Kids say the darndest things

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I had to post this, since I've been cracking up about it since Saturday.

The boys were in the bath, and they started screeching:


My wife: Ben! Use your inside voice.

Ben (quietly): eeeeeEEEEEeeeee.

schwantz, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I heartily endorse this thread/post.

PappaWheelie V, Monday, 2 February 2009 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

When I told Ophelia told her for the gazillionth time to put her hand in front of her mouth when coughing.

"I don't have any coughs anymore."

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Every male person outside the family is currently known and greeted as 'Funny Man'. Or occasionally 'Mr Tumble' (the latter unfortunately applies to women as well).

Archel, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link


JAM, DWANGELA, RELLY! (sunny successor), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

In the elevator at the gym with my wife, Owen read another woman's thoughts by asking "are you twins?" and then answered himself "yeah."

schwantz, Saturday, 7 February 2009 05:39 (thirteen years ago) link


JAM, DWANGELA, RELLY! (sunny successor), Saturday, 7 February 2009 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Thank you for starting this thread. I love this stuff.

A friend at work has a two year old who has started using "Obama" as a name for pretty much everyone. He asks qustions all the time about Obama too. They're potty training him and so the other night she was asking Henry who poops. He said, "Mama poops and Daddy poops and Henry poops!" She asked who else poops thinking he's say grandma or something and he replied with, "Obama poops!!"

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Saturday, 7 February 2009 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

my 7 year old nephew to his mom:

"I stopped sucking my thumb. When you get older it loses its taste."

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link

That is exactly what I concluded about thumb-sucking (at an embarrassingly older age). Though it took having my arm in a plaster cast for seemingly years (I broke my arm three times in quick succession) to stop me in the end.

Also, Obama totally does poop!

Archel, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Re: Honeymoon - "Did you GO to the moon?"

lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 February 2009 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

my son when 3ish, upon eating something good: "I can't believe my mouth!" I promise he made this up himself.

Euler, Thursday, 12 February 2009 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link


Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Thursday, 12 February 2009 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

My kids are too old for their current sayings to be here...

But, Alice (particularly) would say such WTF things back in the day. Most (or, man) are all over ILE, but here's one of the top ones...

She was about four, I reckon.

I was explaining the whole "eggs in mummy's tummy" business.

Alice: "But how did the eggs get there?"
Me: "They were all there when Mummy was born"
Alice: "hmm. So, that means My egg and Amber's egg are exactly the same age"
Me: ".... yeah!"
Alice: (saying nothing, but now has decided Amber doesn't have 2 years superiority anymore)

Mark G, Friday, 13 February 2009 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Ophelia told her father: "Wannes is in love with me." I know, not the darndest thing but still made go all AAAAAWWWWWWWWW.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 13 February 2009 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

my son when 3ish, upon eating something good: "I can't believe my mouth!" I promise he made this up himself.

― Euler, Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:20 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

Get that kid a TV commercial.

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Sunday, 22 February 2009 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link

haha yeah

i was driving beeps home from daycare last week and had silver jews playing in the car. so black and brown blues comes on and i start singing along at the top of my voice when i look in the rear view mirror and beeps is smacking her knee along with the song with a big smile on her face. she catches me looking at her and says 'you go, mama!'. let it be known i have the worst singing voice ever. kid is good for the ego.

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Sunday, 22 February 2009 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I will work on the tv thing!

I love that my kids love my singing. It helps that it's mutual; when they're caterwauling away I tend to complement them (you know, like you do when they bring you their latest painting or sculpture).

My youngest kid, age 2, went canvassing with my wife for the Dems during the campaign last fall. Now she's taken to calling the paper subscription inserts in magazines, "Democrats". I guess it's because they're like the voter info cards that we distributed? But now she is hoarding a big pile of these things and gets angry when you take her Democrats. Silly stuff but I love it.

Euler, Sunday, 22 February 2009 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I love that all the two year old kids in SF know and mangle the words "Barack Obama."

schwantz, Monday, 23 February 2009 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing like this ever happens to me

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 23 February 2009 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Howie knows a lot of animal names but always calls a cat "Miaow", even though he can spell the word. Hence the following conversation:

Us: "Howie, what's the first letter of cat?"
Howie: "C!"
"And what's the second letter of cat?"
"And what's the last letter of cat?"
"[Pointing to letters in book] So, what does 'C-A-T' spell, Howie?"
"[Thinks for a moment...} Miaow!"

