COLORED VINYL: CLASSIC OR DUD

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Bud Powell's "Broadcast Sessions Vol. 1" on ESP is on red vinyl with some sexy black spots.

In general I'm not a fan.

ian, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:28 (eleven years ago) link

looks nice but sounds shit, usually

phillippa minge (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:30 (eleven years ago) link

Classic, but I also really like picture disks

prosciutto-wrapped Hot Pocket (los blue jeans), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:31 (eleven years ago) link

board's off to a good start here, thanks for your contributions guys.

It's often really hard to see the track demarcations on colored vinyl, so that's more points off.

ian, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:32 (eleven years ago) link

my white vinyl john dowie 45 on factory is thee noisiest record i have owned, but having said that there's lots of recent things pressed at gzvinyl on colour that sound pretty damn good

phillippa minge (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:33 (eleven years ago) link

Super classic - the 1st gen 45s that RCA put out that were colored by genre

prosciutto-wrapped Hot Pocket (los blue jeans), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

i love splatter vinyl

http://www.slumberlandrecords.com/img/mike-splash.jpg

phillippa minge (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:36 (eleven years ago) link

who uses gzvinyl, just out of curiosity? i am becoming more and more interested in the difference between pressing plants. will rep for brooklyn phono, of course.

ian, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:38 (eleven years ago) link

it seemed a lot more prevalent in the mid-00s, i have heaps of UK indie vinyl and stuff on 555 that was done there, but i haven't seen anything out of there in recent years. wondering if the price went a bit crazy..

phillippa minge (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:40 (eleven years ago) link

torche - meanderthal on "lizard skin" (robotic empire) is super pretty. sounds good too!

jjjusten, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:44 (eleven years ago) link

generally however do my best not to give a fuck tbh

jjjusten, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 05:44 (eleven years ago) link

i like CDs.

LOL me a LOL (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 06:05 (eleven years ago) link

so I vote whatever is between classic and dud.

LOL me a LOL (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 06:05 (eleven years ago) link

CDs usually have a lot of colors on them.

ian, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 06:07 (eleven years ago) link

I like colored ones more than silver ones!

LOL me a LOL (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 06:12 (eleven years ago) link

well there you go then

jjjusten, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 06:13 (eleven years ago) link

This is probably something I've just made up, but it seems based on a sample size of about 5, transparent coloured vinyl sounds way more shit than opaque coloured vinyl.

someone who is ranked fairly highly in an army of poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 09:13 (eleven years ago) link

Coloured vinyl = classic, definitely.

Possibly the most classic of classic coloured vinyl = Kenny Everett's World's Worst Record Show on PUKE GREEN vinyl. (Okay, it was actually turquoise, but still... PUKE GREEN.)

emil.y, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 10:43 (eleven years ago) link

http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lp_side32.jpg

it is pretty; probably best to have on stray seven inches that you play once in a while and preserve the novelty of.

colored vinyl edition wantlist:
green ege bamyasi
white safe as milk

the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

The first two records I ever got were Beatles white vinyl White Album and translucent blue vinyl 1967-1970... so, classic.

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

it's tough to spin translucent colored or clear vinyl while DJing. i always tried to work in this song by the immortal lee country killers into my usual set, but their second album is on clear vinyl and it was almost impossible to get it right.

Then, it dawned on me: "I HAVE BEEN PLAYED!" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

I have an opaque bubble-gum pink 7" somewhere in a pink vinyl envelope. It's adorable. I haven't played it in probably 15 years but it's awfully cute.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

with translucent vinyl, I find I can only ever see the track marks on the flip side.

best "Courtroom/Lesbian Scene" titties (gnarly sceptre), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

http://rnrnonsense.toomanyvoices.com/img/200803/SimpleMindsVinyl.jpg

<3

velko, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

it's tough to spin translucent colored or clear vinyl while DJing. i always tried to work in this song by the immortal lee country killers into my usual set, but their second album is on clear vinyl and it was almost impossible to get it right.

