― navboy, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Honda, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― AARON DARC, Thursday, 13 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I <3 Mulholland Drive.
I also <3 the dvd extras. That French interviewer guy is hilariously bad.
― W4LTER, Monday, 20 August 2007 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00020HB7S.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
― chakles, Saturday, 26 January 2008 01:07 (sixteen years ago) link
swimming pool was good
there must be another mulholland drive thread -- there is, in fact. theories.
― Surmounter, Saturday, 26 January 2008 06:51 (sixteen years ago) link
two hot movies one hit price
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 26 January 2008 07:09 (sixteen years ago) link
"Swimming Pool" was fucking dire.
― Alex in NYC, Saturday, 26 January 2008 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link
i think that needs a bit of explaining alex
just too slow for you?
i thought the juxtaposition of the different phases of femininity was enthralling, along with the sheer magnetism of a French girl at her youthful prime. highly entertaining character studies.
― Surmounter, Saturday, 26 January 2008 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
I've never heard them called that before.
― Alba, Saturday, 26 January 2008 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link
=P
― Surmounter, Saturday, 26 January 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link
It felt unfinished to me, what can I tell you.
― Alex in NYC, Saturday, 26 January 2008 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link
i liked ludivine sagnier's boobs
― remy bean, Saturday, 26 January 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah she was totally hot and mesmerizing.
― tehresa, Saturday, 26 January 2008 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
yah
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 26 January 2008 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link
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― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
was looking for something else & found my ticket stub from seeing this -http://oi42.tinypic.com/33bob6e.jpg
― johnny crunch, Friday, 5 July 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link
lol fuk
― johnny crunch, Friday, 5 July 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link
Woah, I just watched this for the very first time last night. What can this mean?
― So: The Answers (or something), Friday, 5 July 2013 07:25 (ten years ago) link
My wife and I watched this together right before it went off netflix. It was pretty much our first artsy movie together, I think. Usually we watch Kung fu movies or comedies when the kids aren't monopolizing the tv. She was so pissed off at me.
― how's life, Friday, 5 July 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
ha ha!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 5 July 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
Came here with some half-thoughts about mulholland drive, now just want to talk about how bad swimming pool is.
But maybe there's something in that juxtaposition of two films which you might categorise as 'films with sex in them'.
The Lynch film doesn't pretend not to be soft porn in its soft porn parts, whereas swimming pool spent most of its time trying to convince you that it was worthy and artistic or something.
Mulholland is also as scary and unsettling as anything Lynch has ever done, whereas swimming pool is just creepy in ways it doesn't intend. The teenage girl's character was very obviously written by a man for a male audience.
Mulholland also continued Lynch's thing of looking at the - well, I'm not going to say 'seedy underbelly of Puritan America', but you know what I mean, using the idea of the proper and the improper, a sympathy with both the nice sunny world and the dark forbidden world. Whereas swimming pool was pushing a strained 'Look, here in France we are sexy and do not care!' sensibility which by now is pretty much its own white picket fence.
And look how MD uses the conventions of Hollywood, noir, and Americana and makes them into something that frightens you, whereas SP claims to be Artistic European Cinema and ends up boring you.
Dunno. This is all tentative and I'm aware that people here know Lynch better than I do.
― cardamon, Friday, 5 July 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
Blu-ray on Criterion in October
http://www.criterion.com/films/28050-mulholland-dr
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link
*faints*
― velcoro pharmacy & provisions (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
Would be happier if not for the region-locking.
― chihuahuau, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link
It would be cool if they included the 'pilot' cut in the extras
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link
this is so cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh6JtllRkPQ
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
interesting to go back and see so little enthusiasm for this when it came out. this is widely now considered one of the best films since 2000, and Lynch's second best film after Blue Velvet. no?