Meg (Meg Busset), Monday, 23 February 2009 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

my nearly 12-week-old has been babbling non-stop. it's such a nice change from shrieking.

Oh Why, Sports Coat? (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 26 February 2009 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

(Apologies if I've already told this story on ILX, can't remember)

A few weeks ago, Ava was being extremely naughty, pushing Pam away, shouting "Don't talk to me! Don't look at me!", etc. Pam wrote down "Naughty girls don't get visits from their friends or treats or get to go to the park" on a slip of paper and handed it to the noncommunicative hell-child.

Ava read it out loud, looked at the paper for a few seconds and then announced, "I'm going to tear this into tiny pieces." It was all Pam could do not to burst out laughing right there...

Michael Jones, Saturday, 28 February 2009 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

haa :)

ice cr?m, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

this morning: "there are so many things in this room, it's like an optical course"

鬼の手 (Edward III), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

SS, that's the cutest thing ever! Ophelia requests all my music to stop playing so she can listen to her music. Grrr. Elisabeth loves most music we play. This morning she immediately started waving her hand when Marvin Gaye started singing. She also looooves Pulsinger.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Sunday, 1 March 2009 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

its still so weird to me these little creatures have already developed their own tastes. that silver jews moment was a rare one. usually she'll sit there going 'wonderpets? wonderpets? wonderpets? wonderpets? brobie? wonderpets? wonderpets? wonderpets? wonderpets? wonderpets? " etc until we put it on.

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Sunday, 1 March 2009 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

nickelodeon brainwash

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Sunday, 1 March 2009 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

she found a tampon and asked what it was. i mumbled her mommy bleeds every month and that it stops the bleeding.

"so mommy leaks."

uh yeah, i guess....

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Edward, I'm amazed. That's amazing.

How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

We remembered another one from our son a few years back, when he was 2-ish: out of the blue one day, he asked "why we is not ducks?". I didn't know what to say. Really, why? The mind boggles.

Euler, Saturday, 7 March 2009 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link

My friend did this facebook thing earlier where she had to ask her kids a series of questions about herself and write in their answers. Her sons are around 6 and 4, I think.

Q: How tall is your Mom?

A: "15 degrees" -Ben "Probably 10 inches high" -Zac

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Saturday, 7 March 2009 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link

i seriously can't get over "15 degrees"

been HOOS, where yyyou steene!? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 7 March 2009 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I know, I love it.

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Saturday, 7 March 2009 05:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I showed Beeps a full page face ad of Gisele Bündchen in the lastest issure of Glamour and asked 'who is that?' She replied 'Mama!' Damn straight.

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Sunday, 8 March 2009 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

keep that one around!

yur twit (tehresa), Sunday, 8 March 2009 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link

hopefully her eyesight will never improve

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Sunday, 8 March 2009 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Howie does that when we read the book 'Terrible Trolls' -- points at them and says "Mummy! Daddy!"

I will have to send him round to Beeps for some training.

Meg (Meg Busset), Sunday, 8 March 2009 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I showed Beeps a full page face ad of Gisele Bündchen in the lastest issure of Glamour and asked 'who is that?' She replied 'Mama!' Damn straight.

A keeper! :-)

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Monday, 9 March 2009 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

z (4-yr-old) industriously constructing puzzle on the floor, while rex (11 mos.) repeatedly crawls through it, picks up pieces, sticks them in his mouth, etc. z fairly patiently nudges rex away two or three times, says "no, rex," but on about the 4th time, in exasperation, he yelps, "DAMMIT REX!"

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link

kids swearing: classic. One of my kids didn't really understand what the word dammit was, so he'd say, "debit", as in "debit card", which got us off the hook with my mother-in-law.

Euler, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

z (4-yr-old) industriously constructing puzzle on the floor, while rex (11 mos.) repeatedly crawls through it, picks up pieces, sticks them in his mouth, etc. z fairly patiently nudges rex away two or three times, says "no, rex," but on about the 4th time, in exasperation, he yelps, "DAMMIT REX!"

