http://blogs.indiewire.com/lincoln/archives/kung_fu_panda_poster.jpg besides toddler shit like dora the explorer every goddamn cartoon nowadays is this smirky eyebrow-raised badass poochie bullshit... can yall find any who arent?
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
excellent thread idea!!! i was just complaining about this to someone last week
― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
shrek was the death blow
― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link
so wait is this convo mainly about TV shows, or summer tentpole animated features, or both?
― some dude, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I hate them so much but you do realize that complaining about this kinda thing = you have grown old rite
― J0hn D., Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
eh i was griping about these kids today when i was 14, im not too worried about coming off like a curmodgeon
― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.jerryzigmont.com/Images/WonderPets.jpg
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
but yeah i remember watching shrek in high school & thinking it was way too pleased with itself in its mocking of every disney convention & the fact that it was a kids cartoon with dick jokes - i dont know that theres really been a successful traditional animated feature since?
― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link
http://mikeresponts.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/horton_hears_a_who_.jpg http://mystrangetheories.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/horton.jpg
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link
now find an animated protagonist that isn't fat
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i think ratatoillie was maybe not so smirky? i dunno cuz i havent actually seen any of these
but id like to see someone try a non-winkywinky fairytale movie for kids sometime
― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
http://images.movieeye.com/store/images/space-jam-tweety-movie-poster.jpg
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.preston.gov.uk/Images/News/Wallace%20and%20Gromit.jpg
― Tom D., Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
ratatouille wasn't smirky at all..it was very sincere.
honestly i don't feel like pixar is at all a part of this sort of thing. (which i hate)
it's more of a dreamworks thing.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah the Pixar movies are none of these things. xp
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
and while these types of films are successful, pixar has been more successful by far.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
the end monologue by the french food critic guy might be the best manifesto for criticism ever.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
well, Cars was a little smirky.
― some dude, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, my first thought was WHAT ABOUT PIXAR?
Kung Fu Panda has had very good word of mouth, to be fair.
― chap, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Antz Shrek Shrek 2 Shark Tale Madagascar Over the Hedge Shrek the Third Bee Movie Kung Fu Panda Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa Shrek Goes Fourth Puss In Boots: The Story of an Ogre Killer Shrek 5 http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:0sUpDm4JFOqAKM:http://www.shillpages.com/movies/judgmentatnuremberg1961dvd.jpg
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^ dreamworks wall of shame
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
and yeah cars is pretty 'tudey http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/features/2006/cars-film-review/03-large/cars-lightning-mcqueen.jpg
theyre seriously not fucking done w/ shrek yet??? or even close, apparently? ugh
― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I like the first Shrek.
― chap, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck angelina jolie doing a voice in it. and balls to being fair as well. (:p)
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, for comparison's sake, via Rotten Tomatoes:
66% The Incredible Hulk $55.4M 88% Kung Fu Panda $33.6M 20% The Happening $30.5M 34% You Don't Mess with th… $16.4M 77% Indiana Jones and the … $14.7M
When a movie is rating higher than Indy IV and the latest Marvel joint, yeah, it might be actually not too bad.
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
all of these cartoons get ridiculously good critical reviews
― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
what about shark's tale?
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Cameron Diaz has reportedly asked for the film to have an eco-friendly storyline about a threatened swamp.
Ugh.
― chap, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
shrek 4 is set to be directed by the director of deuce bigalow: male gigalo
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
-- Upt0eleven, Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:01 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
aka "crossed arms: the motion picture"
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mo/sharktalebig.jpg http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/07/shark_tale_narrowweb__200x372.jpg
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
lol crossed fins
― some dude, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Shark 'Tude
Shrek the Third 42% Bee Movie 53% Madagascar 56% Over the Hedge 73%
What metric are we using for "ridiculously good" here?
