Go see the doctor... (rolling medical thread)

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Rather than paraphrase, here is what my wife posted on our CaringBridge site:

I know that many of you have been wondering about Owen's MRI yesterday, and I am happy to report (just got the results) that Owen is clear! There were absolutely no signs of tumor or cortical malformations (big sigh of relief). Interestingly, there were several very tiny spots of 'injury' that they often see in twins due to the in utero environment. Nothing like a tiny kick to the head while your brain is forming...and quite remarkable that we don't see any of these on Ben's scans. They are apparently nothing to worry about, thankfully.

Owen has been telling everyone about how he went to 'hospital' yesterday, and seems to be quite proud of his experience. Thank you all for sending Owen your kind wishes for a clean bill of brain health!

schwantz, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

went to 'hospital'

o noes your son is a secret britishes!!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Yay! That is the BEST news!

tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah... I thought I wasn't very nervous about it until we actually got the all-clear, at which point I realized how scared I had been. I can't say that I don't know how I would have dealt with bad news (since at this point, I think we've answered that question), but it would have really hit hard.

schwantz, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh gosh, that's superSUPER great news. YAY!

Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link


Gorgeous Preppy (G00blar), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Great news :)

Meg (Meg Busset), Friday, 23 January 2009 11:12 (fifteen years ago) link

okay, what are americans thoughts on flu shots? ive always suspected that everyone who gets one gets sick as a dog (with the flu). last visit to out pediatrician he suggested a flu shot for beeps and felt bad refusing on a hunch so she got it and now we are both SICK SICK SICK and have been for a a month. when did beats get the shot? A MONTH A AGO.


tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:15 (fifteen years ago) link

v v happy to hear about a clean bill of brain health! :D

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I've never heard of giving flu shots to kids, why do they do that?

Meg (Meg Busset), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Usually children are given the shot if they are going to be exposed to other children/people/germs at day care or school. If the children are staying at home, I don't think the flu shot is necessary.

Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Children need germs though, it's good for them! (Apart from yr Hib/Men/Polio/MMR, obviously)

I just can't fathom why a healthy child should need a flu jab. But then apparently in other countries they routinely give pregnant women the jab, too.

Meg (Meg Busset), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it was because shes in day care. isnt the whole point of vaccinations to give you the germs in a controlled dose/situation (GBX??). were getting back to measles argument territory here.

anyway, ive always thought flu shots were bullshit and i cant believe i caved on it. blah.

tacos, fettucini, linguini, martini, bikini. (sunny successor), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

my kids have had flu shots and have had no problems. they are in childcare. our pediatrician recommended it and we totally trust him. the last time i got a flu shot a few years ago i ended up getting it anyway so now i don't bother for myself.

velko, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

this is sort of not appropriate to the thread but it's about a BABY. friend of mine, her son in law was going up to his 3 yo son to wake him up. he was hearing "weird" sounds in the baby room. he went in to discover their baby SUFFOCATING in his own vomit. he was already blue in the face and had red teary eyes cause of trying to eject the vomit. he immediately turned over the baby who THANK GOD survived the ordeal. :-(((((((( they immediately bought a babyphone. (which i found a little strange: they didn't have one????)

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i nearly cried. :-( same goes for bastard who killed two babies and a caretaker this week. he stabbed'em. i just can't imagine how you go through life with such heartache: losing your baby . :-(((((((((((((

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Ben had his 6-month post-surgery MRI, and all is clear!!! There is now a less-than-3% chance that he will have any new tumor growth. We have been winding down his seizure meds, and it seems to be having a very positive effect on him. He is pronouncing words more clearly, and seems more focused during conversations. He's still a little 2 and a half year-old nutcase, but he seems more present than he did on the meds, which is wonderful.

He also knows how to spell a ton of words - a skill which Owen doesn't have, and which is pretty unusual for a two-year-old. Pretty cute, and we can't help but wonder if the spelling and the tumor/surgery are related.

schwantz, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 04:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Hi schwantz having seen so many wonderful photos of your boys I never realised Ben was doing it so rough, poor wee man. Glad to hear hes doing well.

Kiwi, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 08:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Great news! Both about the MRI and the prodigious spelling!

Archel, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, that is great! Im so happy for you guys.

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Thursday, 26 March 2009 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Hurrah! We love those boys in our house, y'know.

(I reckon the surgery has tapped into his latent superpowers).

