Would Anyone Still Vote Labour?

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Rugby has been a marginal since '97, when the Labour MP won by less than 500 votes. Stayed Labour in '01 by 2,877 votes, went Tory in '05 by 1,556. So we couldn't be more marginal, but if it weren't for Kenilworth. We were Labour-leaning before they changed the boundary to include in '83.

I just looked it up on Wikipedia though and look!

Following their review of parliamentary representation in Warwickshire, the seat of Rugby and Kenilworth is to be abolished.

The sucessor seats are Kenilworth and Southam, which was originally to be named "Mid Warwickshire", and a re-formed Rugby constituency.

Woohoo! Independence at last! I got confirmed in St. Andrews church, but I don't remember the inside, just the scary alley round the back. I used to hang around the graveyard sometimes in gothier days.

Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1747771,00.html

how about now?

Riot Clone, Thursday, 6 April 2006 07:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Does the addition of folic acid make any difference to the taste of bread?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link

that article is 100% otm.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:31 (eighteen years ago) link

She missed out the YSI ban.

A Van That's Loaded With Mushy Peas (noodle vague), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Curious how Melanie Phillips, say, in the Mail could have written the same article virtually word-for-word.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:34 (eighteen years ago) link

The legislative and regulatory reform bill, now entering its final stages, will let ministers alter laws by order, rather than having to argue their case in parliament.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I see no ban on General Elections in that bill.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link

fantastic.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link

So if people don't like what This Government are doing, they're still entitled to vote them out next time innit?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:46 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah but in the meantime the govt will continue not to educate said public in such things as the nature of english constitutional law; and any government they elected would keep the excessive powers given them by labour. it's hard to *lose* powers as a government because -- surprise! -- politicoes *like* power. so it's ID cards all round, son, whoever's in power.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:49 (eighteen years ago) link

So in other words you're saying people are too stupid to vote. Doesn't that back up Labour's argument?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link

i dunno i just want the man off my mfkn back.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Capitalism, son. It doesn't happen.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link

You may have to emigrate somewhere man-less then.

A Van That's Loaded With Mushy Peas (noodle vague), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

like NORTH KOREA amirite?

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I was thinking of that island where Wonder Woman comes from.

A Van That's Loaded With Mushy Peas (noodle vague), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Women rule my world, son.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I am actively thinking of emigration at the moment, but completely in the other direction, i.e. Canada.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:04 (eighteen years ago) link

well guns are legal there so they're getting something right.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you a Nazi?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:10 (eighteen years ago) link

no. you need guns, to fight nazis with.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Not to kill Communists?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:14 (eighteen years ago) link

This may prove deleterious to potential future HKM employers.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm just sayin'

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link

1) blimey, that guardian talk site isn't very good, is it? most popular article: some knob talking about wanting their cats put down. give me ILE any day - and i'm deadly serious there. does anyone hear frequent "talk is free"? i've been meaning to check it out, but ... i'm not sure i'll bother now.

2) i haven't voted labour since 1997. i remember how happy i was that day, on what seemed like a glorious new dawn. talk about fucking betrayal.

3) anyone who didn't notice several years ago that blair is an arrogant, smug, power-grabbing enemy of "democracy" (see 4) really needs their head examined.

4) "first past the post" is not democracy. here in scotland we might have the feeblest regional assembly devolved parliament imaginable BUT AT LEAST THE RIGHT SYSTEM IS IN PLACE.

5) i guess the answer i'm driving at here is "would i fuck. never again."

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:44 (eighteen years ago) link

does anyone hear frequent "talk is free"

COUGH COUGH "here" cough. in mitigation: i'm ill.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:45 (eighteen years ago) link

guardian message boces are weird -- everyone there thinks they're kind of writing 'in public'. in a way i suppose they are... but it needs hen fap. or at least some O RLYs.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:47 (eighteen years ago) link

You're not familiar with the 5000 kitten threads on ILE then, Simon?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

we're all being monitored. the spooks are reading this thread. they have both our IP and home addresses. we have expressed our dissent. keep your noses clean kids, we are enemies of the state.

johm clarkson, Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Wooooooooooooooooooh.

