OMG, People Buy Records? Vinyl In The News Thread

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St Louis got in on this hot new trend earlier this month

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/a-new-generation-discovers-vinyl/article_e04fdbc1-a9e9-5b7c-a3ac-733eb394763e.html

Sam Wolter, a freshman in college, returned home to Kirkwood for the holidays, determined to go back to school for his second semester with something he had left behind.

A record player.

“I missed it too much,” Wolter said, while sifting through albums at Vintage Vinyl in University City on a recent Sunday. “All my friends are bringing theirs, too.”

A record player? That plays vinyl records? A college student?

dmr, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

My god, that last one has so many misconceptions I don’t even know where to begin.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

"vinyl is coming back -- even becoming popular with people who weren't alive when records were being made."

So people who died before 1890 are even on board! Very interesting.

Evan, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

the funny thing is, I saw that article because one of St Louis' better record stores posted it on Facebook with no irony

dmr, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

Which one?

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link

Vintage Vinyl

(now I'll probably get zinged for calling them one of STL's better record stores, I haven't been there in years)

I guess they posted it cause they were quoted

dmr, Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

Man, I have such good memories of being a dorky little teenager and going into Vintage Vinyl. I think they're still pretty alright, haven't gone in a while.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:12 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I liked it too. nowadays if I'm ever in Missouri I usually only have time to hit one store and it's usually Euclid. or Record Exchange.

dmr, Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

Subject: Vinyl Records
Date: Jan 24, 2013 3:29 PM
We saved article from yesterdays USA TODAY regarding Vinyl record sales- Vinyl up over last five years 5000%- CDs down 13%.FYI DAD

scott seward, Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

is that really true? I would love to see a Billboard weekly chart of vinyl sales.

sleeve, Friday, 25 January 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

LP/Vinyl Albums Sales(LP/Vinyl Records)



Title / Artist

Units Sold

1.

BLUNDERBUSSJACK WHITE

18,000

2.

EL CAMINOBLACK KEYS

17,600

3.

ABBEY ROADBEATLES

15,700

4.

BLOOM
BEACH HOUSE

14,100

5.

21ADELE

10,300

6.

PORT OF MORROWSHINS

9,600

7.

SIGH NO MOREMUMFORD & SONS

9,600

8.

BOYS & GIRLSALABAMA SHAKES

9,400

9.

FOR EMMA FOREVER AGOBON IVER

9,200

10.

BON IVERBON IVER

8,900

scott seward, Friday, 25 January 2013 01:37 (eleven years ago) link

my dad doesn't actually know what he's talking about. but vinyl sales rise a little bit every year. a whopping two percent of sales last year.

scott seward, Friday, 25 January 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

UggGgHHharhghgh there's going to be a segment about the "resurgence of vinyl" tonight on NBC nightly news with Brian Williams

brimstead, Saturday, 2 March 2013 01:32 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/51013811/#51013811

Chuckled a little at the token indie nerd at United, dude looks like Paul Rudd.

new hope for orang-utan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 2 March 2013 04:10 (eleven years ago) link

oh man the first thing i see is my pal nina playing violin!!!! so cool. her and willy are both from MVI. she's amazing.

they just HAD to add some crackle to that album at the end!

scott seward, Saturday, 2 March 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

why do they ALWAYS have to start with: HEY REMEMBER THOSE BIG ROUND THINGS WITH THE HOLE IN THE MIDDLE?

is it, like, a law or something.

― scott seward, Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:10 PM (3 years ago)

Still true, apparently!

Evan, Monday, 4 March 2013 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

In this case, "Yeah those rounds things with the grooves in them!" or something.

Evan, Monday, 4 March 2013 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

Finally, a (mild) backlash against the (mild) increase in vinyl sales!

The Jacket Bastard (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 14 March 2013 08:36 (eleven years ago) link

that ridiculous article led me to this scott neuman clown's twitter feed which is equal parts hilarious and infuriating. that guy must be a gigantic fucking crook. please show me the two classical lps you appraised at 20k each, sir. how is "vinyl appraiser" even a viable occupation in 2013? he's pissed at stores for allegedly ripping off grandmas because he thought he'd cornered that market
himself.

"Our current fee is $20.00 for the first item of the appraisal and $5.00 for each additional item."

https://twitter.com/forevervinyl

moe handy, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

Even if it were true, the chances that a classical record is worth money is that much rarer due to the piles of them the target reader likely has covered in mold in their basement/garage. Given that, it would be protocol for most people to offer not much more than 10 cents per clean copy as a blanket rule.

Evan, Thursday, 21 March 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link

For $20, I'll happily look up your records on collectorsfrenzy.com and even cross reference with discogs for an extra $10.

