Katrina's aftermath

Analysis: When is looting okay?

Searching for former Red Sox pitcher
Name: Dick Bresciani

Phone: 617-226-6710

e-mail: [email protected]

I am a vp of the Boston Red Sox. One of our ex great people and pitchers Mel Parnell lives on 700 Turquoise St. We are unable to reach him by phone and are concerned. Is there any way you can contact him for us? is my direct line. Thank you.

read some interesting stuff about how the government's practice of allowing wetlands to be developed has hurt too, wetlands help stem the tide in nature i guess.

i love it when a plan comes together. go america.

this sucks.

Meanwhile, to give you an idea of what kind of charming people are out there:

Name: Paula Drake

Phone: 630-513-6245

I have as much sympathy as anyone for what you are going through. I have family and friends both in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. But What I am seeing on the news with the looting, shooting at the police, shooting at the people trying to help, really makes me sick. What part of ''You need to get out of town'' did these people not understand? Both the Gov. and mayor told the people that it was going to be a bad storm and they needed to leave. As I tell my children when they talk back to me, ''What part of NO do you not understand, and at 10 and 11 they know where the line is drawn. These people that decided to stay home put not just their lives, but the national guard and the coast guard who then had to go out and try to save them at what cost to the tax payer. Then when they do get picked up they complain about the ''service'' at the dome as if it a hotel. This is a deaster area, they don't get room service. Then when I see the people looting for TVs and racks of clothing I wonder, what are they doing, are they planning a yard sale? I saw a lady yesterday yelling at a newman, ''Its hot here in the projects, and I needs me some water and some food''....I really did expect her to complain about her power being off and her welfare check being late....Give me a break, It sad and its a mess and I will help the in the areas where I can see people trying to help themselves. But I will not help gang members be relocated to another city....If the shoot at a police officer they should be shoot, If they shoot at a gardsman the same.....There should be NO TOLERANCE for this trpe of behavior. I'd sound like a racist if I said this is WHY they needed a master....

Yeah, you would, wouldn't you.

http://theposies.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134

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I'd sound like a racist if I said this is WHY they needed a master....

funny, she didn't really sound like an out-and-out racist until that unfortunate last sentence.

chris from tav falco's panther burns is missing.

ah ok. i didn't realize you could set it for more than 50. thanks.

where was that posted ned?

Thursday, September 01, 2005

House Speaker: Rebuilding N.O. doesn't make sense
Thursday, 2:55 p.m.

By Bill Walsh
Washington bureau

WASHINGTON - House Speaker Dennis Hastert dropped a bombshell on flood-ravaged New Orleans on Thursday by suggesting that it isn’t sensible to rebuild the city.

"It doesn't make sense to me," Hastert told the Daily Herald in suburban Chicago in editions published today. "And it's a question that certainly we should ask."

Hastert's comments came as Congress cut short its summer recess and raced back to Washington to take up an emergency aid package expected to be $10 billion or more. Details of the legislation are still emerging, but it is expected to target critical items such as buses to evacuate the city, reinforcing existing flood protection and providing food and shelter for a growing population of refugees.

The Illinois Republican’s comments drew an immediate rebuke from Louisiana officials.

“That’s like saying we should shut down Los Angeles because it’s built in an earthquake zone,” former Sen. John Breaux, D-La., said. “Or like saying that after the Great Chicago fire of 1871, the U.S. government should have just abandoned the city.”

Hastert said that he supports an emergency bailout, but raised questions about a long-term rebuilding effort. As the most powerful voice in the Republican-controlled House, Hastert is in a position to block any legislation that he opposes.

"We help replace, we help relieve disaster," Hastert said. "But I think federal insurance and everything that goes along with it... we ought to take a second look at that."

The speaker’s comments were in stark contrast to those delivered by President Bush during an appearance this morning on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

“I want the people of New Orleans to know that after rescuing them and stabilizing the situation, there will be plans in place to help this great city get back on its feet,” Bush said. “There is no doubt in my mind that New Orleans is going to rise up again as a great city.”

Insurance industry executives estimated that claims from the storm could range up to $19 billion. Rebuilding the city, which is more than 80 percent submerged, could cost tens of billions of dollars more, experts projected.

Hastert questioned the wisdom of rebuilding a city below sea level that will continue to be in the path of powerful hurricanes.

"You know we build Los Angeles and San Francisco on top of earthquake issures and they rebuild, too. Stubbornness," he said.

Hastert wasn't the only one questioning the rebuilding of New Orleans. The Waterbury, Conn., Republican-American newspaper wrote an editorial Wednesday entitled, "Is New Orleans worth reclaiming?"

"Americans' hearts go out to the people in Katrina's path," it said. "But if the people of New Orleans and other low-lying areas insist on living in harm's way, they ought to accept responsibility for what happens to them and their property."

xpost to that last article

Rap producer Master P's parents and "countless relatives" live in New Orleans, and the family has "lost all of their homes," spokeswoman Donna Torrence said.

On Wednesday, he announced plans for Team Rescue, a relief venture formed by him, his wife, Sonya, and rapper son, Romeo. "My family has set out to save and rebuild our neighborhoods and help our inner-city brothers and sisters who have lost everything in this disaster," he said.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-08-31-katrina-roof-message_x.htm

xpost re:rebuilding: It wouldn't surprise me if the rebuilding push becomes centered on expanding the port and making the entire thing a prefab industrial zone -- it would certainly make sense in terms of being able to integrate the numerous new technologies involved in the screening of cargo.

someplace really fucking boring.

also, tornados, snow storms.

the problem there isn't the natural disasters, but the human disasters.

and flooding

and when the lake caught on fire

west virginia: floods, snow, abject poverty, no miners anymore to start social unrest

and when the lake caught on fire

that was the river.

new ilm thread idea: is randy newman the best disaster songwriter ever?

KENT STATE YO

-- donut gon' nut (do...), September 1st, 2005.

Take control. Be that guy.