― akm, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link
taking sides
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link
yeah it is weird, also strange that there's comparatively little press or promo for this. No talkshows iirc, total opposite of Lost Highway media blitz. Don't know why.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link
Lynch was on Leno when Mulholland Drive came out in 2001
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link
I seem to remember MD was pretty big at the time. It got a swag of awards and nominations. My memory is that it came at a time when Lynch's reputation had tapered off somewhat, and this put him right back on the pedestal.
― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link
The media consensus was that Lynch had lost his way. I think the expectation after Lost Highway was that he would go on making critically divisive, minor cult films. People had also largely heard that MD was a rejected TV pilot with some new footage tacked on. This was one of those unexpected comebacks that has a hell of an impact.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link
this is widely now considered one of the best films since 2000, and Lynch's second best film after Blue Velvet. no?
Try best.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:14 (six years ago) link
And it won the NYFCC's best film award, along with iirc the Village Voice critics poll.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:15 (six years ago) link
eric OTM
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link
yes
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link
"So little enthusiasm" -- wha??
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link
Naomi Watts even got faint Oscar buzz
so little enthusiasm in this thread, i think they meant
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:29 (six years ago) link
yes, I meant this thread
― akm, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link
Mulholland Drive came out when ILX was down and all the discus was on the Sandbox iirc
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 05:24 (six years ago) link
yah we were goin nutz for it i saw it like 5 times in the theater
― Shart Dressed Man (kurt schwitterz), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 07:42 (six years ago) link
there's a couple of copies of ilx.thehold.net and sandbox.thehold.net on archive.org but I can't find that discussion I think
― StanM, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 08:58 (six years ago) link
i saw this in the theater when it came out, it was amazing, and i was on ILX at the time, but didnt really bother posting here. don't take the lack of posts for a lack of enthusiasm me and my friends drove around the parking lot afterwards screaming with joy.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
i saw it when it came out and immediately stabbed my eyes out so i would never see another movie ever again
― na (NA), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link
....naido?
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link
NA eyed 0
Holy shit lynch is a genius
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
lol
― na (NA), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
it was right there, staring us all in the face for all these years
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
yeah me neither, is what my post was meant to sayanother favourite little thing from this film is the way the camera continuously rises in the shots in Winkies while Dan describes his dream
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link
^word! when I first watched it, I was all "wtf?" Lynch actually talks about that in the same interview; apparently it took some work to rig up the right equipment for that effect in that small space (I had assumed it was just handheld).
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
!!
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link
Yes, Eric H is correct, slow-watching is watching in normal time, maybe even backtracking on occasion, as opposed to running out of time because the purchase is due to expire and or it is time to sleep - what dreams may come? - and so FFWDing through bits and speedwatching.
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link
How do you view that scene in relation to Rebekah Del Rio's performance at Club Silencio?
I think both that scene and Betty's amazing audition scene relate directly to Club Silencio, all of them play with the ways film and art create artificial realities that can convey and resonate with deep, real emotions. It's kind of the ultimate magic trick, I'll show you how it's done, but you'll still feel it anyway.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
Dum, da-dumDa-da-da-da-da-da-daOh, baby, I've told every little star
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link
xp Nice, thx
Oh, baby, I've told every little star
I've always liked that song... not sure how I feel about it used in this context (can you ever hear Roy Orbison's "In Dreams" as non-creepy, after the Blue Velvet treatment?), but it was a good choice! (I had never heard "Sixteen Reasons Why I Love You" before.)
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link
idgi, who's in drag?
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link
Does he use Roy Orbison in other films besides this one and the other canonical one mentioned?
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link
Hm. Apparently Lynch actually first heard "Crying," which led to him listening to more of the Big O and putting "In Dreams" in Blue Velvet. In my own Silencio Repertory Theater I will imagine how he would use "Leah" in a scene.
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
Or what would have happened if he had discovered The Louvin Brothers instead.
