Zach Braff: Voice of our Generation

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Theory: people who hate Scrubs are secretly afraid that there's rather too much of the Zach Braffs about them?

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

TRUTH PARRY

Scrubs is OK (tho the 1 ep I saw this season was baaaaaaaad)
Dr. Cox is awesome
AD is great
30 Rock is godhead

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

you guys are WRONG. if they got rid of the chick KofQ would be almost perfect

― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

What about "Campus Ladies"? I'm kind of in love with this show.

It's on Oxygen. I don't know if men will find it amusing. This week, the ladies take 'shrooms. It's going to be a delight.

― molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Campus Ladies is pretty funny, I never know when it's on though. I give my parents crap for watching K o' Q every day in syndication but honestly it's not bad for what it is. Even ignoring Braff everyone on Scrubs overacts horribly. AD is overrated but still great. Alec Baldwin is basically the best dude. These are my opinions as an American

― A B C (sparklecock), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Haha the best dude out of all dudes, yes.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

After 30 Rock and the Departed I have a huge crush on Alec Baldwin, which is deeply worrying.

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's not. That's no crush of shame. I have a crush on Alec Baldwin, in a strictly man way.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

According to Jim is the greatest show of the last 20 years.

j/k ; P

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

TS: http://tammybruce.com/archives/fatalec.jpg

vs.

http://www.stationave.com/lectures/alec-baldwin01%5B1%5D.jpg

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think I like him better now. He used to be so handsome it was a little creepy.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

The image doesn't work but lol @ "fatalec.jpg"

― A B C (sparklecock), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

is baldwin a vulcan?

― max (maxreax), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

OK I am about to sound like a lame-ass getting specific about this, but: Scrubs is both funny AND CUTE, kinda. I'm not gonna hate on the parts where the cuteness works. Some of the humor can be a little bit self-satisfied in its wacky preciousness, but even in those cases it does it with a kind of devil-may-care confidence that keeps it working. This show and That 70s Show started up in similar time-frames, if I remember right, and they seem kinda similar on that front -- the way they kinda toss plausibility and set the whole thing within the characters' own imaginary world? (See also how on both shows half the humor stems from characters playing ridiculous games/pranks with one another, as if they're just bored.) Scrubs's dramatic moments tend to be awfully lame, no doubt, and the rigid three-act structure is as laughable as that of Sex and the City, and exactly the same --

1.
- voice-over introduces episode's thematic topic ("in a hospital you depend on your coworkers" / "in New York we like men and shoes")
- scenes establish each character's activities

2.
- conflicts arise in each storyline
- voice-over points out thematic questions uniting them all ("sometimes you realize your friends aren't there for you ... or your relationship isn't as strong as you thought" / "I couldn't help but wonder ... were men the new shoes?")

3.
- conflicts resolve
- voice-over unites all resolutions under one banner ("maybe the person you least expect is looking out for you ... or maybe you realize your girlfriend cares about you more than you thought" / "but it was summer in New York, and I had some fabulous shoes")

-- which, as above, is lame, but if you're the sort of person who can enjoy watching a Sex and the City episode and betting on whether Carrie will say "I couldn't help but wonder," "I had to ask," or "OTHER," then you can probably forgive the rigid blocks in there and just wait for Donald Faison to be awesome again.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

how do I shot voice-overs

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

that 70s show is really underrated. that cast had a real good chemistry i thought. for trad sitcoms nowadays, i'm a sucker for two and a half men and how i met yr mother.

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

the acting on that 70's show was really good. this is really obvious when you watch something terrible like "according to jim" or "the war at home" or something equally awful. how I met your mother is great, except for the pretty canadian girl, although her acting might be properly attributed to her character's canadian-ness

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

ugh, 'that 70s show'

― ‘•’u (gear), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

i guess i'm 'ugh' over the last 3-4 seasons. the first 3 were pretty solid.

― ‘•’u (gear), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

fez went from being likable to being a prick, which probably coincided with wilmer starting to score with every barely-legal young hollywood party girl around. and i think laura prepon is a terrible actress.

― ‘•’u (gear), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

scrubs, directed by Terrance Mallick

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Best thing about 70's Show: the parents.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

jackie has been my role model for years.

here, jackie wearing jackie:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/941/jackiege8.jpg

― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Friday, 12 January 2007 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

that last 30 rock sorta sucked tho, compared to the usual standards.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

"laura prepon is a terrible actress."

