― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)
with my youth frittering away in this depressing fashion, i say praise be to them what tamper with time! Without them, I wouldn't have been able to stay up till HALF ELEVEN last night. yeah!
― nickie (nickie), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)
Yah, that's a major improvement. I get really depressed when I wake up and it's still dark outside--I just want to stay in bed and eat cookies all day.
― J (Jay), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 27 October 2002 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― at swim, two boys, Sunday, 27 October 2002 15:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Sunday, 27 October 2002 15:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 27 October 2002 15:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Sunday, 27 October 2002 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Sunday, 27 October 2002 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)
(*this may be a slight exaggeration.)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 27 October 2002 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 27 October 2002 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)
I quite like the early darkness.
― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 27 October 2002 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 27 October 2002 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 27 October 2002 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Sunday, 27 October 2002 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)
The inevitable downside -- and since I really can't stand short days and long winter nights, megaSIGH over it. It's one big reason I'm where I am, honestly.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 October 2002 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 27 October 2002 17:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Sunday, 27 October 2002 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― donna (donna), Sunday, 27 October 2002 19:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Rebecca (reb), Sunday, 27 October 2002 19:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― brg30 (brg30), Sunday, 27 October 2002 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Sunday, 27 October 2002 19:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 27 October 2002 23:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― jeska, Monday, 28 October 2002 03:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 28 October 2002 03:16 (twenty-three years ago)
― rainy (rainy), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 02:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― rainy (rainy), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 02:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 02:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― Graham (graham), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 18:49 (twenty-three years ago)
really confused about what time it is
― harbl, Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:06 (sixteen years ago)
The hour goes forward in the autumn and back in the spring - it's easy to remember with the rhyme "Fall Forward, Spring Back".
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:10 (sixteen years ago)
u evil
― StanM, Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:15 (sixteen years ago)
fucking DLS means I have to cycle home in the pitch black.
― Jarlrmai, Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:16 (sixteen years ago)
i know how it works but is it 7:16 or 8:16. my phone + computer seem to have gone forward and ilx went back.
― harbl, Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:17 (sixteen years ago)
no this says it's next week! http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=179
― harbl, Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:21 (sixteen years ago)
ok my phone and computer didn't do anything because it's not daylight savings time yet. ilx did it a week early?
― harbl, Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:22 (sixteen years ago)
We went from BST to GMT last night, here in Britishland.
― Yo! GOP Raps (suzy), Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:25 (sixteen years ago)
oh. i see what the problem was. my ilx prefs time zone was "Cuba"
― harbl, Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:26 (sixteen years ago)
haha
― ken "save-a-finn" c (ken c), Sunday, 25 October 2009 12:55 (sixteen years ago)
lmao
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 25 October 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)
DST adds an hour to everyone's halloween partying
― cutty, Sunday, 25 October 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)
living through another cuba
― velko, Sunday, 25 October 2009 15:41 (sixteen years ago)
rip Fidel
― lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 October 2009 15:42 (sixteen years ago)
oh hello it's time saving time in longdong
― warmsherry, Sunday, 25 October 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)
like the obvious solution is start school later so kids can head over there when it's light
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 15:14 (three months ago)
Yes but then parents would have to go to work later.
― Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 15:26 (three months ago)
so everybody wins!
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 15:28 (three months ago)
we should all just take winter off
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 15:30 (three months ago)
All for it.
― Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 15:31 (three months ago)
In the US we're perfectly capable of running over schoolchildren whether it's light outside or not, reflective clothes regardless
― mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 15:33 (three months ago)
The US is further south so it shouldn't be an issue I would have thought.
― Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 15:39 (three months ago)
So this winter, Vancouver will be an hour ahead of Seattle.
Ok.
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 16:07 (three months ago)
Isn't there part of Arizona that doesn't change the clock?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 17:46 (three months ago)
yes, and Indiana too
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 17:47 (three months ago)
better things are possible!
yeah i used to be madder about dst before i discovered i could skip out for a run during a workday and no one cares. having a bullshit job and being old enough to not give a fuck / do what i want and dare someone to call me out on it is my jam these days.
when i was younger "fall back" was the good one because i could sleep in. now i'm much more about "spring forward" and that extra hour of evening light.
i kinda like the twice-a-year time yank now - it gives me something to blame being tired and cranky on.
― map, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 17:56 (three months ago)
I have zero problems with the current DST system and I think the it's almost become a meme to be a huge baby about it on the Internet.
― jus au rascal (wins), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 17:57 (three months ago)
Yeah I have poked around northern Indiana and you can ping back and forth a few times a day.
― calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 17:59 (three months ago)
humans have successfully adapted to living above the Arctic Circle, where the year careens between perpetual daylight for weeks at a time in summer and equally perpetual darkness in winter. I just know we can do this clock change thing, too. just pretend you changed time zones or something.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 18:26 (three months ago)
not gonna get into this but the ill effects of a sudden time change have been extensively documented
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 19:20 (three months ago)
Indiana has two time zones, but all of it observes daylight savings time. Wasn't always the case!
Arizona simply doesn't observe it — except for the Navajo Nation who does.
Hawaii is the only state that completely doesn't observe DST.
