Boulder the "most liberal city" in Colorado?

He's like Kramer in that he always walks in uninvited and is just kind of...there...he's unlike Kramer in that he's never funny, ever.

looool

is boulder just a bunch of crusty hippy "spiritual" types and college kids?

zs maybe you could seek advice from gary during next week's episode of car concerns

I don't know what the hell is going on here. I'm in Boulder, CO living with halfassed stoner (they only smoke spliffs, WTF) college kids - and somehow I'm sitting on a couch arguing with this kid that says China is 50 miles off the coast of Florida, drilling diagonally toward the U.S., drilling our oil. I understand what he's saying, it's a false rumor Cheney helped spread a few days ago, but when I explain what's actually is going on his eyes glaze toward the tv and no one responds. We're all watching some sort of extreme wrestling thing where one fighter is jabbing his elbow into the other guys temple, repeatedly, and they're both covered with blood. Nooooooo

xp Gary's all I got in this goddamned world.

whoa, wtf ZS? Your housing situation sounds fucked. Fuck those people, go take some walks somewhere beautiful; get away from those eyes glazed-over beer pong-playing dudes staring at tv with conspiracy theories dancing around in their heads

lol "just like Kramer" guy

Someone's describing Boulder, all right

That's the thing though, I spend nearly all of my free time either up in the trails in the mountains or at a coffeeshop called the Laughing Goat. But I can't spend ALL of my time away from home. I still have to come back to eat, and then hang out until I'm finally tired enough to go to bed. I can't make enemies of these fools because they're all I've got. If I get antagonistic with them I will literally have no friends. And I don't have a car, so I need someone to take me to get groceries.

Occasionally I come across someone who isn't completely braindead and I want to hold onto their leg and say "Please talk to me. Can we please drink wine and talk about something? Anything?". But I doubt that's socially acceptable.

Ah, well that's cool-- it sounds like you are making some wise use of your time! But I understand what you're saying...

I doubt that's socially acceptable

Yeah, but it's probably worth trying some variation of that! I would. Seriously.

I do hope your roomies are like, "And he didn't even want to watch wrestling, but he drunkenly animated a picture of vaginas in about 15 minutes."

So far, I've adopted the strategy of hoping that someone at the coffeeshop will notice that I am always browsing interesting and hilarious websites, and think I'm cool and talk to me. And that they wouldn't be crazy.

"New lows reached at Boulder coffeeshop - no one notices"

That's another thing. They don't think that stuff like that is funny AT ALL. wtf? My roommate couldn't even watch A.I. because it was "too weird" (and this was waaaay before it got weird at all).

But, but...Jude Law IS Lover Robot!

meet some hot chick from craigslist and spend your nights hanging out at her place

I imagine that would piss my girlfriend off quite a bit!

Everything would possibly be ok if I could just play videogames or something. But no. Playing the DS is "gay", obviously.

HOW CAN WE GET YOU TO DENVER????

i think i need to come to boulder on friday night and save you from beer pong. however, i dont drink wine. is this a problem?

I could take the bus (the BX, I think) from Boulder to Denver, no problem.

We should do that! On Friday, c'mon!

SURE
either/or!
i am going to be up at my parents house on friday afternoon (they live in Greeley) so Boulder is totally on the way back home for me if you don't feel like taking the bus.
OR, I can see how you wanna get outta that place.

i don't think i've ever posted on this board (i'm more of an ILM guy), but i live in Longmont, which is about 20 minutes east of Boulder, and I can't say enough good things about it. I lived in Boulder for close to two years before moving out here and agree with a lot of the problems mentioned on this thread. Longmont -- or at least the neighborhood I'm in -- is quite lovely. Old, affordable homes! An awesome cheese shop! Lots of cool neighbors! Fewer (or, not any) CU students! Those mountains! COME TO LONGMONT.

that said, boulder does have plenty to recommend it -- namely some very good beer.

longmont's beer is lacking for the most part.

Longmont also has that Macdonalds with the choo-choo

And the TWIN PEAKS MALL

yes, the mont is all twin peaksed out. twin peaks church! scary. longmont also has some of the best mexican food i've found in colorado.

^^ no freaking way

is a mound of guac standard taco topping in CO or is that just an Albertaco thing?
can someone briefly say why The Springs is so bad and hated? Got family there but haven't been there for 20 years other than brief pass-thrus/stopping at Garden of the Gods/horrible sushi experience.

no freaking way to the mexican food or the twin peaks church / mall?

