― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)
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― Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)
(Some young whippersnapper cut in front of me in the bus queue, even though there were only 5 people in it, but fortunately like most small hooligans he made a beeline for the back, so the choice seat was mine.)
― Masonic Boom (kate), Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)
― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)
this typo above made me laugh.
― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 28 July 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)
Well spotted N_RQ !
Any of you here at all concerned that these supposed suicide bombers bought return train tickets, pay and display tickets, carried all their personal documentation on them. Hardly the way of a die hard suicide bomber is it, appears they expected to be going home.
Woner why they didn't blow up their bombs somewhere far more crowded, surely any trained Jihadist would of wanted to go for mass casualties right? why then a subway train carriage, sealed by steel and seperated from other carriages? don't very smart was it?
Do you find it odd that the media originally told us the explosives were of military design and later changed that to homemade?! quite a big leap don't you think? were the Forensic scientist's new hires do you suppose or perhaps drunk or hire on life?
How did the 'police' manage to decide, from the thoudands upon thousands of CCTV footage and thousands upon thousands of commutors who were the bombers and who were not?
In fact what actual Proof do you have there were any bombers at all?
What do you make of this eye witness claiming the bomb was UNDER the train and not, as suggested, in a rucksack or being carried and/or supervised by an 'asian' man?
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/region_wide/2005/07/11/83e33146-09af-4421-b2f4-1779a86926f9.lpf
Questions questions questions. Never assume anything. It makes and ASS out of U and ME
Your friend,
― Philip Howe, Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
You're nuts
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)
If they weren't expecting to die then that's extraordinary naivety/delusion/arroganc for all four of them to not expect to be caught - unless that was also the intention.
Going back to the shooting, because a lot of people at the time thought it odd that someone involved in the bomb attempts would still be in the capital the next day, what exactly was the logic/intelligence the police were working from when pursuing de Menezes?
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)
Pick that one out of the back of the net!
Also, were they day return tickets or seven day return tickets, or perhaps even open returns, despite the increased cost? Because if they don't coincide with the alleged seven day parking ticket, I smell a rat.
2-0!
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)
not to mention the scientific credibilities of the media.
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)
Did they get a groupsave and get 4 tickets for the price of 2?
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)
― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)
I love the way that when the media were reporting that the explosives were military-style, you jumped on it as proof that it was arranged by the government. Then, after the story changed, you, um, jumped on it as proof that it was arranged by the government.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)
Toby said:-
'you seem to know an awful lot about the mindset of suicide bombers. '
Well Toby such is the wonders of education and historical study, tends to teach you things you might not of previously known.
Anyone with even a general understanding of Suicide bombers is well aware of the traits by which you can identifiy them. All of which are sadly lacking in the persona's of these patsies.
Above all else you should find it very odd that they left no record, no suicide note, no proud declaration to Islam, no nothing. I repeat nothing. There is evidence that they were double crossed by a mastermind, now does that sound like the kind of thing a Fundamentalist mastermind does to a fellow Muslim? absolutely not. It is however exactly the way of a Black Ops, i.e. M15/MI6. Many of you are perhaps to young to remember that the MI5 were caught many times planting bombs, blowing things up, and trying to blame it on the IRA.
State sponsored terrorism is about as old as the wheel. One of the oldest and most used political tactics in history, but again, A study of history would be required to know this. Might I suggest starting with the Reichstag fire, Hitler's own act of state sponsored terror ultimately gave him bot the power and support he required to launch his nefarious agenda.
We cannot afford to know the truth retroactively this time around. By then it may be too late.
― Philip Howe, Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)
i mean, it'd be dumb to buy a single ticket from luton, and THEN queue up for FUCKING AGES at kings cross at rush hour behind some tourist dude, trying to get a travelcard, when you have a bomb in your rucksack, is it?
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)
All the dead people? The bus ripped open like a fucking bean can?
Never assume anything. It makes and ASS out of U and METhere is no I in TEAM, but there's a U in CUNT.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)
why would MI5 / MI6 /the government / the royal family / whoever *want* to blow up buses and trains in london? i mean, what would they have to gain?
― michael grant (michael digby grant), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)
p.s. blue england football tops peterhttp://www.englandfootballonline.com/images/Uniforms/EngUnif1996A.jpg
and this yummy one
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― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)
Hahah! So, what evidence is there that the Nazis started the Reichstag fire?
(note to people with no knowledge of German History: there isn't any. The Reichstag burning down was very convenient for Hitler, but what little evidence is available about it points to it having being started by a lone far-left nutter; and certainly to Hitler being surprised by it)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)
I'll fill you in. It didn't happen. Unless you're a mentalist.
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)
― Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)
er, that stuff that was posted on that website?
what you have to remember is that being a suicide bomber is a one-shot kind of deal, you don't have previous experience and you can't create patterns.
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)
― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)
(actually, he said "no nothing" which, as any fule kno, is something. Accept the truth!!)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)
he lived in the same block of flats that one of the bombers lived in. that's it.
(hahahaha kidding -- actually he was a high-level mossad agent who was about to take the story overground; the spetznatz agents who whomped him HAD to shut him down)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)
Rump roast?
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)
If one of the bombers lived there, why hasn't anyone from that building been arrested?
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)