A Van That's Loaded With YSI? (noodle vague), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

god i'm boring when i'm pissed. see henry rollins thread

john clarkson, Friday, 7 April 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Following their review of parliamentary representation in Warwickshire, the seat of Rugby and Kenilworth is to be abolished.

The sucessor seats are Kenilworth and Southam, which was originally to be named "Mid Warwickshire", and a re-formed Rugby constituency.

Which is fab, but bizarrely, Dunchurch gets chucked into this new Kenilworth seat, whilst Bulkington gets included with Rugby! Makes Rugby a safe Labour seat now, I'd guess, but oddly I'm not as enthused about this as I would've been 9 years ago.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Marcello, you should consider yourself lucky then. I've been looking to get out of the USA forever. F---ing trapped.

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I vote labour! conservative totes sucks!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 7 April 2006 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm voting Labour again, the Tories are getting too big for their boots

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 7 April 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
jenni russell has some serious game

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1759796,00.html

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Monday, 24 April 2006 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Oddly, I got a leaflet through the door for the local elections that almost convinced me to vote Labour.

It was from the Labour party, too.

the bellefox, Monday, 24 April 2006 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

what did it say/not say?

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Our local election ballot papers came the other morning. We have a grand total of TWO candidates in our ward - one Labour, one Tory. The Lib Dems have a pact with the Tories in this area - they don't put candidates up against each other in local elections, and in return they will form a coalition with each other if Labour don't get a majority.

It clearly worked, because they've been jointly ruling for a few years now, despite Lib Dem claims that they don't make agreements like that. My problem is: what the hell do I do? I don't want to abstain because that makes me look like the can't-be-arsed majority - but I can't bring myself to vote for either candidate. If I can be bothered, I'll write to the candidates (and the local LD chairman) explaining why I can't bring myself to cast a vote. And spoil my paper too.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post: It was all about local stuff. Blair, Brown and all the rest of it utterly unmentioned. I suppose it made me think that these people must have gone into local Labour politics for good reasons, not to support the reactionary and dangerous policies of the government. Perhaps I am wrong, or naive.

the bellefox, Monday, 24 April 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i must say the lib dem literature shoved through my letterbox has been opportunistic in the extreme. haven't received anything from labour, but while i can alost imagine good people working for them at a local level, i think to belong to the party at all at this stage is just plain wrong.

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Somewhat off topic, but for all you disillusioned Labor voters let me cite just this excerpt from a recent commentary from the other side of the ocean:

"Contrary to Ralph Nader's credo that there was no real difference between the major parties, it is close to inconceivable that the country and the world would not be in far better shape had Gore been allowed to assume the office that a plurality of voters wished him to have."
(http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/060424ta_talk_remnick)

We all understand the desire to punish Labour, but don't cut your nose off to spite your face.

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

patricia hewitt must get dumb ass politician of the year

renamed patricia "the Twit" hewitt

the NHS has had it's best year EVER

- meanwhile hundreds of nurses / other workers getting p45s
- financial meltdown at NHS trust level that even the govt tried to put right by bringing financial consultants

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link

'don't cut off your nose to spite your face'? This is the great thing about the UK, Labour can get away with anything as long as people still get apoplectic about things that happened under the Tories two decades ago.

Riot Clone, Monday, 24 April 2006 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.heady.co.uk/rm/chamel.jpg

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 24 April 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

'don't cut off your nose to spite your face'? This is the great thing about the UK, Labour can get away with anything as long as people still get apoplectic about things that happened under the Tories two decades ago.

Mr Clone, your comments on this thread have led me to conclude you're just street-teaming for the Conservative Party. Care to confirm or deny?

Ricky Nadir (noodle vague), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

errr, dude, that's just not so. labour have *extended* the thatcher project. criticising labour is criticising the tories.

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

After Sunday's headlines, Labour have pulled ahead of the Tories in the 'never ever again' stakes.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 08:39 (eighteen years ago) link


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