The Michael Mann poll

A Hollywood guy I know told me how Heat, after being lukewarm at the box office, is a favorite of all the studio guys in their 20s/30s who saw it in their formative years. I was asking him why it was on TV all the time and Blue Thunder never is.

5 votes for manhunter fuckin seriously guys

0 votes for Thief is worse.

manhunter is clearly a TRANSCENDENT FUCKING AWESOME MOVIE THE BEST ONE HE EVER MADE then the insider then miamivice heat and collateral - and obvs miami vice the tv show shouldve be included here cause want to talk abt some art work lets talk abt that

theif is cool but its somewhat formative mann trying to mix gritty realistic 70s vibe w/sweet high tension michael mann shit - the scene w/jim belushi lookin over the billboard ready to snipe is super bomb tho

u should make a movie called stanhunter

the scene w/jim belushi lookin over the billboard ready to snipe is super bomb tho

For pure Chicago location thrills, there's that early scene with sunrise on the lakefront, and then at the end he blows up the Green Mill. Rock.

Also, Jimmy Caan.

manhunter sucks guys. red dragon is much better! rattner! rattner! rattner!

*fake challops*

He just tends to inspire the kind of acting that bugs the shit out of me.

axtually i kinda agree, but i'm not sure how to put into words.

an example i mean, not the fact that i kinda agree

Ali was just a disaster. Smith had no fucking idea who his character was and just settled for a bizarrely muted impression, and the narrative was painfully boring.

All Mann's other films are must see though.

Heat would easily be his best movie, and perhaps one of the greatest films ever, if it weren't for the awful Pacino performance. But when his character isn't on screen, the movie is fantastic. Strangely enough, Pacino was actually good in The Insider.

The opening sure works, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STDo6Z5YJa4

i think being a true stann means looking past his depiction of ali as a person and just marveling at how the movie looks - anyway i think it's obv that he thought that getting into who ali really was would distract from he really wanted the film to be - now obv i totally understand how that can turn people off but i really loved it

damn

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lol mario van peebles as malcolm x - not sure if thats more or less absurd than smith as ali - btw my dad has a treasured pic of himself w/cassius clay in that v gym while he was training for the liston fight

xp to ali open youtube

i dont remember what i voted for but i hope it was mohicans cuz that shit owwwwns

william peterson is worst dude btw

u suck

watch manhunter and to live and die in l.a. back to back and tell me he isnt the most unlikeable creepy manchild to ever... exist

it works more in to live and die in l.a. because he's supposed to be a total creep.

the characters in both movies are supposed to be totally unlikeable!!!

also how can u hate a guy who starred in 2 of the best noir movies of the 80s AND the greatest american procedural of the 2000s

i know i know, i'm just saying he is unpleasant to watch! even if that is the point

i have never watched csi tbqh

mannhunter=best

marg helgenberger ftw

csi is great

he's not meant to be unlikeable in manhunter! he's just supposed to have.. defects. i love him in that film. LOVE him. tell me he's not brilliant in that scene in the supermarket. sensitive too!

in terms of cop show aesthetics csi is to the 00s what miami vice was to the 80s... otherwise the shows arent really at all the same

double tam making want to revist all the mann movies - havent seen mohicans or insider in so long - nice to see you can sb ppl for shit they sd in 2007 tho

generally agree w/ the poll results but i havent seen ali

i appreciate william petersen a lot more now than i did then... he's amazing in to live and die in LA... i think what creeped me out were the scenes where he was supposed to be like, sexy... he was all rubbing his torso and shit... kinda weird

def need to revisit the insider

i'd rank Thief above ali and the keep, though it's pretty crude compared to his later stuff

the keep is so weird, havent seen it in forevs but i have to respect any movie that tries to make scott glenn an action hero

write-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6joglwxWuo

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seeing william peterson's dick was kinda the most unexpected aspect of to live and die in l.a. tbqf.

'manhunter' is the one i like the least although my memory is too weak to really articulate much - i remember it felt blocky and i guess ponderous - never really crystalized for me i guess.

the unheralded mann that id rep for is 'robbery homicide divsion' which probably doesnt count but is an interesting 'transition' + just a p enjoyable cop show.

yeah i dug robbery homicide division - it didnt last long but it had some cool crappy-looking DV photography and tom sizemore and the jowly black guy - unforch i got into the Wire a few months after it ended and i could never look at it the same again

'manhunter' is kinda dated and the basic premise of this preternaturally gifted detective chasing a serial killer is a little cheesy, but it works for the most part for me because of the acting and the fact that it's fairly creepy. i like the scenes near the beginning w/peterson going through the house, and we never see the bodies nor the killings, just the crime scene. pretty effective. stephen lang in full-on simpering douchebag mode before he started to age into a ripped-up middle age tough guy.

also: stephen lang etc

manhunter has an ill soundtrack, too

i think Manhunter must've been shot on a shitty film stock or something (this was a problem for a lot of 80s movies) because something about the look of it always left me wanting

still like Silence more tbh

silence is better yeah, i think i went back and forth on that for awhile but i saw it again recently and it's this nasty unpleasant movie that's also just really pretty dope and incredibly entertaining.

probably didn't help it in my memory that hopkins ran that character into the ground.

silence is stone cold amazing, am willing to concede my opinion of manhunter is p worthless but i still cant credit ppl who claim its the best harris adaptation

im not even a hopkins fan and am p tired of That Character, but fortunately Silence's dopeness lies in many different areas, such as the Ted Levine area and the Goodbye Horses area

and yeah, just a mega entertaining movie

silence is better than manhunter for sure. i guess manhunter is underrated in non-ilx circles tho.

hopkins gets all the credit but jodie foster just effing crushes it in that movie

and tony heald obv

I likned to this way above, but I do love the fake trailer Mann made for Mercedes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoCLxp2W9xE