i think being a true stann means looking past his depiction of ali as a person and just marveling at how the movie looks - anyway i think it's obv that he thought that getting into who ali really was would distract from he really wanted the film to be - now obv i totally understand how that can turn people off but i really loved it
― autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 October 2009 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link
damn
http://www.etsy.com/shop/FatEyes?section_id=6557913
― jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link
poll
― goole, Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link
lol mario van peebles as malcolm x - not sure if thats more or less absurd than smith as ali - btw my dad has a treasured pic of himself w/cassius clay in that v gym while he was training for the liston fight
xp to ali open youtube
― SMH (ice cr?m), Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i dont remember what i voted for but i hope it was mohicans cuz that shit owwwwns
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
william peterson is worst dude btw
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
u suck
― max, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
watch manhunter and to live and die in l.a. back to back and tell me he isnt the most unlikeable creepy manchild to ever... exist
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
it works more in to live and die in l.a. because he's supposed to be a total creep.
― jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link
the characters in both movies are supposed to be totally unlikeable!!!
― max, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link
also how can u hate a guy who starred in 2 of the best noir movies of the 80s AND the greatest american procedural of the 2000s
― max, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i know i know, i'm just saying he is unpleasant to watch! even if that is the point
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i have never watched csi tbqh
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
mannhunter=best
― SMH (ice cr?m), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
marg helgenberger ftw
― jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
csi is great
― max, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
he's not meant to be unlikeable in manhunter! he's just supposed to have.. defects. i love him in that film. LOVE him. tell me he's not brilliant in that scene in the supermarket. sensitive too!
― piscesx, Thursday, 19 November 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
in terms of cop show aesthetics csi is to the 00s what miami vice was to the 80s... otherwise the shows arent really at all the same
double tam making want to revist all the mann movies - havent seen mohicans or insider in so long - nice to see you can sb ppl for shit they sd in 2007 tho
generally agree w/ the poll results but i havent seen ali
― Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link
i appreciate william petersen a lot more now than i did then... he's amazing in to live and die in LA... i think what creeped me out were the scenes where he was supposed to be like, sexy... he was all rubbing his torso and shit... kinda weird
def need to revisit the insider
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd rank Thief above ali and the keep, though it's pretty crude compared to his later stuff
the keep is so weird, havent seen it in forevs but i have to respect any movie that tries to make scott glenn an action hero
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link
write-in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6joglwxWuo
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Tags:nike football tv television commercial ad advertisement michael mann shawn merriman steven jackson mohicans epic boner
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:17 (thirteen years ago) link
seeing william peterson's dick was kinda the most unexpected aspect of to live and die in l.a. tbqf.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link
'manhunter' is the one i like the least although my memory is too weak to really articulate much - i remember it felt blocky and i guess ponderous - never really crystalized for me i guess.
the unheralded mann that id rep for is 'robbery homicide divsion' which probably doesnt count but is an interesting 'transition' + just a p enjoyable cop show.
― Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i dug robbery homicide division - it didnt last long but it had some cool crappy-looking DV photography and tom sizemore and the jowly black guy - unforch i got into the Wire a few months after it ended and i could never look at it the same again
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link
'manhunter' is kinda dated and the basic premise of this preternaturally gifted detective chasing a serial killer is a little cheesy, but it works for the most part for me because of the acting and the fact that it's fairly creepy. i like the scenes near the beginning w/peterson going through the house, and we never see the bodies nor the killings, just the crime scene. pretty effective. stephen lang in full-on simpering douchebag mode before he started to age into a ripped-up middle age tough guy.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link
also: stephen lang etc
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:28 (thirteen years ago) link
manhunter has an ill soundtrack, too
― max, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i think Manhunter must've been shot on a shitty film stock or something (this was a problem for a lot of 80s movies) because something about the look of it always left me wanting
still like Silence more tbh
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link
silence is better yeah, i think i went back and forth on that for awhile but i saw it again recently and it's this nasty unpleasant movie that's also just really pretty dope and incredibly entertaining.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:36 (thirteen years ago) link
probably didn't help it in my memory that hopkins ran that character into the ground.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:37 (thirteen years ago) link
silence is stone cold amazing, am willing to concede my opinion of manhunter is p worthless but i still cant credit ppl who claim its the best harris adaptation
― Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:37 (thirteen years ago) link
im not even a hopkins fan and am p tired of That Character, but fortunately Silence's dopeness lies in many different areas, such as the Ted Levine area and the Goodbye Horses area
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:39 (thirteen years ago) link
and yeah, just a mega entertaining movie
silence is better than manhunter for sure. i guess manhunter is underrated in non-ilx circles tho.
― max, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link
hopkins gets all the credit but jodie foster just effing crushes it in that movie
and tony heald obv
― max, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I likned to this way above, but I do love the fake trailer Mann made for Mercedes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoCLxp2W9xE
― An Artily Shot Sesame Street (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 07:00 (thirteen years ago) link
whoa, tara's alcoholic mom from True Blood is in that mercedes ad!
kind of amazing that del toro hasnt been in a mann movie yet, come to think of it
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 07:07 (thirteen years ago) link
feel like hopkins retroactively ruined his performance or maybe it was just martin amis but his scenes w/ foster theyre both completely n/l. foster is amazing throughout tho, agreed
― Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 07:30 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah they kill it together, all of their scenes have that crazy psycho/romantic/sexual/etc tension that must have been so stupid in the script but is riveting on screen
― max, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 07:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm sort of surprised at how few of these I've actually seen esp since I love Heat and Collateral. Miami Vice thread making me curious enough that I'm going to watch it tonight. Also Max/Lamp otm re Foster and Hopkins. Watched that again recently and was pretty blown away by just how good they both are together.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Have you seen The Insider, E.? That's my vote for his best.
― An Artily Shot Sesame Street (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Nope. I've actually only seen the two I mentioned. Probably gonna be housebound due to snow for the next couple days so might try to squeeze in a couple of these.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I've only seen Heat and Collateral. Heat deserves all the plaudits, while Collateral is somewhere agonisingly between a fun friday-night thriller and a more traditionally 'good' movie. Something like that..
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm also very intrigued about MV being basically panned on its release, yet resuscitated as this 00s lost classic. There's obviously something to it being the more recent Mann critical consensus rather than Collateral or Public Enemies..
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
has it really been reappraised anywhere outside ilx tho? was it in many best of decade lists?
― caek, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Totally....it's high on Slant, Film Comment and possibly a couple of others.
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link