A thread for Wes Anderson's "The Fantastic Mr. Fox"

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not knowing about the situation, to me publicly bitching about the guy to the papers is way worse than being a little distant and controlling... as a movie director

fleetwood (max), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, I wouldn't really call myself a big fan and I don't think I'll like this movie very much, on the other hand, he was the director of the film, not the director of photography or the cinematographer or a variety of other more hands-on important tasks, which unfortunately aren't often given the credit in culture that "director" is given. That's too bad, but with something that takes as long to make as this, I see no reason why he would have to be on site every day for three years, that's preposterous. Architects aren't onsite on construction projects every day all day either.

akm, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

actors and directors are often a little distant and weird but not actively awful. DPs, PAs, assistant directors, editors, mid-level producers, grips....those people are really doing Important Work and they don't want to hear about it, they're Fucking Busy Right Now.

omar little, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

I feel like if I was an animator working on a project by a famous auteur and he was letting us do our own thing rather than stopping in all the time to pick over everything that it would make it a less stressful situation.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

i kind of wonder how familiar they are with him as auteur, actually. there's one guy bitching about how normally animated film you do wacky crazy camera angles and make shit exciting, and all this wes anderson guy wants to do is boring static shots

thomp, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, wes anderson doesn't come off too badly in that article imo

a perfect urkel (gbx), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

Jarvis Cocker's contribution.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/oct/12/jarvis-cocker-fantastic-mr-fox

knick knack auf zack (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 12 October 2009 13:24 (sixteen years ago)

The trailer got a good reception, i.e plenty of laughs in the cinema on Saturday. Was rather sceptical of it based on what I saw previously but warmed to it quite a bit after watching it with an audience.

go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Monday, 12 October 2009 14:22 (sixteen years ago)

I really enjoyed it. Gambon is the best thing about it, I reckon.

Michael Jones, Monday, 12 October 2009 14:26 (sixteen years ago)

I liked this a lot. Takes about 15 minutes to bed in but once Michael Gambon appears, smoking and swearing, it's all gold. Haven't enjoyed a Wes Anderson film as much since Rushmore. Absence of "crazy camera angles" not a big problem.

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 12 October 2009 14:26 (sixteen years ago)

it seems weird to me that wes anderson is 40

Well, it's less weird if, based on the ending of Darjeeling Limited, he has finally forgiven Daddy.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 October 2009 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

Swearing? Cussing, you mean.

xp

Michael Jones, Monday, 12 October 2009 14:32 (sixteen years ago)

wes anderson sounds like the kind of guy who'd come downstairs for breakfast having shaved his moustache off and everyone would know not to mention it, ever

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 14:34 (sixteen years ago)

Sounds more like animators having no idea what will make the thing unique and being irritated because they cant use conventional modern wisdom and all their fancy tricks they learnt to do, completely failing to understand why...

Should have just showed them the clangers and said LIKE THAT BUT FANCY tbf

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:07 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i mean it's totally fair to want to use ancient techniques or whatever the fuck but it sounds like W.A. is maybe not the world's greatest communicator/expectations setter

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:10 (sixteen years ago)

perhaps for his next movie wes anderson can shoot "the very hungry caterpillar" on tri-x reversal and edit it on a steenbeck

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:15 (sixteen years ago)

Shouldnt have hired animators at all imo, thats like getting genius maestros to be a Ramones cover band or something, but I guess he compromised his vision by wanting it to look GOOD HUH

Pussy

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:18 (sixteen years ago)

This film should only ever have been made in his own attic with whatever discarded crap was lying around

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i'm still trying to figure out how slavishly imitating a style that's 30 years out of date is "unique"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:22 (sixteen years ago)

probably should have chiseled the film on stone tablets

Bobby Wo (max), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

after that he could fuck off

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:29 (sixteen years ago)

i loved this book when i was a kid and the movie looks awesome

pariah carey (Mr. Que), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:31 (sixteen years ago)

i love the book too but not everything has to be a fucking movie

on a related note the museum of childhood in bethnal green had until very recently an exhibition on the second floor about roald dahl, which included the original notes dahl took on a yellow legal pad when he was laying out the plot of this story.. pretty cool

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

it probably makes an appearance in the bottom left corner of minute 21 of this movie

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)

actually everything has to be a fucking movie, sorry

Bobby Wo (max), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)

i agree, not everything has to be a movie, but at the same time this looks like a fun movie.

pariah carey (Mr. Que), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

again, mr. que, everything has to be a movie

Bobby Wo (max), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

a fucking movie

Bobby Wo (max), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

if you cant deal with it move to lesotho

Bobby Wo (max), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

i can't wait until wes anderson turns this thread into a movie

pariah carey (Mr. Que), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

He'll have to it in Futura bold.

go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:41 (sixteen years ago)

the fantastic mister fucks

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:41 (sixteen years ago)

ahem, have to do it in Futura bold.

go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:41 (sixteen years ago)

more like

the fucking fantastic fucking mr. max fucking

pariah carey (Mr. Que), Monday, 12 October 2009 15:42 (sixteen years ago)

james and the pliant peach

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:43 (sixteen years ago)

danny, the chamferer of the girls

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:55 (sixteen years ago)

i'll stop now

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 15:55 (sixteen years ago)

esioshit

conrad, Monday, 12 October 2009 16:03 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, its not particularly unique as such, but in terms of animation now it kind of is just because it's different, and charming in that it's not pristine. obv Wes Anderson himself doesnt have any other tricks though.

Irked me primarily with the whole bit about 'Anderson, who know NOTHING of stop motion techniques' insisted on using real fur, animator explains why they dont use that nowadays, anderson explains thats the look he wants - and I can imagine them resisting (lobbying, sorry) - and saying 'yes, but we dont it that way because it causes this effects you see..." "Oh yes, that effect I want?" "BUT WHY" etc

Smacks to me of someone who uses illustrator all the time not understanding why you *wouldnt* want something that looks live traced and all smoothed out. Like they get so in to things looking that way that nobody can see a different way, even if it's an old way because things have *progressed* since then and now they know better.

Fuck progression. I'm also still annoyed because I read a review of an animation (Lilo & Stitch IIRC) that said 'the drawings might look crude and flat to the post-Pixar viewers'. wtf, srsly.

The nation's most valiant right back (Suedey 2), Monday, 12 October 2009 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

Went to sleep to this being read on cassette many a time & would expect this to be an appropriately horrific adaptation, but seems that they're drawling quietly at least.

ogmor, Monday, 12 October 2009 16:29 (sixteen years ago)

Wes Anderson thanks everyone who has helped him:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0120a5ede22a970b-500wi

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 October 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

And more about that kerfluffle earlier.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 October 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

I'm also still annoyed because I read a review of an animation (Lilo & Stitch IIRC) that said 'the drawings might look crude and flat to the post-Pixar viewers'. wtf, srsly.

I miss movies with hand drawn animation.

Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 16 October 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

you're looking forward to the princess and the frog

conrad, Saturday, 17 October 2009 00:14 (sixteen years ago)

Ponyo was nice.

existential eggs (Abbott), Saturday, 17 October 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

rubbish

conrad, Monday, 26 October 2009 00:44 (sixteen years ago)

this was good.

you can have this tapdance here for free (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 13:38 (sixteen years ago)

you're looking forward to the princess and the frog

If Disney never made another princess movie they would still have done way too many.

Otter madness (Nicole), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 13:48 (sixteen years ago)

except that 'enchanted' was awesome.

you can have this tapdance here for free (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 13:55 (sixteen years ago)

this was really rubbish

conrad, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 14:47 (sixteen years ago)


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