Shark Tale 34% BEST REVIEWED MOVIE LOL
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
well i guess yeah cars maybe was a little bit of bad dudes with baddass 'tudes
but still it's nowhere NEAR as snarky as say shrek.
the big thing with Pixar is that they don't do pop culture reference gags...each movie is true to its own fantasy world, they don't break to wink at the audience...
cars is the least of the pixar movies though.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
"Shrilly pandering to edgy, jive-talking, hip-hopping bents of the moment, [Shark Tale] churns up a sea of offensive ethnic stereotypes, unfunny situations, unsympathetic characters and lousy plotting." Houston Chronicle
A MUST-SEE!!
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
eh i was griping about these kids today when i was 14, im not too worried about coming off like a curmodgeon-- deeznuts, Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:38 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
-- deeznuts, Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:38 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Suspicions about nuts's age confirmed.
― libcrypt, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, Kung Fu Panda is the only one of these I actually want to see, for the whole "actual animal master of corresponding animal style" thing.
― kingfish, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
the Shark Tale producers presumably concluded that the secret to Nemo's success was the fact that it had fish in it. OMG FISH ARE SO IN THIS YEAR!!!!
cocks
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link
-- Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:00 (7 minutes ago) Link
Smirking computer animation edges out the corpse of a movie franchise and yet another comic book film (the second take on this one), what an accomplishment.
― mh, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link
-- kingfish, Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:10 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
that's a really strange criteria for wanting to see a movie.
― some dude, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Finding Nemo only came out a year before Shark Tale, and these computer animation movies take years and years to produce.
― some dude, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
-- some dude, Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
coyote kingfish
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link
i saw monsters inc on tv & its great but theres def pop cult refs... buscemi makes fargo woodchipper jokes!!
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:aeu3c2Y6M5CKMM:http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/media/1819/Tweety.jpg
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
lol argh @ tweety
― sleep, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I like kung fu movies, what do you want? Trad kung fu movies make a point of demonstrating contrasting styles, the more the better. Hell, even the pilot for the David Carradine series had each of the 5(ish) animal styles portrayed. The conceit of taking your otherwise bog standard dreamworks talking animals cheapo CGI but using it to instead match up said animal with the animal style interests me.
Let's see if this movie has James Hong in it.
[imdb check]
HA! It does!
― kingfish, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Dreamworks and Pixar so know what the other is working on, even if they're not meant to, and even if it's just "hey they're doing a fish film". Goes as far back as Bug's Life/Antz.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
tweety is one of the OGs of this shit imo xposts
― sleep, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
there were leaks. so i hear.
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
There are many things to despise about society as a whole but the myriad ways in which women specifically are invited to mutilate themselves or have mutilation forced on them by others is one of the worst.
― Karl Havoc (DJP), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link
xpost Well if people would just contribute to my goddamn GoFundMe already
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link
Until the last decade or so, the BBL was not common practice in the US. Its origins, as its name suggests, are in Brazil, where cosmetic surgery has a storied background, largely due to the country’s history of eugenics. In 1918, Dr. Renato Kehl founded the Eugenics Society of São Paulo, which aimed to erase all signs of Black and Indigenous physical appearance in Brazil. In 1960, a surgeon named Ivo Pitanguy founded the world’s first plastic surgery training center in Brazil, where he pioneered what became known as the Brazilian butt lift and taught surgeons all over the globe how to perform his techniques.
i'm irrationally annoyed by this shameless non-sequitur
― aegis philbin (crüt), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link
There are many things to despise about society as a whole but the myriad ways in which women specifically are invited to mutilate themselves or have mutilation forced on them by others is one of the worst.― Karl Havoc (DJP), Wednesday, August 4, 2021 2:30 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Karl Havoc (DJP), Wednesday, August 4, 2021 2:30 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFKdZsAkMqs
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
oh my god what the hell is that
― Karl Havoc (DJP), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link
it's a guy who was on an episode of "how to with john wilson," highly recommended, and i hate how fucking catchy the song is
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link
Anyway: I feel like on some level it is a positive development that people put their images through weird filters on Instagram in order to look different -- the hope is that we're at the tail end of the stage where people think how you look in person is how you "really" look, which is what's driving the perverse urge to get your body cut open in order to recreate in inferior physical form what Instagram can do easily and cheaply. In the future, looking one way on the screen and looking a different, perhaps less-marked-as-desirable way in so-called "real life" will not seem any weirder than looking one way dressed up and wearing makeup and a different, less-marked-as-desirable way when you wake up in your pajamas. And then we can fire all the plastic surgeons.
vtubers are, presumably, the first wave of that - although their relationships with fans, the real world, etc. is definitely different that an influencer on instagram or someone on a dating app.
