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it's just struck me how natural it is that many religions see their god as a parent figure, since parents constitute the ENTIRETY of kids' relationships to the rest of the world, at least for a good little while

you have literally created them, just as god is meant to have created humankind, but you also nurture them and show them right from wrong. you also, perhaps subconsciously, attempt to attain a kind of perfection that your kids can emulate

it can't be healthy though in the long run for kids to have such an unrealistic view of their parents. i know that eventually it changes, kids start resenting their parents for tiny things

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 March 2009 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah it's totally weird how much of the world parents create for their kids. But isn't one of the early (and insistently repeated) lessons of parenting that so much (especially your kids themselves) is out of your control? Resistant to your god-like decrees?

Also, I'm pretty sure God gets to sleep through the fucking night.

f f murray abraham (G00blar), Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

only 1/7th of the time

note: any and all comma splices in this post are intentional (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

The resentment starts as soon as you're competing for some resource, like the last brownie or your partner's love. Your godlike status doesn't last very long. But something like it does: you set all kinds of standards of what's normal for your kids. I don't think that much is unhealthy (it depends on the standards I guess).

Euler, Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I suppose if parents are godlike, we're Miltonic gods, and our kids are "sufficient to have stood, though free to fall."

f f murray abraham (G00blar), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, Dallas, you shine with an evil light.
Don't you know that god stays up all night?

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Friday, 13 March 2009 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link

^^excellent display name btw

f f murray abraham (G00blar), Friday, 13 March 2009 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

But isn't one of the early (and insistently repeated) lessons of parenting that so much (especially your kids themselves) is out of your control?

Yes, it's often said to the parents (which is supersilly cause you have to be really thick not to realize this). But the child doesn't realize. I am so aware of this all the time: how I'm setting all these standards for them. And how it evolves and also in a tiny way adapts to which child I'm reprimanding (for example).

I sometimes become extremely strict just... to show Ophelia that ultimately mommy is the "boss".

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Friday, 13 March 2009 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I very early on decided that no one--especially me--would call my daughter "princess" for a variety of reasons, mainly so she won't think she is one, but also because I can't handle the burden of being king.

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Friday, 13 March 2009 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha. I read a card the other week when picking out birthdays cards for the 5000 pisceans in my life that said something along the lines of 'Happy Birthday to our Princess!' then inside '(we only call you that because it makes us the king and queen)'

beeps started calling my mom 'princess' and we have no idea why.

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Friday, 13 March 2009 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha Ive been cwary of this as well, most gender theory Ive read is bunk but I dont want a spoilt little princess type.

I may be telling myself lies but Im not feeling the god theory much. I dont know any parent who thinks or acts like God, most just do the best they can, children otoh lack the critical skills to make high level judgements,is= ought, maybe an inbuilt search for order, fear of unknown etc buggered if I know -theyre passive dogmatic little critters though and extremes of parental permissivness or authoritariansim aint healthy.

Im more of a clown than God to my little girl I imagine

Kiwi, Saturday, 14 March 2009 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not sure i've ever felt like god. the imperiousness in the relationship is much more on the child side -- they're all about their own wants and needs, and they expect me to fulfill them. which isn't to deny the obvious power relationship, which they might resent but they of coure recognize. they know who's in control. but they try to circumvent it as much as possible. which maybe is how god would feel, i don't know.

but sure, the conception of the father-god is derived from the parent-child relationship. and not just god, all authority figures to some degree. there's been a lot of political stuff written about how liberals/democrats are the nurturing "mommy" and conservatives/republicans are the stern punishing "daddy." it's hard to escape those models of power.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 March 2009 06:19 (thirteen years ago) link


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