― Then, it dawned on me: "I HAVE BEEN PLAYED!" (omar little), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:20 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

They have these things called headphones and mixers that DJs like to use, they are very helpful for finding a track

babywantstofu (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

it's harder to see the grooves between songs on clear vinyl, dummy

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ cd buyer giving DJ advice

ian, Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

looks nice but sounds shit, usually

people say this but I have done limited pressings where the first 100 are color and the next 900 aren't and a/b'd the color with the black vinyl and heard no diff at all - the weight of the vinyl has a huge effect on the sound but I don't think the color does

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

i actually think that colored vinyl and picture disc vinyl quality has VASTLY improved over the years. there are new reissues that come out as picture discs and they sound great. i've got some of those celtic frost reissues and they're great. i don't know why this is. heavier higher quality vinyl is probably the answer. old picture discs from the 70's seemed to be more collectable/gimmick for fans. they probably didn't care as much about quality.

scott seward, Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

i think certain colours really do. i have a sparkly gold vinyl single by ash (yeah yeah) which clearly has embedded shiny things in it and it is so noisy it's not funny, which i think is directly because of this. i have found that all picture discs are noisier too, though i don't know how different the clear part of the vinyl is to a regular clear vinyl record

cymbal is more bronze than you (electricsound), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:22 (eleven years ago) link

xpost

cymbal is more bronze than you (electricsound), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:22 (eleven years ago) link

of course the difference is truly minute anyway so perhaps it's not worth discussing at length

some of those coloured sub pop 45s are amongst the better sounding records i own so

cymbal is more bronze than you (electricsound), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:23 (eleven years ago) link

of course the difference is truly minute anyway so perhaps it's not worth discussing at length

I feel that such a sentiment runs counter to the spirit of a board called "I Love Vinyl"

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

i'm just trying to contract myself at least twice in the same thread dontchaknow

cymbal is more bronze than you (electricsound), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

contraDICT

cymbal is more bronze than you (electricsound), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

a friend of mine always used to recommend getting coloured vinyl as you were always going to get virgin vinyl but with black you may get recycled vinyl which is apparently noisier. this was sydney in the 80s though so i'm sure things are different now

cymbal is more bronze than you (electricsound), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:28 (eleven years ago) link

It's often really hard to see the track demarcations on colored vinyl, so that's more points off.

generally it is classic but this is my big reservation.

easily-led zeppelin (haitch), Thursday, 16 July 2009 04:15 (eleven years ago) link

hard to cue up that DJ medhi pic disc, f'rinstance

easily-led zeppelin (haitch), Thursday, 16 July 2009 04:15 (eleven years ago) link

i'd also like to note that the red vinyl pressings on get back tend to sound like ass.

ian, Thursday, 16 July 2009 04:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.erolalkan.co.uk/site/wp-content/themes/mimbo2.2/images/vv-lo.jpg

love this (fan death, 'veronica's veil')

easily-led zeppelin (haitch), Thursday, 16 July 2009 04:47 (eleven years ago) link

haha there's an act called 'fan death'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

Fan death is a South Korean urban legend which states that an electric fan, if left running overnight in a closed room, can cause the death of those inside (by suffocation, poisoning, or hypothermia). Fans manufactured and sold in Korea are equipped with a timer switch that turns them off after a set number of minutes, which users are frequently urged to set when going to sleep with a fan on.

thomp, Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

i have friends that are VERY anti-colored vinyl because the sound quality is supposedly super-duper bad.

how much worse are talkin?

corn futures hoof gang till them all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:27 (ten years ago) link

ime translucent colored vinyl sounds worse than opaque colored vinyl

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:31 (ten years ago) link

i like colored vinyl, it's fun

69, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:34 (ten years ago) link

i see colonel poo already offered up the same opinion so there you have it, scientifically proven.

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:41 (ten years ago) link

recently discovered that The Police - Synchronicity is on subtle colored vinyl, you have to hold it up to a light to tell the diff. I have purple and aquamarine copies.

very wary hairy Barry (herb albert), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:47 (ten years ago) link

thats more than a coincidence

69, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:59 (ten years ago) link

If colored vinyl makes the bad sound, maybe this is why I never got into Spacemen 3.

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:00 (ten years ago) link

never sure what side to take in the colored vinyl vs supposedly pure black debate. black is dyed too, right? if the vinyl quality and mastering are good, and if the pressing plant knows what it's doing, colored vinyl can sound great - just as good as black or clear or whatever. if not, then not. i get the impression that, for a long time, colored vinyl was seen and often pressed as a novelty and thus not always produced to terribly high standards. as a result, it got a rep for being cruddy that still persists, valid or not.

white vinyl pressings from less quality-obsessed companies do often seem to be noisy as hell, but there's all kinds of shitty-sounding records out there nowadays, so...