― vcrash, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link
Before you get too depressed over "instagram face" and similar self-mutilations, that entire New Yorker article was centered around real life examples provided by Beverly Hills and its ethic. Although pressure to conform to commercialized standards of feminine beauty is nearly universal, even extending into poorer nations now, the more extreme versions that include plastic surgery and expensive injections will be out of reach of the vast majority of women. It's always going to be a rather fringe phenomenon.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link
https://d43fweuh3sg51.cloudfront.net/media/media_files/a1e7449c-7171-47da-b82f-817b21ac0db6/7e206072-450e-4f6c-83c0-277fbec14513.png
Problem solved!The problem is solved!We solved the problemAnd everything is awesome!Problem solved!
― Karl Havoc (DJP), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:04 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
hmm, i feel the converse. the filters making young people look much more conventionally attractive cannot be good for self-image and just anecdotally i know tons of women, some in their 20s, who are getting fillers and botox now whereas i knew none 5 years ago
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link
If you're curious about numbers: https://www.plasticsurgery.org/documents/News/Statistics/2020/plastic-surgery-statistics-full-report-2020.pdf
15.6 million "procedures" (which includes Botox; 2.3 million of those are surgeries). That's a 14% drop from 2019, though obviously Covid is that crucial factor there
― rob, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link
those are US numbers btw
― rob, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
There are many things to despise about society as a whole but the myriad ways in which every thought expressed in public must be crushed into a false binary straitjacket so it can be applauded or denounced in the simplest terms is one of the worst.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
It's really more that your pathological need to be the most nuanced person in the room makes you post unnecessary things that don't expand or enrich the conversation
― Karl Havoc (DJP), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link
unnecessary things that don't expand or enrich the conversation
this makes me feel abnormally typical
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link
yeah kind of my feeling, I put a pic of myself through a filter and thought "damn! I look good!" and then got depressed that I don't actually look like that. it also seems to be kind of a thing on dating apps - my wife has a cousin who's meeting people using one but using a picture of herself that looks nothing like actually does...I don't wanna be insensitive, but this almost feels like a form of catfishing?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link
frog you're a fox
― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link
great revive
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link
well thanks but imagine if my nose were smaller. it would be game over for all of you
― frogbs, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link
xpsounds like someone needs an eyebrow raise and a little light smirkening around the mouth
― rob, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link
The article rob posted above was interesting. People are not just trying to look “hotter” — younger, slimmer, smoother — they are turning themselves into human cartoons with cartoon facial expressions and sound effects. The ideal is not even realistic for anyone — not even the most conventional looking person around — it isn’t meant to be on our plane of reality. This is about virtual representations of the self supplanting the real self, probably causing weird kinds of dysmorphia.
― treeship., Wednesday, 4 August 2021 21:48 (two years ago) link
Not even dysmorphia. A more general or fundamental alienation from the body. I think this is why it seems so dystopian.
― treeship., Wednesday, 4 August 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link
I guess digital foot-binding and skull shaping is preferable to IRL foot-binding
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link
Yeah that is true. But people are getting real-life surgery to approximate anime body proportions.
