Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Perhaps I'm being naive, but why would the government want to gag that enough to put up with all this fuss? Does that report reflect on them in some way that I'm missing?

caek, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 07:46 (sixteen years ago)

Am I reading this wrong or isn't this more about Carter Ruck "protecting" it's clients than the government "gagging" anyone?

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:08 (sixteen years ago)

Or rather isn't the Guardian, in it's usual roundabout way, highlighting a problem with the law as it stands that may well be used by law firms from now on to prevent the reporting of parliament? i.e. if this goes unchallenged. The fact that I've seen the question in question on at least three different websites in the last couple of minutes (including wiki) makes the whole thing a bit silly.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:12 (sixteen years ago)

lol twitter flashmob 2.0

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:21 (sixteen years ago)

This is the first story on Guido and lol at his insane commenteers who start off with "THIS IS IT PEOPLE - WE ARE NOW IN ENDTIMES" and then start getting into the McCanns and how the BNP wouldn't let this type of thing happen.

Well, if it was Carter-Ruck's intention to keep what Trafigura are up to out of the press it has well and truly fucked up.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:32 (sixteen years ago)

oh twitter

caek, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:34 (sixteen years ago)

"The gag is generally considered in the Blogosphere to be…"

caek, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:35 (sixteen years ago)

we are going to GAG THEM

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:42 (sixteen years ago)

You can't prevent reporting of parliament. It takes place in public and it's proceedings get published in Hansard the next day anyway. I guess parliament itself could prohibit reporting, but I'm not sure it's ever met in camera, even during the war.

I must say that I don't actually see why this is supposed to prevent reporting of parliament - from what I've read, it seems to be an order to keep the company's documents confidential. If they're private documents, I guess that might be possible. If Paul Farrely reads them out in parliament, which he's entitled to do, they'd become public that way and i'm pretty sure they could then be reported that way, regardless of any court order. I may have got it wrong, I haven't read much yet, but I don't see why the big fuss.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:48 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/leah-borromeo

not sure if this is good or bad.

Smokey and the S'Banned It (history mayne), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:24 (sixteen years ago)

It's not really objectionable but it's just stating a slice of the obvious plus vague claims about what the world "needs" with no sense of how she thinks that might happen. Who'd've thought big business wd try and muscle in on the action, eh?

You treat your step-mother with respect, Pantera (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:28 (sixteen years ago)

"Hardcore with a haircut, she has a knack for being in the wrong place at the right time."

Disco Stfu (Raw Patrick), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:31 (sixteen years ago)

If she had all those proper jobs how come she's blogging for the Graun?

You treat your step-mother with respect, Pantera (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:32 (sixteen years ago)

yeah no i meant the profile, not the article.

what is it to be "hardcore with a haircut"?

Smokey and the S'Banned It (history mayne), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:33 (sixteen years ago)

"regularly contributes to hipster rags like Juxtapoz and Who's Jack."

are these things?

Smokey and the S'Banned It (history mayne), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:34 (sixteen years ago)

I thought we was talking about the Copenhagen article. Which on second reading is a bit objectionable anyway. I put the profile into my bulging "Loldon" file.

You treat your step-mother with respect, Pantera (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:35 (sixteen years ago)

Didn't understand what she was arguing for in the Copenhagen article. She's in favour of "grass roots movements that tackle tangible goals" like "fair rights" and "proper justice", and "not semantic abstract concepts" like CO2 reductions. WTF?

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:40 (sixteen years ago)

What age group is the Guardian aimed at?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 December 2009 11:51 (sixteen years ago)

Why is there no full stop at the end of the profile blurb?

exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:52 (sixteen years ago)

xpost

What's the age group for mid-life crises?

You treat your step-mother with respect, Pantera (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:55 (sixteen years ago)

Juxtapoz is the art mag for those who like their art to be an oil painting of a naked woman sitting on a taco. Dunno about the other mag.

Disco Stfu (Raw Patrick), Friday, 11 December 2009 12:10 (sixteen years ago)

self facilitating media nodes then yeah?

dog latin, Friday, 11 December 2009 12:23 (sixteen years ago)

Translation: 'we are a clique of early adapters with bad web skillz, please send us to parties and pay us in goodie bags'.

special vixens unit (suzy), Friday, 11 December 2009 12:23 (sixteen years ago)

is the name a snide reference to failed james brown magazine jack, i wonder.

Smokey and the S'Banned It (history mayne), Friday, 11 December 2009 12:32 (sixteen years ago)

This guy looks to be the literary answer to Bobby G, haircut, literary style and all:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/dec/22/tonight-rocknroll-scribe

Neil S, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 16:29 (sixteen years ago)

oops double use of the word "literary" there, my bad!

