ILP remote schooling / remote working thread for general venting and yelling FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

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longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 14:59 (one week ago) link

I am logging my work time this week. Since Sunday at 9am, I have done 52 hours, and it’s not not noon Wednesday

rb (soda), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:14 (one week ago) link


Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:15 (one week ago) link

ugh, they've changed some of our working processes and now three different departments are in charge of something that used to be controlled by one person. It's confusing, and now that I've raised it, I've been looped-into a round-robin email with all the senior managers in the bloody country, making me look like I don't know what I'm doing.

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:17 (one week ago) link

My kids have "flex Wednesday" today -- for my kindergartner this apparently means "do as you feel day" because the teacher literally planned nothing for it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:30 (one week ago) link

They're on a "hybrid" system that (as of next week) is supposed to be two days in person, two days remote, and this mysterious "flex" day in between.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:31 (one week ago) link

Right now they're all remote but have the "flex" day anyway. Highly unclear why they should be getting 20% less instruction in this already shitty situation.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:31 (one week ago) link

man alive, I promise you the teacher didn’t plan nothing because they just forgot. this workload is untenable, the support is minimal, and the demands from some families are bonkers. last night I held five separate ~ 30 minute meetings with families that hadn’t bothered to read the consolidate intro/essential info packet the school sent out, and literally screenshared with them and read it/explanained it page-by-page. one of them had the gall to tell me “somebody should have let me know this, it’s irresponsible not to give it out,” as they thumbed through their own paper copy.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:41 (one week ago) link

I want to cut every family ten thousand miles of slack, but a fair number of guardians just aren’t trying to meet teachers halfway.

How do I know that?

They actually tell me, when I ask point blank. Conspiratorially, dismissively “oh, I can’t be bothered to read school emails.” I also talk to the parents who do read the emails (often ELLs) who are verifying that communication steams, while not perfect, are at least sufficient.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:44 (one week ago) link

I blame the school for an untenable plan more than I blame the teacher. That said, my other daughters teacher planned things. So did my wife, who is a teacher.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:19 (one week ago) link

also, fwiw, the communications in my district are very confusing. In addition to keeping track of multiple daily emails from each teacher, the principal, the superintendent, and the BOE, some of these emails will contain several links, one of which will have some important form we absolutely have to fill out (but wouldn't necessarily notice without paying very close attention). I often only become aware of these things through a parent facebook group.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:22 (one week ago) link

My condolences to you teachers and parents in this thread. Speaking as an outsider who once worked as a high school para and substitute, this sounds basically impossible to me — awful for teachers, awful for parents, at least at the lower grade levels.

But I'm curious about how goals get set differently, and what teachers feel like they can actually accomplish. I have a hard time imagining what the larger picture looks like. Do you know of any thorough, thoughtful accounts of what distanced learning during the pandemic looks like — a long article or documentary, say? I ask partly because I've thought about returning to secondary education in some capacity, but for obvious reasons this doesn't seem like a great time.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:34 (one week ago) link

It hasn't been 100% terrible for my 3rd grader, who is kind of a natural student and really likes structure. However between internet problems on our end and tech issues on the school's end, she has already missed a lot of time. And she too has this "flex day" which is sort of a hodge podge of independent work and ???

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:39 (one week ago) link

soda otm

brimstead, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:59 (one week ago) link

we have a kindergartener and a 5th grader doing fully remote school. i had assumed the 5th grader would be the difficult one; they spent all last year griping about school and when the last quarter was virtual they didn't do a lot of the work and we had to scramble to catch up at the end of the year. instead, they've been really good about school so far this year, which i think is mostly to the school system realizing they need to ease up on schoolwork and especially homework while the kids are remote. meanwhile, the kindergartener requires constant help and supervision, is constantly crying or whining bc they don't get complete attention from the teacher, and has to be forced to go to the classes and complete the work. they don't like drawing (our older kid is very artistic which i think makes the younger one insecure about their drawing skills) and all the assignments involve drawing things bc most of the kids don't know how to write yet. i'm not really worried about their grades, bc come on it's kindergarten, but i want them to get into having a positive mindset about school. it's mostly frustrating that they don't get to socialize with the other kids at all; i wish they would set up an open room during "recess" where the kids can just talk with each other.

na (NA), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:52 (one week ago) link

Since last Saturday night...

82.25 hours of work
157 distinct emails
4 new web pages
5 Powerpoints
3 print-at-home graphic organizers
2 family newsletters
1x 17 page literature packet created and sent home for kids who prefer to read on paper to the computer screen
11 handmade hyperlink enriched schedules for confused families
5 Google classroom setups
19+ hours of Zoom teaching
7 individual parent phone calls
2 parent surveys
4 new lessons
3 complaints from parents fielded by my district, because “I’m not responsive”
Constant gastric issues and headache
$158 on monitor cuz my district can’t provide one
$60 on a new whiteboard for my office
$35 new toner for home printer
Bleeding spot on my arm from where it rubs on the edge of the edge of my desk
2 visits to urgent care for related conditions (swollen bad painful lymph nodes)

rb (soda), Friday, 18 September 2020 17:01 (six days ago) link

NA - that's somewhat similar to my experience with my kindergartner and third grader. My older one took to remote schooling like a fish to water -- she doesn't want to miss a moment of it and is very intense about being a good student and getting her work done. She also very much wants to do it in her room, with the door closed, and no one else present (I guess to feel like she is "in school."). My kindergartner is very half-in/half-out about the whole thing, needs a lot of help, complains a lot about it, blows it off (I know it's funny to think of a five year old "blowing something off" but that's really her attitude about it) etc.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 September 2020 17:46 (six days ago) link

The good news, though, is that my district just decided to switch to a 5-day full-day model for K and a five-day half-day model for other elementary grades.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 September 2020 17:47 (six days ago) link

I just want to say that both of my kids' schools are running quite smoothly and I recognize this is because of a huge amount of hard prep work and current work by their teachers and administrators and we appreciate it.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 September 2020 17:59 (six days ago) link

soda, that sounds absolutely awful and frankly unsustainable. Gotta believe it also makes it impossible to take time to get administration to help with streamlining things. I hope somehow this becomes more doable, without the damage to your health. Good luck.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 19 September 2020 03:39 (five days ago) link

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