Ken vs. Boris: It's So On

internet hardman I like that. Like a tabloid description of [insert poster of choice].

Off-topic, I know, but:

Even if said government explicitly promised "no more boom and bust" repeatedly

Well we haven't had a boom, and we haven't had a bust yet - and almost certainly won't, even in the most negative forecasts - so fine.

Does the housing market not qualify as a boom then?

That'll be £20 to you, guvnor.

You've just vomited in my back seat.

There have been 3 booms and 3 busts during the current labour administration. Or rathe 3x hubris followed by 3x reality and correction.

not as catchy :(

Overall economic boom - there has obviously been a housing one, and could be a crash, although I doubt it - but I had a long and boring fight with laxalt on another thread about that.

Meanwhile, why can't I get a live feed of the betting balloons?

http://betting.betfair.com/mayor/heads-up-boris-leads-the-way-london-marathon-300408.html "> http://betting.betfair.com/mayor/heads-up-boris-leads-the-way-london-marathon-300408.html

There's a nice graph here (if I can do the effing link right).

http://www.economics.strath.ac.uk/julia/teaching/mf/L1_JD.pdf "> http://www.economics.strath.ac.uk/julia/teaching/mf/L1_JD.pdf

Then add four more year's real growth to the right.

Gah

at 9/4 it is almost worth backing Ken.

An exit poll of sorts...
http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1052579

^almost as bad as rickroll

the current data would naturally have bj in the lead, since working people are, well, still working - right?

Working people vote Boris too, though.

Would it be justified to go through my Facebook friends list and indiscriminately defriend everyone whose status update reads 'Vote Boris' or suchlike?

I think that would show a high discriminating and upstanding character.

i did the same for anyone who mourned jol, so yeah i guess.

Do it now!

DC, if anyone you know feels that way ... well ... how did you get friends like that in the first place?

Would it be justified to go through my Facebook friends list and indiscriminately defriend everyone whose status update reads 'Vote Boris' or suchlike?

no. i might do the same thing. several people on mine (hello at least two posters on this thread) are sporting some violently anti-boris ones. so am i.

I suspect some of mine are pro-Boris so I'm trying to goad them into revealing themselves and defriending me

anti-boris status updates: 6 (7 including self).

pro-boris: none.

that's reassuring.

Think I'm 5-0, not sure about this fuckin clown though:

Lou1s Jagger
YAAAAH BORIS YAAAAH.
Updated about a minute ago

Does facebook have an application where you can send painful electric shocks through a user's mouse yet?

I stopped bothering with the anti-Boris count when it got to 20, pro-Boris count is 9 or 10. The pro-Borisers are all people I went to school with - when you consider my school was about 90% working class kids from around Lewisham, I worry what this might say about a possible flight of working class votes to the Tories.

This is probably not a solid bedrock from which to begin making statistical projections, admittedly.

essex is our texas <--- jacques perreti on the barrymore doc last night

essex, brrrrr

lol easy target

If anyone on my fbk was pro-BJ I would cut them off.

I was just thinking about the apparent difference between me and DC earlier. Really, I think we agree. He said: it will be bad if BJ gets in and succeeds, rather than buffoonishly fails. I agree. My expectation is that he *will* succeed - on his own terms, not mine (or DC's?). So has W, so did Maggie, etc - these people are not considered failures by their own side, but heroes. I think BJ will be hailed as doing very well the things he wants to do - a mixture of reactionary things, cutting back progressive things, sucking up to certain interests, and ego-tripping.

I think that the 'word' 'LOL' is nowadays misused on ilx (probably elsewhere) - surely you should save it for things that actually make you laugh? Not just for things that are silly, misguided, mildly ironic or whatever.

Oh well.

When ilx started we didn't have terms like that, and most people wrote posts in paragraphs; nowadays a great many are one word or one short line. ilx has changed; perhaps other things have changed too.

don't worry guys, i've single handedly fucked up the pro-boris campaign. when they were handing out boris badges,they were like 'vote boris on 1st may' and i was like "OK!" and took a badge, but really i wasn't going to, so they've one fewer badge to give out, PLUS they're probably all chillaxing now thinking THEY HAVE MY VOTE, BUT THEY DON'T. MWAHAHAHHA

The suburbs shouldn't have been given the vote. Or there should have been two separate elections and they could have had all the Toryism they want and leave the city to be governed as it should be.

ken c, striking a blow for the common man.

don't worry guys, i've single handedly fucked up the pro-boris campaign

i'm sure i've regaled you with the wonderful story of how a couple of dudes from my school volunteered to do some campaigning for a tory candidate in blackpool in the early 1990s.

they drove around town for a couple of hours in a vauxhall nova plastered with VOTE TORY posters, shouting: "YOU ARE ALL CUNTS! WE ARE TORIES AND WE BUGGER BABIES! FUCK YOU ALL!" and so on.

happy days.

Normal for Blackpool, though.

i'd vote for a candidate with that honesty tho

Oh well, if we wake up tomorrow and it's 1958, we'll know whose fault it was and we'll hunt them out.

Pinefox - I'm glad you agree we agree. I wonder how serious a mess Boris (or any Mayor really) can actually make of London before their powers are curbed by central government. Ken has had additional powers given to him over the years as the govt got more comfortable with him being there - can Labour get away with narrowing Boris's remit without causing a storm?

Of course, there's a bad organising type of mess, and there's the sort of mess where you say such embarassing things that your party leadership goes into blind panic. I suspect the latter is more likely.

When ilx started we didn't have terms like that, and most people wrote posts in paragraphs; nowadays a great many are one word or one short line. ilx has changed; perhaps other things have changed too.

It used to be all fields around London too. Increasing population, urbanisation, etc...like London, like ILx.

we used to bury the dead where Ask Chaki! stands now

maybe London has to take a hit for the team? ie if ken wins, it may not help labour back on a national level, but w Boris as mayor fuxoring it up, :-/

Are the undead rising up in Ask Chaki? (xpost)

the bile is rising certainly

The Primaries thread has started up again. We need new things to say...

Any exit polls on this?

I was about to start a 'Jim vs Maggie: It's So On' thread in the style of Kennedy assassination thread from a few months back, but thought it would just be too depressing.

i'm sure we'll all be 'liveblogging' the election show later

I only have one pro-Boris update on my Facebook friends, but since that guy has actually stood for election as a Tory, not surprising. And he doesn't live in London anyway. But also only 1 pro-Ken. So statistically not far off current polls.

xpost * 1000

I've got one for Paddick as well amid all the furore and I immediately though 'awww bless', which I suspect was not the effect she was aiming for.

maybe London has to take a hit for the team? ie if ken wins, it may not help labour back on a national level, but w Boris as mayor fuxoring it up, :-/

will surely make no real difference either way to the general election