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 19:27 (three months ago)
xp - yes, but are these ill effects worse than working graveyard shift? or jet lag? or any of dozens of other modern practices we regularly subject ourselves to? what is a proper point of comparison for how damaging this is?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 19:33 (three months ago)
i wonder how damaging the time change is compared to arguing about the time change.
― map, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 19:36 (three months ago)
quite a few ilxors seem to be fretting their way to stents every time this thread is bumped
― hat stays on (gyac), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 19:49 (three months ago)
― Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Tuesday, March 3, 2026 9:39 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://datainnovation.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/2022-Sunrise-Data-Viz.png
we'll see if that embed works. tl;dr is that sunrise/sunset does not follow longitude, it follows the line of sight to the sun. so the daylight hours vary depending on where you are in the time zone. presumably this isn't as noticed in the UK because that kind of lines up
― mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 22:12 (three months ago)
during the darkest part of the winter, I drive to work in the dark 8am-ish and drive home in the dark around 5pm. luckily that's not a very long period
― mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 22:14 (three months ago)
also I meant latitude rather than longitude now that I think about it
― mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 22:17 (three months ago)
we should just make the time zones horizontal!
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 22:19 (three months ago)
Getting home early from work would be easy
― Abby Gore (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 March 2026 22:59 (three months ago)
I read that living a nocturnal lifestyle is supposed to take years off one’s life, but sometimes I think I would be at least 50% more productive if the sky were dark or cloudy most of the time. Think I might be part orc? I keep thinking about getting blackout curtains for my home office.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 3 March 2026 23:39 (three months ago)
a perpetually cloudy planet could take a bit of the edge off climate change
― Mollusk, Virginia (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 00:29 (three months ago)
medieval people had two sleeps... go to bed in the evening, then get up a like two in the morning doing god only knows what, then go back to bed until sunrise
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 00:45 (three months ago)
Millions of people got lengthy shuteye when the rats arrived
― Abby Gore (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 00:47 (three months ago)
You’ve Been Lied to About Rats and the Black Death
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/medical-critical-thinking-history/youve-been-lied-about-rats-and-black-death
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 00:54 (three months ago)
Type of error: Content blocked by network security rules
― Abby Gore (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 00:59 (three months ago)
jackin’ it
― Mollusk, Virginia (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 01:02 (three months ago)
This went on much longer than the middle ages. The Industrial Revolution put an end to it.
― Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 07:34 (three months ago)
> presumably this isn't as noticed in the UK because that kind of lines up
i think it's just that the uk is narrower
LONDON 0°00'W^06:39 v17:45 11h06m
CARDIFF 3°11'W but same latitude, roughly^06.51 v17:58 11h07m
EDINBURGH 330 miles north of london^06:56 v17:53 10h57m
that last is more pronounced when we are further from the equinox:
LON max 16h38 min 7h50CARD max 16h38 min 7h50 EDIN max 17h30 min 7h
― koogs, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 12:56 (three months ago)
Latitude might not be the whole story but it should be pointed out that Glasgow and therefore Edinburgh are further north than every major city in Canada.
― Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 13:08 (three months ago)
The UK invented double daylight time!
― calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 14:05 (three months ago)
Thought I had you, but Edmonton is three degrees further south than Edingow. Damn!
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 15:58 (three months ago)
Thank the Lord for the gulf stream is all I can say.
― Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 16:03 (three months ago)
Keep imagining Tech N9ne yelling this thread title as a chorus
― Abby Gore (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 March 2026 16:58 (three months ago)
https://www.hcn.org/articles/welcome-to-daylight-nonsense-time
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 March 2026 23:42 (three months ago)
I didn't know time zones were a Canadian invention, thanks a lot us
― symsymsym, Thursday, 5 March 2026 01:48 (three months ago)
People in the Yukon should be allowed to function on whatever time they want, that's a brutal winter
In response to that article - I think latitude has everything to do with it.
People in far northern climates experience extreme effects from time change in a way we in the US don't. For them daylight savings is about how early the sun rises, and with daylight savings in the Winter it could be as late as 10:00 am or later. That is not good. They should go back to standard time
For us in the US, daylight savings shifts light from the morning to the evening in a graceful way in the Summer when there is a lot of sun. Shifting to later daybreak in favor of later sunset makes sense. In Fall and Winter it doesn't.
I don't want to wake up and have it be dark until 8:00 am in the Winter (which would be the case under daylight savings time), and also don't want to be blinded by sunlight coming into my bedroom at 5:30 am in the Summer (which would be the case under standard time)
The change to daylight savings annually in the Spring and then back to standard time in the Fall is a good thing
― Dan S, Thursday, 5 March 2026 02:16 (three months ago)
Hm probably the first argument for DST that has made sense to me.
― disco stabbing horror (lukas), Thursday, 5 March 2026 02:47 (three months ago)
Just make it 5 o clock all day
― Abby Gore (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 March 2026 04:21 (three months ago)
That’s the case in Margaritaville, obviously
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 5 March 2026 05:19 (three months ago)
Hey, it's gotta be five o'clock everywhere, right?
― pplains, Thursday, 5 March 2026 13:45 (three months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51UpEKX39ZY
― mookieproof, Sunday, 8 March 2026 02:34 (two months ago)
rude
― mookieproof, Sunday, 8 March 2026 07:00 (two months ago)
omg that's fantastic
― kinder, Sunday, 8 March 2026 10:33 (two months ago)