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, March 16, 2009 6:50 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

ok so this is the funniest/cuetest thing i have read in a while

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Agreed. That's so cute.

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link

it cracked us up. but i guess we need to do some policing of it before he gets to kindergarten.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Apparently in kindergarten I referred to a toy car as "that goddamn son of a bitch". Wasn't mad, that's just what I called it.

WmC, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

i once very cheerfully yelled to my pal "see you later, asshole!" as our parents were taking us home from preschool. my mom was not, uh, thrilled

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

^ That is awesome.

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

ha i once came home from school in 1st or 2nd grade and told my parents "the bus driver is an asshole" not really knowing what that meant :-/

HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Alice has been known to bang her fist on the table and yell 'dammit!' but I strongly suspect her dad has been coaching her for his own amusement. Though come to think of it she's also started a thing of regularly shouting 'it's a deal!' and shaking hands with us. Clearly a future CEO :(

Archel, Thursday, 19 March 2009 09:36 (thirteen years ago) link

OK, heree goez:

In Venice, back at the flat, playing whist:

Mum: "Hearts!"
Alice: (Oh, fuMMMFTH)

The sound of Alice slapping her hand over her mouth, too late.
She got embarrassed, we just laffed. (She was 8)

Mark G, Monday, 23 March 2009 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

We were walking home from school recently and a girl in my kid's 1st grade class was near us and when she turned at the corner she pointed at my son and said "I'M SENDING YOU TO HELL". He smiled at pointed back and said "NO, I'M SENDING YOU TO HELL".

I looked back and saw the girl's mom crouched down talking to her, so I went back and talked a bit - the mom wasn't offended at all, but was wondering where her daughter picked up this phrase. I realized that my kid had picked it up the Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode where Ned Flanders was the devil which was kind of a relief to her.

This prompted a discussion on the rest of the walk home about how some people actually get really offended at the use of 'damn' and 'hell', which to him were no where near as bad as some of the other words we constantly use but only at home. We talked about heaven and hell and christianity and crosses, which he realized explained the '"t" necklace' the girl in his class wears (which of course was an arrested development joke and I lost my shit).

Anyway it finished up with talking about mono vs polytheism which led to us googling pictures of hindu deities which he compared favorably to pokemon.

joygoat, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 19:41 (four months ago) link

Have you guys seen this? Flight of the Conchords interview a bunch of cute NZ kids and then write a song with their responses:

DJI, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 19:44 (four months ago) link

My kid recently went through a week of saying "Jah," b/c he learned about how some say that to avoid using the name of God (he wanted to hedge his bets, I guess).

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 19:56 (four months ago) link

— bob marley

mark s, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 19:57 (four months ago) link

the one time i gently corrected her she said "yes i know but my way is better"

lol finally we get the mark s origin story

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:59 (four months ago) link

7yo said the 11yo's wrestling name should be "the masked boner"

she meant bc he is bony

na (NA), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:03 (four months ago) link

Opal's best friend Peter, also 2 months shy of 5 years old said "I remember that time we went to the contest. It was raining and we were at grandma and grandpa's and had signs"

It was a black lives matter protest. Not contest.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:08 (four months ago) link


Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 09:11 (three months ago) link

i had a jazz record on last night - grant green - and i mentioned his solo, and my 13yo is like “you mean guitars can…. solo?” and i was like wow, we’ve come a long way, baby

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 09:13 (three months ago) link

"I like blood, but only when it's in a body, not when it's coming out"

silverfish, Monday, 24 January 2022 03:10 (three months ago) link


terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 24 January 2022 03:33 (three months ago) link

A public swimming pool near our place was recently demolished. When the fence had been put up and they were getting ready to knock it down, my kid (6 or 7 at the time) said "A swimming pool is the only building you can murder because the water is like the blood flowing out".

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Monday, 24 January 2022 06:18 (three months ago) link

"Did she legally change her name to Babe Ruth, or did people just start calling her that?"