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Saturday, 30 October 2010 08:43 (ten years ago) link

yeah in all honesty if it's virgin vinyl and mastered/pressed well the noise difference will be minimal to none

although the noisiest record i have is a white vinyl one - john dowie's 'it's hard to be an egg' - makes a flexi sound like mfsl

dronestorm (electricsound), Saturday, 30 October 2010 08:47 (ten years ago) link

hmm i'm both contradicting and repeating myself in one post, i'll just get me record bag & go

dronestorm (electricsound), Saturday, 30 October 2010 08:47 (ten years ago) link

the police's music is of such poor quality that recording any of their music to black vinyl will tinge it slightly purple or aquamarine

secret haven 76 (crüt), Saturday, 30 October 2010 08:47 (ten years ago) link

a bunch of late 80s & 90s records, from the tail end of the major label vinyl era, are pressed on ridiculously thin wax, like super floppy and quasi-translucent. especially "nice price" or foreign pressings. if you hold them up to the light they look grey, brown or purplish. i mean, that's my guess. or maybe they were just getting super subtle with the colored vinyl thing at that point.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Saturday, 30 October 2010 08:55 (ten years ago) link

love this Liars 10". red with black shards.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/102/298458877_f0a0bcfdba.jpg

dmr, Saturday, 30 October 2010 11:02 (ten years ago) link

mine doesn't have as much white in it

dmr, Saturday, 30 October 2010 11:02 (ten years ago) link

"george" by beyond the wizards sleeve is kinda tie-dyed looking

dmr, Saturday, 30 October 2010 11:03 (ten years ago) link

white and clear are the biggest bitch to cue up and find songs

dmr, Saturday, 30 October 2010 11:04 (ten years ago) link

^DJ Pro-tip

Trip Maker, Saturday, 30 October 2010 14:43 (ten years ago) link

the only two coloured vinyl i have (boris and merzbow "rock dream" purple vinyl and andrew wk "close calls with brick walls" variety of different colours iirc) sound terrible.

Truther Vandross (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 30 October 2010 14:48 (ten years ago) link

i have friends that are VERY anti-colored vinyl because the sound quality is supposedly super-duper bad.

afaik "colored vinyl sounds bad" is received-wisdom bs - the things that matter in the pressing of vinyl are the quality of the master and the thickness of the vinyl. thicker is better. if anybody can cite any empirical data about why the color of the vinyl would make any difference at all, that'd be very interesting, but I've talked to multiple mastering dudes about this q (& anybody who's into music: treat yourself sometime to a mastering session at a reputable mastering house, there is an incredible amount of srsly cool stuff to learn from these dudes, they are like wise soothsayer-scientist dudes in my experience) and they all say it shouldn't make a difference at all what color the vinyl has been dyed. the idea that black vinyl ought to sound better, especially, is some confirmation-bias nonsense

some interesting stuff (and some nonsense imo) on this gearslutz thread

thickness is a weird thing, too, because the primary advantage to thickness, as i understand it, is that it prevents warpage, which is all to the good. some people say that it also allows the grooves to be cut deeper, and that this has an effect on the sound, but i dunno. i've had it on good authority that this is horseshit, that the cuts in vinyl even at their deepest are so shallow as to make this a non-issue. not an expert, so i can't say. personally, i've noticed that relatively thin records from the 70s and 80s (again, the end of the major label vinyl era) often sound GREAT, and i suspect that this is because they were being made in state-of-the art facilities by well-paid old-school pros to extremely high standards. i mean, until recently, when it's become fashionable, even high-end audiophile pressings didn't tend to be super thick.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Saturday, 30 October 2010 17:33 (ten years ago) link

and, yeah, cool to read the pro talk from those pressing plant folks on the gearslutz thread

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Saturday, 30 October 2010 17:39 (ten years ago) link

DEEP GROOVE MONO LEXINGTON AVE

not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 30 October 2010 18:25 (ten years ago) link

clear vinyl ime is flimsier which is likely why it sounds worse.

omar little, Saturday, 30 October 2010 18:43 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

huh... waited 5 months for something to get sent to me. coloured vinyl. Sounds like ass

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 22 June 2017 13:28 (three years ago) link


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