Michael Jones, Thursday, 26 March 2009 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Hurrah! I can't imagine the worry you have gone through. Your boys remind me of Ophelia's best friend in school. Just as cute. :-)

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Thursday, 26 March 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm the doctor is concerned with Veronica's lack of words. She's 15 months and doesn't really use any, although she babbles constantly (da da da, doodle!, puh-teh puh-teh, etc.) She says we should "narrate" more but I honestly I feel like we do that constantly. I'm a little weirded out.

c'mon someone offer me some words of encouragement here

This House is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, of course the advice everyone gets is "you must talk to the baby"! But, like you say, what if you're doing that?

This is an interesting article...
...it mentions "no words at 16 months" as a possible reason for concern but I think you are getting some words - "doodle" is a word. Is "put-eh" something in particular? Is the doc a pediatrician or a general practitioner? My experience has been that the latter tend to get "concerned" more than the former who have pretty much seen it all before! But I think you're doing the right thing anyway, seeing someone about it, because, apart from anything else, it might help not be so weirded out.

Basically (from my limited knowledge of mine and other peoples kids)the one thing you can say for sure is that it varies one hell of a lot between kids, even within the same family.

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Ava babbled for England before a recognisable word ever appeared - inflected chatter that had all the feel of language but without any meaning (to us). I think she was well past 15 months, maybe 18 months, before we got "puppy" and a few other point-and-name items. Around 20 months, it was like a switch just flipped and suddenly everything was in English. Lulu was quieter - less babbling - and the words came "late" too.

What Ned said, basically.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

thx I'm just in personally uncharted territory here, I appreciate the perspective

This House is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

i remember telling beeps doc at her 15 months check up that all she could say was uh-oh and dada which was the same thing i told him at 9 months. he gave me an 'OH!' and asked me to bring her back in 18 months because it could be a problem. At around 17 months words were pouring out. Shes 25 months now and still finding new things to say but its been more like 10+ new words a day instead of a week or so. i remember it being really slow at first and then it just comes. i wouldnt worry too much if i were you.

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

oh also i remember picking her up from daycare one day and noticing the other kids in her class (who are all at least a month older than her) were able to pretty much repeat everything the teacher who was reading to them said when she pointed stuff out in pictures. this seemed so far advanced from where beeps was but within a month she was doing the same thing. the point: a month can make a huge difference

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Surprised that at 15 months the doctor would be worried. Alice is monitored quite closely for speech and language development because of her cleft palate, but even then her first appointment wasn't until 18 months and they didn't seem to expect much in the way of words by that stage. More important iirc were things like variation in inflection and exploring different sounds, and seeming socialised to speech generally.

At her nursery I have seen vast differences between kids of the same age but it seems to level out soon enough. I think sometimes kids who go to nursery/daycare might pick up speech quicker, but that's not necessarily important in the long run.

Alice is apparently pretty advanced in terms of vocabulary and speech now (at two and a quarter), but I don't think we did anything different to anyone else: LOADS of reading to her, commentary on EVERYTHING etc etc.

Archel, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 09:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sure that Howie didn't have any words apart from 'Dadadadadad' at 15 months. Even at Christmas (22 months) he was only really starting to say a few words. Three months later he is suddenly coming out with whole sentences -- although only at home, he clams up at nursery or anywhere else. I really wouldn't worry about it.

Meg (Meg Busset), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

thx guys

Irving Forbush (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

15 mo? wtf. i wonder if they demand your kid to count at 18 mo. dont worry. elisabeth is almost 17 mo and just took her first steps alone. words? a few but not really clear. as long as she shows signs of communicatind and babbling, it'll be alright. (hah says i, the eternal worrier!)

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Thursday, 2 April 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Or not.
General health checks in adults for reducing morbidity and mortality from disease: Cochrane systematic review and meta-analysis

We did not find beneficial effects of general health checks on morbidity, hospitalisation, disability, worry, additional physician visits, or absence from work, but not all trials reported on these outcomes. One trial found that health checks led to a 20% increase in the total number of new diagnoses per participant over six years compared with the control group and an increased number of people with self reported chronic conditions, and one trial found an increased prevalence of hypertension and hypercholesterolaemia. Two out of four trials found an increased use of antihypertensives. Two out of four trials found small beneficial effects on self reported health, which could be due to bias.

Sanpaku, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Oops, thought this was on ILE.

Sanpaku, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

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