False Pretenses Lad (morrisp), Thursday, 3 February 2022 22:51 (three months ago) link

lolololol these are wonderful! I just got caught up and I love all of your amazing genius children.

Probably the most bittersweet thing he said as a toddler was: “When I’m grown up, I’m going to sleep in your bedroom with you and mommy.” Just this conception that he had, of everything in his world being stable and unchanged (except he would move into the grown-up room)… it kind of choked me up.

I remember when my friend's two sons thought they would always live with their mom, and she must have said something like, "But what if you want to get married?" and they said one of them would go find a wife and bring her back home to live--they agreed that the one who was better at kissing had better do it.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 3 February 2022 23:00 (three months ago) link

-I want a spy kit.

-Who would you spy on?

-My parents. Or if there was a poodle walking down the street I would spy on it. "Operation Sus Poodle".

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Friday, 4 February 2022 06:31 (three months ago) link

A riddle.

What did Libya say to the country just south of it?

Hey Chad, stop wearing me as a hat!

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Friday, 4 February 2022 06:33 (three months ago) link

When we're sitting down and our two-year-old wants us to stand up, she now says "Daddy get up your bum" "Mummmy get up your bum". She also likes squatting over a drain and yelling BIG FART BIG FART. Very proud. GET UP YOUR BUM

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 17 February 2022 13:10 (three months ago) link

family of four sitting near to me whilst i was on my break at an airport. little boy slyly kicks younger sister, mum spots him and tells him to apologise, boy denies having kicked sister. mum kicks boy. boy cries and goes to sit next to dad

boy:she kicked me, do something about it
dad: you shouldn't have kicked your sister
boy: but i didn't, and anyway she's not allowed to kick me, do something about it
man: what can i do?
boy: get rid of her!!
man: what???
boy: get rid of her, people do it all the time!

oscar bravo, Thursday, 17 February 2022 14:59 (three months ago) link


transportation hubs are great for witnessing physical abuse

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 18 February 2022 18:23 (three months ago) link

That sounds like the villain origin scene where it's revealed that he's always been a psychopath.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 18 February 2022 18:26 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

4yo telling me about the bad dream that woke him up. In it I apparently asked if he wanted to go to the shops with me but then didn't take him (so was left on his own?).
Anyway, I told him 'that dream's gone away now'. And he said "I hope it's gone into 'George'" (a naughty boy at his pre-school).

kinder, Monday, 7 March 2022 21:44 (two months ago) link

Fuckin George

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 March 2022 00:52 (two months ago) link

take that george

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 March 2022 02:10 (two months ago) link

Tutoring a primary school kid to help him read; the book we'd just finished had superheroes. "Do you like superhero movies?" I ask, trying to find out what kind of stories he likes. "Not reallly". So what kind of movies do you like? None. TV shows? None. Video games? None. So what do you do for fun?

"I just sit around".

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 14 March 2022 12:05 (two months ago) link


Tracer Hand, Monday, 14 March 2022 12:33 (two months ago) link

My 10 year-old added this to the to do list on my desk:


ArchCarrier, Friday, 18 March 2022 08:37 (two months ago) link


kinder, Friday, 18 March 2022 09:41 (two months ago) link

4yo, eating lunch, out of nowhere: i don't even know what a caterpillar's dream is

(turns out he was talking about the Hungry Caterpillar game on the ipad)

kinder, Friday, 18 March 2022 13:01 (two months ago) link

I don't usually get to post in this thread because my elder one is past the cute stage and into teen surliness, and the younger one is pretty nonverbal.

Anyway Sam was watching the 1991 animated "Beauty and the Beast." He paused it and pointed to the bookseller, then to me, and said "Same!"

I tried to figure out what he meant - we both have grey hair? Vaguely bearded? We both wear glasses and like books?

Sam thought for a moment and said, "Dad is nerd?"

Sigh. Yes. Dad is nerd.

takin' care of bismuth (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 18:56 (one month ago) link

ahaha sorry man

kinder, Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:00 (one month ago) link


peace, man, Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:17 (one month ago) link

Love it.