― treeship., Wednesday, 4 August 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link
https://www.statesman.com/storyimage/TX/20161012/NEWS/310112497/EP/1/3/EP-310112497.jpg
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link
this is the terrifying sequel to 28 days later I really needed
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link
Alex Jones is not yet 50
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link
14 years on...
https://images.mymovies.net/images/film/cin/350x522/fid21007.jpg
― Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2022 09:31 (one year ago) link
maximum Poochie
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 18 July 2022 09:37 (one year ago) link
The original Legion of Super-Pets is v much not a smirky eyebrow-raised badass Poochie comic strip
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Legion_of_Super-Pets_%28Earth-One%29
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 18 July 2022 09:53 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/R4JmXDx.jpg
― Wiggum Dorma (wins), Saturday, 1 October 2022 09:10 (one year ago) link
Excellent.
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 October 2022 10:01 (one year ago) link
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNWEyYzc2YjItYzY4Ni00ZTY2LWJjYTItMjJiYTE1MWNkZTU4XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyODUwMzI1NTI@._V1_.jpg
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 December 2022 10:34 (one year ago) link
http://www.impawards.com/2023/posters/ruby_gillman_teenage_kraken_ver6_xlg.jpg
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 23 June 2023 23:36 (eleven months ago) link
Dreamworks, it is time for you to learn to draw faces
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 24 June 2023 08:34 (ten months ago) link
There is a large slice of society for which smirk=WINNER and a smaller slice to whom smirk=sociopath, we must choose a side
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 24 June 2023 08:51 (ten months ago) link
Well going by the trailer for that movie, the filmmakers are in the latter slice since she’s the baddie lol
― Duane Barry, Saturday, 24 June 2023 17:22 (ten months ago) link
del Toro just a few days ago:
The 58-year-old filmmaker spent a good portion of his Annecy master class deriding what he sees as destructive tendencies in much commercial animation where characters and emotions are “codified into a sort of teenage rom-com, almost emoji-style behavior. (If) I see a character raising his fucking eyebrow, or crossing his arms, having a sassy pose — oh, I hate that shit. (Why) does everything act as if they’re in a sitcom? I think it's emotional pornography. All the families are happy and sassy and quick, everyone has a one-liner. Well, my dad was boring. I was boring. Everybody in my family was boring. We had no one-liners. We’re all fucked up. That’s what I want to see animated. I would love to see real life in animation. I actually think it’s urgent. think it’s urgent to see real life in animation.”
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 June 2023 20:47 (ten months ago) link
Guillermo del Toro, welcome to the resistance
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 24 June 2023 21:14 (ten months ago) link
"Well, that just happened."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 24 June 2023 21:21 (ten months ago) link
already noted upthread but
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lego/images/6/6e/LEGO-Smiley-001.png/revision/latest?cb=20131127180524
to
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ca/9b/fa/ca9bfa14ff7384c85dde033ab28290ca.jpg
― omar little, Monday, 31 July 2023 21:24 (nine months ago) link
http://https%3A//media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230504113629-01-what-are-zillennials-olarte-wellness.jpg%3Fc%3D16x9%26q%3Dh_540%2Cw_960%2Cc_fill/f_webp
from: "Zillennials: The newest micro-generation has a name" https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/health/what-are-zillennials-wellness/index.html
Apparently this is the smirking generation. No generation has suffered more. "“They attended college during the pandemic, and missed out on important social markers.” So they must smirk.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 6 August 2023 01:55 (nine months ago) link
goddamit
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 6 August 2023 01:56 (nine months ago) link
well just click the link to get your dose of smirk
http://https%3A//media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230504113629-01-what-are-zillennials-olarte-wellness.jpg
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 6 August 2023 01:59 (nine months ago) link
i give up.
https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230504113629-01-what-are-zillennials-olarte-wellness.jpg
― koogs, Sunday, 6 August 2023 19:50 (nine months ago) link
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNzk4ODdiOTEtMTk3YS00MzZmLTgyOWMtYzc1NjgxYWE2MmMyXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTUzMTg2ODkz._V1_.jpg
― Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:34 (three months ago) link
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/garfield/images/2/22/Garfield1980.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20231128184048
Garfield was kind of a pioneer when it comes to smirky cartoon characters
― soref, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:44 (three months ago) link