WTF?: "Seinfeld"'s Michael 'Kramer' Richards in Weird-o-Rama Onstage Meltdown

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xpost to gear Oh, so do I. I keep rethinking it, and I've watched the video three or four times trying to parse what happened, and mayyyybe there's a way around the charge of racial hatred if all he'd done was call disruptive crowd members a racially charged name. It would be wildly inappropriate of him to say such things as a white man, but mayybe... maybe he's just a little nuts. But it's the lynching reference that gets me every time. That's just incredible, and it's where this rant apparently starts.

― Noilly Prat (kenan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

and boy, i go traipsing around a cave for the weekend and this happens, what's next?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

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and sucked out every ounce of comic potential

That had been done for us, I think. There's nothing funny about it... that's kind of the problem.

― Noilly Prat (kenan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

I am waiting for the macacalypse.

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

i can't really believe there are people that think this should be illegal, no matter how offensive it is.

it's an extreme response, i admit. and i don't actually like myself for thinking it. but someone (lurker? jaymc? can't remember!) asked how to make racism TOTALLY societally unacceptable, and right now that's the only way i can think of.

i mean, the alternative - fight soi-disant "free speech" with more discussion and dialogue - is fine as long as EVERY FUCKER is condemning richards for what he said, and doing it LOUDLY AND PUBLICLY AND CONSTANTLY SO EVERYONE ELSE CAN HEAR.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

xpost hahahaha

― Noilly Prat (kenan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

asked how to make racism TOTALLY societally unacceptable, and right now that's the only way i can think of

I don't know, dude. Watching video like this might be a step in the right direction. Even if he's not prosecuted, he's already being run out of Hollywood on a rail. Which is a more fitting justice, really.

― Noilly Prat (kenan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

Take it to I Love Utopian States dudes.

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

Jailing people for expressing offensive thoughts is so extremely slippery a slope even penguins would fall off.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

Just as it is important to look behind the mask of a comedian like Red Skelton and to see the heart of a great man

I would expect to see a red skeleton.

― I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

-- grimly fiendish (simonmai...), November 22nd, 2006 1:02 AM. (grimlord) (later)

that is fucking retarded. there's no such thing as free speech if everyone's saying the same thing.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

THAT'S UNCALLED FOR!

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

stfu, dickcheese.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

But it's the lynching reference that gets me every time. That's just incredible, and it's where this rant apparently starts.

Notably, though, this is only the nail in the coffin in retrospect. The audience clearly laughs at the "fork in the ass" comment. It's not until he pulls out the n-word, and DRIVES IT INTO THE GROUND, the the audience as a whole turns on him. Hmmm.

― Noilly Prat (kenan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

But still, nabisco obviously OTM. He was angry, he looked at his assailants, decided to improvise, and seeing as how they were black immediately came up with something to the effect of, "I wish I could lynch you." Holy fucking shit.

― Noilly Prat (kenan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

i still like the "that's what happens" line ... 'cause apparently what "happens" is the interrupted white man will commit career suicide.

― literalisp (literalisp), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

i assume he hasn't yet explained exactly what it was they said that riled him so much?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

"what it was they said" is this thread's "who is Wayne, really?"

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

zinedine zidane to thread.

― literalisp (literalisp), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

so, you know, just say the word, and i'll kill this thread in five minutes flat.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

i am for this.

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

that's all i need to hear.

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― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

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also: i've got a guy telling me that this whole thing was premeditated, Kaufmanesque shenanigans. Right down to the weird, awkward apology.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think making something totally socially unacceptable is a pretty good way to try to reduce it towards zero but it also makes it a bigger lure for the antisocial in inclination. Which I think might have played a role here.

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i've got a guy telling me that this whole thing was premeditated, Kaufmanesque shenanigans. Right down to the weird, awkward apology.

Crossed my mind for about 2 seconds. Not again.

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― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

"Do you come with the coffin?"

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

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