DJI, Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:17 (one month ago) link

Opal's really into drawing and she starting to learn how to write (a bit) and read (a very little bit) so she's always asking us how to spell words. Tonight as she was lying in bed and I was looking for a book for her to read, she said "daddy, how do you spell pazook". I had to ask her 5 times what word she was trying to ask about and kept saying "that's not a real word" and finally "can you use it in a sentence" and she said, you know, when you're surprised and you say oh my, pazooks! So I said, do you mean "gadzooks"? and she said yeah. It was just cute, and I have no idea where she got it in her head to say "gadzooks". She ended up making a 2pg comic strip on two stickies. One had a guy's face and a talk bubble that said "boo!" (officially the first word she ever learned to spell/write) and the other page had another guy, seemingly shocked, saying "gadzooks!"

dan selzer, Saturday, 26 March 2022 05:01 (one month ago) link

that is really cute and clever and darling

estela, Saturday, 26 March 2022 21:56 (one month ago) link

My 7yo went on and on praising Lee Harvey Oswald's marksmanship-- "He was a very good shot. You can't take that away from him."

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 28 March 2022 15:02 (one month ago) link

That is exactly the right response! 🤣

DJI, Monday, 28 March 2022 15:05 (one month ago) link

a future @dril on our hands

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 28 March 2022 16:37 (one month ago) link


Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Monday, 28 March 2022 22:15 (one month ago) link

Opal has never heard a Weird Al song but it's come up once or twice, where I've explained how he sang "eat it" or whatever. I guess it's one of those things that stuck with her because this morning we were talking about Ain't No Stopping Us Now, which is what her school plays as all the kids come out for pick-up (which is insanely cute), and I referred to it as the pick-up song and said "I thought you said hiccup song" and I said no and she said "that's what Weird Al would sing, he'd call it the hiccup song".

Just kinda cracked me up that she'd think about that. I guess I should probably play her some Weird Al. But I guess I have to play her the original songs too.

dan selzer, Monday, 4 April 2022 16:11 (one month ago) link

Aw man, that's so cute.

peace, man, Monday, 4 April 2022 16:20 (one month ago) link

My youngest is 11. He's at the age where he's more or less self-sufficient and has developed a sense of modesty. However, I occasionally give him a hand with washing his hair because it starts to smell like wet dog. Last night, as I was rubbing shampoo into his scalp, he said, "You don't have to be so damn aggressive."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 4 April 2022 16:24 (one month ago) link

oh man, the "wet dog" smell – can totally relate.

ass time permits (morrisp), Monday, 4 April 2022 19:18 (one month ago) link

This isn't really a "darndest thing"; but last week, I told my son he could open an Incognito tab in Chrome, for a coding project he was working on (something about being able to have two accounts open at once, without being logged in on one of them). I told him, straight up – "Please don't use Incognito mode without asking us; we need to know what you're doing online." (I figure if he knows about Incognito mode, may as well be straight about it and have to rely on trust.)

Later, he asked, "Why would someone use Incognito mode, anyway?" I was like, "Uh... for example, if you share a computer with someone and you're shopping for a gift, and don't want them to see." He said, "But that's the only reason, right?" I told him sometimes ppl just don't want cookies on their computer, etc.

ass time permits (morrisp), Monday, 4 April 2022 19:27 (one month ago) link

To cheat at Wordle

kinder, Monday, 4 April 2022 19:33 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

At preschool pickup this week, a classmate of our daughter walked by, and our daughter said:

“Well, she’s living her best life!”

Hops: Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe (morrisp), Saturday, 30 April 2022 22:06 (two weeks ago) link

(she sometimes picks up phrases like that without quite knowing what they mean)

Hops: Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe (morrisp), Saturday, 30 April 2022 22:06 (two weeks ago) link

We were driving into bright sunshine this morning and the eldest one said "Ah. The sun. My beloathed."

may the florist be with you (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 03:12 (one week ago) link


mark s, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 08:45 (one week ago) link

That's amazing.

peace, man, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 12:23 (one week ago) link

Local news was on the TV, due to fires nearby (we don't normally have the news on). My kid:

"Why is he standing in front of a fire, and talking to the camera?"
– It's the news, he's reporting from the scene.
"Isn't that breaking the fourth wall?"

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Thursday, 12 May 2022 22:12 (six days ago) link

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