She's the poor man's ScarJo!

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

(also totally hotter than ScarJo - at least back when she was a redhead - but maybe that's just me)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I just realized who Dr. Cox is, and let me tell you something: besides the ever-repellent Zach Barff, Dr. Cox is a *major* reason that I hate this show. Also, Turk. 3 actors/characters that I simply can not stand. Dr. Cox and Braff run neck-and-neck for biggest turn-off.

("Well, why do you watch it," You ask? I try not to, but sometimes we have to put friendship above taste in TV. However, I do reserve the right groan and grimace when it's on.)

― a puppy holding a miller high life bottle (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

Not liking Donald Faison = being a bad person.

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

donald faison made clueless the film that it was

― max (maxreax), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

Dr. Cox was okay in Platoon. Nabisco OTM about all these shows' annoying formulas tho.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

i think nabisco's point was how their annoying formulae made them so watchable!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 13 January 2007 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

But from my point of view the Jedi are evil

― A B C (sparklecock), Saturday, 13 January 2007 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

I might be agnostic on the annoying formula, but yeah, leaning toward favoring them. I mean, it's a sitcom, that reassuring structure is part of the point. And while laying out the themes always seems sophomoric, it's like a total of thirty seconds of voice-over -- just a tiny formulaic tic that kinda goes with the territory.

Also I wanted to point out that Turk is kind of the best-developed black character I know of on network television! Or at least he's not slotted into a black-character "type" or just totally racially ignored. He's a recognizable type of person who is just about never protrayed on television or in film, which I totally appreciate.

(Also I remembered the root-level parallel with That 70s Show, which is that the humor always comes back to every character being lame or geeky, as opposed to the old sitcom model where characters are blowhards or straight-men or toughs or whatever -- this is part of why it can read as too precious or cutesy sometimes, sure, but I think mostly it comes off actually lovable.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 13 January 2007 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

Scrubs is one of my favourite shows on TV... it's total bubblebath.

There.

(Runs away.)

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Dr. Cox is a *major* reason that I hate this show

But but... he's such a witty asshole! He's the only reason I LIKE the show, most of the time. You don't like House, either... I'm sensing a trend. You don't like characters who are big fat jerks. I, on the other hand, love them. I wonder what that means. Hmmm.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's that I secretly wish I could get away with being such a jerk (though in real life, no one can), and you see jerks on TV as just jerks without the necessary element of detachment.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, I have enjoyed patterning myself after Lucille/Dr. Cox's Wife for a while now...

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

haha

Jordan. Jordan is great.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

But surely when you pattern yourself after such a character, it's the wit that you want to emulate, and not the more indefensible characteristics.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

What, like being a jerk?

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 13 January 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

No, I'm fine with that, as long as you're a witty jerk. But the jerk always learns his lesson in one way or another.

This is why I love the movie Groundhog Day. He stops being a jerk, but he doesn't lose the wit.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, WE'VE FINALLY FOUND HIS MUSE

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 15 January 2007 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - I LOVE characters who are assholes! Lucillle Bluth, Ricky Gervais, Ab-Fab women, etc. I just hate House b/c the show (the few times I have seen it) seems to rely way too heavily on his asshole-dom (same with Monk and the OCD).

― a puppy holding a miller high life bottle (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 05:25 (nineteen years ago)

He says, "To have millions of people go, 'I watched your movie and related' was the ultimate affirmation that I'm not a freak."

How out of touch with the world around you do you have to be to think that mild depression would make you a freak?

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

Mild depression is a blessing, 'round my social circles. Mr. Braff, have you ever gone days without bathing or getting out of bed? No? Then you're fine. Shut up.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 07:23 (nineteen years ago)

He doesn't play the image game! That's why he's so inconsistent and we can't stereotype him, because he doesn't have a well-tuned image.

― mh. (mike h.), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, maybe I'm just a sucker for singing and dancing, but the Scrubs musical was pretty cute.

― Charlie Brown (kenan), Friday, 19 January 2007 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

an alum from elmo.oxygen + my high school directed it

― ewe never broke yr treo 4ever (ex machina), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:54 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

wow 'the last kiss' was really annoying and dumb and derivative and zach braff's face is made for slapping
ugh
i liked the gf's parents though, sort of

― rrrobyn, Friday, 24 August 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

Madison, Wisc. has a good role.

― Eazy, Friday, 24 August 2007 03:08 (eighteen years ago)

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