Evan, Thursday, 21 March 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

record appraisal is going to be my new business, thanks

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 21 March 2013 04:38 (eleven years ago) link

Looking at my proprietary vinyl appraising software, a laptop with forevervinyl.com decal stickers an equipped with the latest google databases, it looks like this record sold last year for $15, but I analyzed the description against your copy and it seems yours is not "MINT white label promo shrink RARE!!!!!!! CLASSIC ROCK T. REX KANSAS BEATLES PEARL JAM", therefore it is worth upwards of $5 at peak.

That'll be $20 please.

Evan, Thursday, 21 March 2013 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

But once you find one of those $20,000 classical albums your appraisal fees are taken care of for literally months.

killfiled by life (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 22 March 2013 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

I took a phone call from someone looking to unload their neglected 70s and 80s vinyl for $$$ the other day when I was in the local shop.
Man, I would not want to have that conversation every day.

A group of ladies brought in a grip of crap another time. "Are Boz Scaggs records very common?" Sigh

Trip Maker, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

Nothing against Boz, Boz is cool.

Trip Maker, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

its' stuff like that that was really driving me batty toward the end of my record store tenure. i just can't handle having to crush peoples dreams every day.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

haha! that's part of my job and honestly i'm kinda used to it/good at doing it gently.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 March 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

I once had a moderately heartbreaking conversation w my mom about the value of her old blues project LPs.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 March 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

sucky village voice actually bringing half a LOL:

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2013/04/vinyl_is_back.php

scott seward, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

Do Kids Even Know What Records Are?
Pressed vinyl as a musical format is old. Children, on the other hand, are not old. What happens when these two things meet? Who cares, but write about it anyway

scott seward, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

What's nuts is that I encounter people once a week it seems that are surprised people are buying vinyl records still. And that new bands are producing vinyl. So I guess these articles will be rewritten until that stops.

Evan, Friday, 26 April 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

it will never stop

there's a great little record shop in knoxville, wild honey. the guy who runs the store is amazingly good at letting people down who bring in their crap vinyl to sell. he's mastered the art. it helps that he can point them toward the 2nd hand store down the road.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 April 2013 03:28 (eleven years ago) link

Just witnessed the dick manager at Academy annex do that today. Though doing that particular thing is not dickish.

Evan, Saturday, 27 April 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link

the guy who runs the store is amazingly good at letting people down who bring in their crap vinyl to sell.

This is a difficult skill to master. I try to gently talk people down a little if they're hype up on $$$ INTERNET PRICES $$$, but thankfully I don't have to do the final heartbreaking bit.

You can fondle the cube but it will not respond. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 28 April 2013 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

part of his zen is that he says (in a much nicer and calming way), "wow, this is really cool.... i love this record.... looks like your (father/grandfather/mother/cousin/whatever) really liked it too. it looks like he played it a lot. that's the problem--everybody wants something really clean and unplayed, but most people played their good records a bunch. so it's kind of ironic."

usually at that point he gets knowing nods from the people who 5 minutes ago were hoping to get like $30 per record or something.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 29 April 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link

the folks at the amoeba buy counter use the same line every time across the board, "well you could have a yard sale..." which is about as zen as they get. generally speaking the amoeba buyers are not particularly zen and sometimes are a bit aggro.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 29 April 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

I use the yard sale line. also tell people they can go around the corner to the salvation army and that their donation would be tax deductible.

I get to the point pretty quickly now. If its stuff I don't want I tell people point blank that I just can't sell it in my store. or I lie and say that I already have too much of whatever they have. which isn't always a lie. but I stress the MY STORE part. and tell them that other stores might want it or that they could try craigslist.

scott seward, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:30 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

This one's not horrible. I like Kozinn when he writes about the Beatles.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/10/arts/music/vinyl-records-are-making-a-comeback.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 9 June 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link

this one is actually worth reading! and is on the money.

http://thewire.co.uk/in-writing/essays/collateral-damage_numero-group-on-the-vinyl-bubble

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

the baseball card analogy is interesting, but as I think the article implies, the value of a record is more than just as a "collectible." So as long as you have reasonably priced, nicely packaged vinyl and an audience of people who believe the sound and tactile experience are preferable, you have a vinyl market. If the market is relying on people who think they're investing, then obviously that's not sustainable.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

right and the bigger labels (and not so big) have been acting like big baseball card and big comic book. trying to gouge every last dime out of people while they can instead of just delivering affordable quality products. labels aren't making ANY money on compact discs so why not try and get the most money possible out of this new vinyl craze.

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

they're assholes basically.

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

but then we knew that already.

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

But the limited reissues of those super common Taj Mahal records are only $32.99!

Evan, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure these companies believe if they knock the gimmickry incentives down even a notch than a huge portion of potential buyers will settle with digital downloads over the vinyl/download combo.

Evan, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

$12 jazz reissues are cool

a very generous Cordoban (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 16:30 (eleven years ago) link


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