No freaking way to the Mexican! Or, I mean ... are you just comparing to northern Colorado, or have you eaten down south and you're still going with Longmont? I have a hard time believing Mexican in Longmont has surpassed what you get down around/past Pueblo.

Colorado Springs is largely bad and hated for being intensely conservative/evangelical, and having served for a long time as a center for lots of varieties of huge right-wing religious groups who want to focus on your family. It has self-consciously whitebread ideas sometimes, possibly due to fear of Mexicans; possibly due to its geography being somewhat deformed and disconnected in ways that completely blast any notion of human beings living in a community with one another, partly due to weird land speculation that went BOOM during the 80s savings-and-loan scandal; also possibly due to the Air Force Academy and NORAD being nearby. Also lots of people are weird. Also the Mexican food is not as good as it is further south, though if you live further south the Springs is a good place to go for bigger malls, with Chick-Fil-As. In sum, Colorado Springs is weird and conservative and creates a weird liberal enclave/prison around Colorado College, but on the plus side, the stretches of I-25 leading out of it are very pretty and worth driving on.

yeah, i guess i would amend that to best mexican food on the front range (boulder, denver, ft. collins etc.). Actually have spent next to no time at all down south, though I'm planning on it this summer.

The drive to CO springs is pretty, and Manitou Springs is cool for the penny arcade thinger, but last summer my sister and I decided to drive down to CO springs to look around and go hiking and things and we decided that town is really, really hideous.

It does have a ZOO on a MOUNTAIN though which is cool.

I'm totally a northern colorado girl though.

This comes from growing up in Greeley I 'spose.

i went to a party near lefthand canyon (betw. boulder & lyons) a couple weeks back and it was a serious Boulder yuppie kind of scene. Very well-off pseud-bohemians. I won't front, though, I'd live up there in a second if I had the $$$. Outrageously gorgeous.

thanks for the springs lowdown, nabisco. it seemed like a weird place to me, but not necessarily in an unpleasant way. but like i said, have spent hardly any time there in the past 20years.
where is the good mex food south of Pueblo? Along I-25, or further west, in the mountains? I couldn't find any good food til I hit New Mexico.

Well, I grew up in Pueblo, so I'm biased toward the Mexican around there. There's not much to point to outside of that in terms of specific towns, but anytime I had decent Mexican in small towns anywhere in the area -- Canon City, La Junta, Trinidad, wherever -- it tended to be a lot better than up north. (Never mind crossing the border into New Mexican goodness.)

(Now that I think about it, I'm not actually sure I-25 passes through much of anything between Pueblo and New Mexico -- Trinidad? Walsenberg? Rye? So yeah, once you're past Pueblo, you tend to start checking the mileage for Raton and not stopping.)

yeah it's pretty much a no man's land past Pueblo on I-25, but I had fantasies of there being a Shangri La of Mexican food hidden in those mountains.
If I'm not mistaken, Longmont has a huge ConAgra processing facility (chickens, for sure, don't know what else. i used to work at their HQ in HR), and employs a good deal of Mexicans, which would explain the food oasis there.

Mandee - a ride from Boulder would be reaaaally awesome if you it's convenient for you. The only thing is that I'm going to be at work until about 5pm or so. Is that too late to swing through Boulder? If so, that's cool, I'll just take the bus to Denver, it's not a big deal.

<3 nabisco's second paragraph up there in his colorado springs post

Zach I probably won't leave Greeley until 6pm or so... so yeah, the work issue isn't a problem.

awwwwwwesome.

I'll send you an email with my address. It's not hard to get to - it's a few blocks west of Broadway, on the Hill.

hey zach, change of plans - my friend's band is playing downtown tomorrow (20th & Larimer somewhere) and then there's a party thinger afterward. wanna come down for that?

YES, that sounds great. Although, I may have to be lame and leave the party early, because I think the last bus back to boulder leaves around midnight or so (I could be hilariously wrong on that).

no, last one leaves at 2:20 am duder!!!

we could send you off at union station which is like 2 blocks from the party

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Mandalion/Picture2.jpg

whoa, gnarly!

Cool, what's the name of the bar/venue then? I can just meet you there.

i'll email you, im still gathering details

Mandee, I just got back from Denver about 20 minutes ago. What a fucking awesome weekend trip! I laughed so hard and so often over the past few days that I actually have a sore throat (best sore throat ever). We gotta do it again sometime soon.

PS Please don't tell anyone how much I cheated at air hockey oh wait what am I doing

most entertaining air hockey game ever!!

yeah man it was great to meet you and me and all my friends had a blast!!! and you are welcome to our couch in denver anytime.