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
Here's Lynch on that song:
Rebekah just wanted to come over for a coffee and sing in front of us. She didn't want to record anything, but she came in and four minutes later—I think before she'd had her coffee—she's in the booth. And the one take that she sang, four minutes off the street, is the vocal that's in the film. THE ACTUAL RECORDING!The weird thing is that she chose to sing that particular Roy Orbison song. I was about to start shooting Blue Velvet, and "Crying" came on the radio. I said, "Jeez! I've got to get that song to see if it would work in the film." In the end, it wasn't quite right, but I started listening to other cuts, and "In Dreams" came up. (...) Rebekah knows Barbara Orbison, Roy's second wife, and she's the one who translated "Crying" into Spanish, but it's just so strange that that was the song that was almost in Blue Velvet.
The weird thing is that she chose to sing that particular Roy Orbison song. I was about to start shooting Blue Velvet, and "Crying" came on the radio. I said, "Jeez! I've got to get that song to see if it would work in the film." In the end, it wasn't quite right, but I started listening to other cuts, and "In Dreams" came up. (...) Rebekah knows Barbara Orbison, Roy's second wife, and she's the one who translated "Crying" into Spanish, but it's just so strange that that was the song that was almost in Blue Velvet.
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link
Oh, so that's why there is a Barbara Orbison credit/thanks in there. Great story, thanks!
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link
I watched Bergman’s Persona last night, on HBO Max. I saw it college, but barely remembered the details (I’m just kultured enuff to have caught the general allusions in MD). It’s an interesting film; not exactly a masterpiece (though who am I to say). Awesome performances, of course.Maybe I’ll revisit Altman’s 3 Women at some point (another one I saw decades ago), as I know it’s another touchpoint.
― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Sunday, 25 April 2021 01:44 (three years ago) link
Hour of the Wolf is another Bergman that has something in common with a number of Lynch films - a character disintegrating into his fantasies (or being victimized by their embodiment).
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 25 April 2021 03:15 (three years ago) link
Huh, never heard of that one
― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Sunday, 25 April 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link
I wouldn't recommend it unless you've watched 60 other Bergman films.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 April 2021 03:45 (three years ago) link
3 women has many parallels with MD imo
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 25 April 2021 03:46 (three years ago) link
The Silence has a number of shots in it that seem to have heavily influenced Lynch too. Basically he's a Bergman disciple.
― john p. coltrane in hot pursuit (Matt #2), Sunday, 25 April 2021 09:20 (three years ago) link
Hadn’t thought about that but yeah.
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 April 2021 13:21 (three years ago) link
I love Bergman's films from 1963 - 1969 and am ambivalent about the rest. I'd like to see The Touch, although the only critic who admired it was Robin Wood.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 25 April 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link
I wouldn't recommend it unless you've watched Hour of the Wolf first.
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 25 April 2021 14:46 (three years ago) link
Heh
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link
I saw a handful in college, but the only one I have a strong memory of is Scenes From a Marriage (which I loved).
― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link
Previously I was only aware of the Ingrid Bergman connection.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
Just want to call out my favorite shot from the movie. The long zoom-out at the start of this clip, from what looks like a live musical performance to what is then revealed as a radio broadcast and then as a filmed scene of a radio broadcast. It breaks the 4th wall and just keeps on breaking them. I think it's a perfect little encapsulation of what the movie has to say about both filmmaking and storytelling in general, including the stories we tell ourselves. Also, it's just gorgeous to watch.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, April 19, 2021 12:00 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
man good post have not watched this in too long, its kind of sad the popular conception of lynch is dark/weird/abstract which doesnt give him credit for mastery of the form
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link
Silencio.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link
I really have to ban myself from using the word vertiginous when talking about certain lynch moments but that (and inland empire locomotion) is this incredible moment where you feel the trapdoor give
― Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link
El resto es silencio.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 April 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link
I think Hour of the Wolf was maybe the 4th Bergman film I watched and I still like it, totally worth seeing as long as you like the idea of Bergman doing gothic horror.