Neil S, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)

I'd like to think that one crucial difference between a literary editor and a newspaper sub is that only one of them would allow a writer to start a piece with the words "face-crunchingly cringeworthy"

he "howls" the refrain in tune with the music (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 16:57 (sixteen years ago)

^^ ot fucking m. saying the same thing with two words. very overwritten in a student paper stylee. so rightat home at the guardian.

Sometimes I get myself in a right pickle.

vernacular! he ought to cut his hair.

Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

He's a writer playing at journalism, which results in a. the writer ignoring the conventions of journalism because he can (and likely knows no better), and b. the editor/sub cutting the writer some (possibly undue) slack because the writer has presumably been given the commission on account of his "style", such as it is.

Nothing to get too het up about, and mildly diverting to boot.

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)

guy is 33 and says trainspotting is the book that made him want to be a writer, which would have made him, what, 17? yeah, he's not going to be much of a stylist.

joe, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:41 (sixteen years ago)

argh, ignore that, got his date of birth wrong. he's barely older than max gogarty.

joe, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:43 (sixteen years ago)

HIs first book, Apples, is one of those that isn't bad for being written by a teenager. He's now 25.

kati roll deep (suzy), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)

kind of sad that the supposed voice of youth's cultural touchstones are irvine welsh and the stone roses. that's the voice of my youth, and i'm old.

joe, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/blog/2009/dec/29/unnecessary-999-calls

This is almost entirely unremarkable as per the URL but cheap lols can be extracted from the line "Greater Manchester police said it received almost 1.4m calls between Christmas Eve and Boxing Day" and, as suggested below the article,

The BBC reported "Between Christmas Eve and Boxing Day, GMP said it received 1,377 999 calls, but only a fraction were genuine emergencies."

Grauniad Journo reads this as 1,377,999 & rounds it up.

Simples!

cheap lol

Ferry Aid was a popular appeal and it still is (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:20 (sixteen years ago)

It took me embarrassingly long to get that

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:26 (sixteen years ago)

i read my mother's copy of the mail yesterday - you know, when they excerpted the columnist calling for the death penalty on the front - and, you know, the guardian might be annoying sometimes but, like, they're fine really, you know

thomp, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 12:49 (sixteen years ago)

Wasn't very impressed with Michael White's thoughts on the China execution

Send him on a philosophy/critical thinking course.

Bob Six, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 13:56 (sixteen years ago)

haha i had his immediate reaction: lol brits trying to push heroins on china again.

i haven't followed this story closely, but i was more surprised by the fact this guy was the first to be executed in china in 50 years. i did see one of his friends or family interviewed and they did absolutely appallingly -- he didn't know what he was getting into, etc. it's not a watertight defence anywhere. she should just have said "killing people for drug-smuggling is ott".

Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 13:59 (sixteen years ago)

Jesus that is woolly. "Black men on death row... um... we executed someone 35 years ago... um... opium wars, on wikipedia, check it out it's rad. Will this do?" xp.

poster x (ledge), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)

not the most coherent thing one has read no.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:11 (sixteen years ago)

she should just have said "killing people for drug-smuggling is ott".

don't think that would have been super effective in terms of saving your family member from death row.

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)

They don't seem very human, Guardian folk - it's like they can't take a view on anything until they've zoomed out to the widest possible perspective

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:14 (sixteen years ago)

what? idk, the opium wars were literally my immediate reaction. the article seems coherent to me. more so than asking fucking china of all places to pretty please waive its laws just this once.

(i once emailed m-white and he emailed back like a mensch. most successful journalists i've encountered have been up 'emselves. i think he's one of the few guardian writers who isn't barking mad.)

Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:17 (sixteen years ago)

it's not our michael white, is it?

thomp, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:18 (sixteen years ago)

im surprised on this occasion they chose not to take the "nobody would have died if we were prepared to pay a bit more and only bought our fairtrade drugs from waitrose" perspective

I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

French Alarm Clocks are exquisite! Morningwood is partly predicated on one's inability to pee while hard; don't worry.

― Enfonce bien tes ongles et tes doigts délicats dans la jungle de (Michael White), Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:59 PM (10 minutes ago)

thomp, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

Guardian says 'Sadie Frost is pretty'.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:12 (sixteen years ago)

not sure quite what level of profundity you were expecting from a four paragraph blog in the beauty section tbf.

joe, Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:34 (sixteen years ago)


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