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Not at the Oscars, though! I mean, the last time the underdog won Best Picture was Shakespeare in Love in 1998 -- and in that case, it had the momentum of having been released at the end of the year, whereas Saving Private Ryan was a summer film. What's weird about Brokeback losing is that it lost to a movie that was released last spring and that no one was really even talking about until it started getting some recent awards buzz.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Strange days have found us.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Good, I'm glad you made it home.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, can you elucidate your "John:high heels::Amanda:Oscars" analogy? You don't find the Oscars attractive but love high heels, whereas I don't find high heels attractive but love the Oscars? Or is there more nuance to it than that?
Unfortunately, I have very little nuance to offer. You think heels are overrated, boring, predictable and stupid. (Right?) That's how I feel about the Oscars. Booooooring to watch people congratulate themselves.

HOWEVER, I enjoyed staring at Michelle Williams and her mustard-colored dress for couple of seconds. She looked lovely.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Crash was the only nominee I've seen, and while there were things I liked about it, it doesn't seem like a "best picture". Or maybe it does.

It seemed weird that the same five movies were up for everything, esp. Walk the Line and Geisha (which I don't think anyone actually saw?).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

i did the unbelievable saturday night, i paid $10 for a pack of smokes at the hideout. TEN DOLLARS. that works out to $.50 per smoke. that is insane.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

You think heels are overrated, boring, predictable and stupid. (Right?) That's how I feel about the Oscars.

OMG We're like SISTERS!!!!!!!1111one

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Goody! I always wanted a sister.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

You think heels are overrated, boring, predictable and stupid. (Right?)

No, I just don't find them attractive: they're too indicative of the artifice of womanliness.

I like the Oscars because I like cultural phenomena. And statistics. And making fun of celebrities.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh, ok - well I guess it was a bad analogy then. Sorey.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

And get this- someone cleaned out the fridge and threw my soup away! The soup I was going to eat for lunch today. Boo!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

The Oscars are pretty indicative of the "artifice of womanliness".

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Why don't we say that about men? Artifice of manliness?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southampton/footballfirst/scrapbook/images/miller_mugshot_150.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

I tend to find the Oscars boring and predictible and infuriating, too, but I watched the entire ceremony last night (maybe for the first time ever) in part, I think, becuase I really wanted to go to N&S's and was upset that I had work to do instead. (Yes, I watched while reading for class. No, that's neither a good way to watch TV nor to prepare for class.) I generally enjoyed it, even though I covered my ears for some of the speeches since I got embarassed for the people.

Also, what was up with all the anti-DVD talk? Was that all about Steven Soderbergh?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:08 (twenty years ago)

I scrolled down too fast and thought I saw that guy's moustache twitching.

We can talk about the artifice of manliness, if you want. I think it exists, although maybe in less obvious ways, since so much female artifice has to do with clothes and makeup.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:11 (twenty years ago)

I think we should define terms before we discuss, just to make sure we're all on the same page. Are artifices of gender things we wear/display to announce and reinforce our gender, based on societal concepts man/woman?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

I SAID "MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE."

My life is a lie.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I usually wear pants. When I'm not wearing pants, chances are I'm in my bathrobe or asleep.

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

OR GETTIN' IT ON

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

STRAIGHT NOGGIN' IT

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, you know what I'm talkin about

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I felt horrible for Lauren Bacall. She is so beautiful and smart.. but didn't wear her glasses! Come on, woman! Be strong! Glasses are beautiful too!

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)

Is that what her problem was? I felt bad for her, too. She is one of my favorite "classic" actresses. I thought she was just old and shaky.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I felt bad for the woman (don't know who she was, some "normal" woman who won for screenwriting or tech or something) who had a big lipstick smooch on her face, and then got cut off right when she started to speak. It was her big moment and she was probably all embarassed when she saw the tape.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Hey, the Oscar shorts are showing at the Siskel this week. Might go tonight.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:35 (twenty years ago)

I felt horrible for Lauren Bacall. She is so beautiful and smart.. but didn't wear her glasses!

i assumed that she was wearing the goggles.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Submit that signifiers of manliness are in doing/being, while those of womanliness are in looking/appearing. Ie to be a "real man" one should be financially/professionally successful and able to support family; remain in control of emotions at all times; etc etc etc.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Come back with reviews, Eazy!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

I'm looking forward to Martin McDonagh's 'Six Shooter' (also the short that one last night). He's a great playwright - I didn't know 'til the New Yorker profile last week that he wrote all of his plays in 9 months in 1994 and hasn't written any since.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)

I saw one ('Cashback') last week online and thought it was kinda dumb. Very well-done and professional, yes, and it DID have gratuitous nudity, but still.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)

I forgot to tell you guys something! Dan's friend from IA is Ge0rge R0m3ro's manager (in some capacity) and GR was here for a horror convention and D. totally got to hang out with GR in his hotel room. How cool is that? I thought the horror buffs among us would be amused. He (GR) had bronchitis and felt like crap, but managed to make it through the q&a and hundreds of fan-people.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)

No Grizzlyman, no cred.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)

And Wilderness rocks.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

That is REALLY COOL, Amanda. I bet Maddie would have wanted to go to that convention had she known.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Isn't that neat? He got a photo with him and everything, with the crazy glasses and him being all 8 feet tall. I didn't get to go, since I was in class. :(

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Did he get any anecdotes or gossip?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, well -- mostly they talked about his ailments, I think. Also, GR was disappointed by King Kong. That's not exactly breaking news though.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Ha, okay. We started watching Day of the Dead the other night, to be followed by the completely unauthorized and awful-looking DAY OF THE DEAD 2: CONTAGION.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Ok, this just in from Dan:
George also discussed how the Dead series might end, although Dan said that he (G) was lukewarm about the idea: Zombies and humans make peace.

Imagine that! Also, he "has a few more zombie movies in him." The end.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but I thought it was hilarious and a little relevant to the Oscar talk above:

Walker, Brokeback Ranger

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

They should collaborate on Sheriff Versus The Zombies.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, that IS good zombie gossip.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

i don't really care about zombie movies, but leaf does. also: i love the phrase "zombie gossip."

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Band name!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 19:47 (twenty years ago)

I think it sounds better as an album title than a band name, but yeah!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 6 March 2006 20:14 (twenty years ago)

The new Zombie Gossip album is Sexual Ethical Advice: Virgin Involved.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 6 March 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

I've decided that the only way to deal with getting an award and keep your dignity is to not show up (a la Woody Allen), turn it down (a la George C. Scott), or turn it down in a totally ridiculous show of absurdity (a la Marlon Brando). Everyone else can just stop pretending like they're an "artist."

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 6 March 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)

i suspect that there is a dwindling number of people that care about dignity in the first place.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Monday, 6 March 2006 20:38 (twenty years ago)

But they are artists. A lot of them, anyway.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 6 March 2006 20:39 (twenty years ago)

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