― JoeStork, Sunday, 25 April 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I remember enjoying it, but that it was kind of atypical, Bergman-lite maybe, like almost a self-parody or close to what detractors thought he was doing.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link
Max von Sydow didn't turn into a werewolf, so it sucked
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link
Count Floyd: "Oh well, it wasn't scary but they got depressed at the end, didn't they, kids? You think it's not scary to be depressed? Did you see them? They, they couldn't... function in this world... with the faces... all those faces..."
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 26 April 2021 00:37 (three years ago) link
Watched this again last night and the crescendo of the old couple slipping under the door and terrorizing Diane until she finds the gun to end her screams ... it's just unbelievable what this guy does with overlapping images and sounds and effects. Nothing else like it in film excepting maybe the end of The Return.
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 26 April 2021 00:51 (three years ago) link
Yep. Besides all his weirdness and originality, he's also just a virtuoso of image and sound.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:17 (three years ago) link
Lol at Count Floyd coming over from the Midnight Cowboy thread. #onethread
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link
What's amazing is how the old couple are smiling in exactly the same way at the beginning and end of the film. They might even be more terrifying in that hired car after meeting Betty/Diane.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that whole thing is WTF.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link
Like where are they going and why are they behaving that way?
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
Having not watched this in the intervening decades since it came out all I could remember was the prurient interest and the general vibe, so was pleasantly surprised how much good stuff there was from beginning to end to appreciate. I don’t have much to add on that front. Trying to think of their is any use in comparing with a film on a somewhat similar theme, The Limey, but the two movies are so different, maybe don’t want to go there.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link
Also trying to remember the substance of a National Lampoon Bergman parody I read once, The Høwl of the Muppets.
― A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
xxp the smiles and laughter of the old couple are echoed by Adam Kesher and Camilla Rhodes later in the filmhttps://www.mulholland-drive.net/pics/cast/oldcouple1.jpghttps://www.mulholland-drive.net/pics/cast/adam_camilla.jpg(images from mulholland-drive.net where of course someone noticed it way before I did https://www.mulholland-drive.net/theories/18.htm )
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:11 (three years ago) link
That’s an interesting pairing of images, but it’s hard to take a site seriously that conflates the two different “realities”:
First, we've seen how the hitman operates. It is hardly a stretch to imagine him taking out Adam in the process of killing Camilla. In fact, I think it's a bit of a stretch to imagine him killing ONLY Camilla. This guy murdered a vacuum sweeper for crying out loud.
― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link
(FWIW, I only vaguely know what to make of the old couple, but it does seem awfully reductive to declare they “represent Adam and Camilla”)
― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:18 (three years ago) link
I don't think the hitman is in the dream reality, he doesn't interact with any of those characters. Some "reality" elements are intercut with Diane's Betty dream (e.g. Dan in the diner). Oddly Adam is the only character who seems to have continuity/identity through both worlds, although several faces repeat.And no, I don't think that the old couple "represent Adam and Camilla" any more than the diner waitress Betty/Diane "represents" Diane/Betty. The whole film is about twinning, representation, offset realities, dream logic.
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:28 (three years ago) link
Oh, that’s interesting, I definitely don’t agree with that first part of what you wrote… but cool to hear the idea! I guess there’s a lot of ways to read even just the basic “presentation” of the movie.
― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:32 (three years ago) link
tbh I'm not even sure I agree with myself!
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link
I mentioned this movie to a friend, and he wrote: “Napkin… NAPKIN!!!!!”So I guess there are more memorable quotes than I initially thought.
― Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf (CBTL) stan (morrisp), Thursday, 13 May 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link
So glad I watched this again.
― Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 May 2021 01:07 (three years ago) link
I’m watching Barry Lyndon—there’s a nice analogue of the dinner party scene near the beginning of the movie (it doesn’t play out the same way, of course…).
― like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Saturday, 5 June 2021 06:13 (two years ago) link