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

"In the language he used to us, he never said he wanted to go. He never said 'I wanted to go'."

"He never said 'I wanted to go'. In the language he used to us, he never said he wanted to go."

"In the language he used to us, he never said he wanted to go. He never said 'I wanted to go'."

"He never said 'I wanted to go'. In the language he used to us, he never said he wanted to go."

"In the language he used to us, he never said he wanted to go. He never said 'I wanted to go'."

"He never said 'I wanted to go'. In the language he used to us, he never said he wanted to go."

― the steinfox, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

In the words of Dusty Springfield - It Begins Again.

Liverpool begin their defence of their European crown tonight at home to lowly Total Control Racing of Wales.

The match is a sell-out!

Most of Total Control Racing's players are Scousers!

One of them has a Liverpool tattoo, unlike Cabbage.

Will the buzz remain unharshed?

Is anyone excited?

I haven't even been on me summer holidays yet!

(I'm not going.)

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Everton's first pre-season friendly was a 9-0 win over FC Gamlitz in Austria (Vaughan hat-trick! It's Rooney summer '02 all over again! It totally makes up for the Highbury rout!); I expect Liverpool to at least match that tonight.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

Congratulations to Everton FC and all their supporters on a tremendous achievement.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

When the lads get back we're going to have an open-top taxi drive up and down Spellow Lane a couple of times with a couple of the youth squad in, holding up their duty-free.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

The Liverpool match is on ITV2 tonight, BTW. I am that football-deprived of late that even this is exciting me.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Well done, Stevie G! You've earned your wages this week, big fella!

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Thursday, 14 July 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Crouch to Liverpool:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4677639.stm

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Liverpool announce new Crouch lunchboxes for young fans:

http://www.jordanstallard.com/images/lunchboxes/southpark_timmy.jpg

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

I always think he looks like a baby giraffe, struggling to get to its feet after being born.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

This thread gets better and better and BETTER!

When the 9th goal went in, I suppose it was Goodnight Vienna. Or, Goodnight Gamlitz.

It's true, Stevie G seems to have played out of his SKIN, these two weeks!

They weren't dancing on the streets of Total Network Solutions by the time he'd finished with them!

When I heard that Crouch had at last made his move, I was going to revive this thread and say something like, 'Cor, with Crouch on board, they could become unstoppable'. I wasn't going to mean it. But then I realized that technically they already are. Unstoppable.

― the blissfox, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

True to his word, Michael has sent me the LFC Champions League DVD (and the UEFA/FA/MILK cup season DVD too!). What a sweetheart. I vow never to never mention the events of 25/5/05 in his presence ever again.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

I hear the DVD continues a hidden 'Easter egg' consisting of a CGI simulation of Boyler's naked parade through the city's fair streets.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

I vow never to never mention the events of 25/5/05 in his presence ever again.

(I call that a) Bargain!

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

That was very generous. He once gave me a crappy computer-only sub-DVD CD-R doubel disc set of The Bourne Conspiracy (or Identity). I might watch it tonight. If only I could watch it on the train in some kind of brain implant.

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Actually, Mike, can you sort me out with some other stuff before you leave?

― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

For the record, Michael has got DVDs of some belly dancer woman and Jesus Christ Superstar, and he "might have to hand them in". Very poor.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

I said "ballet" (it's Sylvie Guillem, poncing-abaht fans) but PJ's Midlands-accented brain parsed it as "belly". Also: Thunderbirds - DVD extras with Japanese subs.

It would've been so much easier to stick with my current job and just supplement my income down Deptford market with me dodgy discs.

Everton lost on penalties to Thailand, I see. I think it was a strategic defeat to boost Chang beer sales.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

they were lucky not to lose in normal time!

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

(Michael has got a Thunderbirds sticker on his dictionary.)

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

Gallstad 0-14 Aston Villa

Luke Moore's career statistics
Substitute Luke Moore scored six as Aston Villa humiliated Swedish part-timers Gallstads in a 14-goal romp that opened their tour.
Moore's tally came in 31 second-half minutes while there were two goals each for Juan Pablo Angel, Kevin Phillips and Nolberto Solano.

Liam Ridgewell and Lee Hendrie managed one goal each.

Moore was only a half-time replacement for Phillips but needed 14 minutes to get on the scoresheet.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

That's shut you all up, hasn't it? Eh? Eh? EH?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Congratulations to Aston Villa FC and their supporter on a tremendous achievement.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Thank you!

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

Regarding EFC's penalty shootout defeat to the Thai U23s, WSAG said:

Weir and McFadden made no mistakes with the first two for the Blues, but then Yobo stepped up, took one step and, to quote a friend, kicked the ball as if he was returning it to a small child. Seriously, suspect packages get toeyed harder.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 22 July 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

Manchester City could send midfielder Joey Barton home from their Thailand trip after he was allegedly involved in an altercation with an Everton fan.
Everton and Bolton are also in Thailand for the Asia Trophy and it was a 15-year-old Toffees supporter who Barton, 22, reportedly clashed with.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

Is it too obvious a conclusion to draw that the Everton fan called him a "Joey"?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm surprised poor Joey could even understand him.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

(... and better, and better!)

― the blissfox, Friday, 22 July 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

I see EFC lost on pens again, this time to Man City (Bolton beat the Thai U23s with a last-min Diouf pen in the final).

Not as interesting as my dreams either side of the match - the first in which the Blues were drawn with Linfield, Fazakerley and En Cho Ryu (of Austria, natch) in their Champs Lge group (the most dream-like aspect of it being that we qualify for the group stage), the second in which we faced Aston Villa away in a Premiership opener and either won 3-2 or lost 3-2 depending on which newspaper you read. Everyone seemed in agreement that Luke Moore got the last goal of the game but no one was sure in which net. The Observer said the press box were gripped by "a mental fog". The goal times were bizarre too - Cahill opening the scoring in the 177th minute.

I think the season may be looming.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 24 July 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

It sounds promising. The boy Mooro could be the revelation of the season.

Milan Baros to Villa? "My boy don't want any fucking silverware," said his agent, "the Brasso costs a bomb and it's all rub, rub, rub, like my old mum with the washing". His agent is a cockney.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

A mental fog!!

― the blissfox, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

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