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Eight days to go till they hack my wife open and drag my baby screaming and kicking into the new world!

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

Are you going to any antenatal classes yet, Archel? They usually arrange a tour of the mateernity unit for you as part of that, so you'll see what the facilities are like.

I had what was known as "shared care", which consisted of seeing my own GP and the community midwife for the routine ante natal appointments, and then I gave birth at the local NHS hospital attended by one of the community midwives I had already got to know (which was nice - it felt better to have someone with whom I had some kind of rapport already, rather than a complete stranger).

I gave birth to Rhian on a beanbag on the floor, like I was some sort of whelping labrador, to the sound of They Might Be Giants' "Particle Man" blaring out on the CD player, while I giggled uncontrollably from having had far too much gas an air. It was great :)

C J (C J), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

Duh, pregnancy brain. OPHELIA is big and bonny, Olivia is purely imaginary :)

I am seeing the midwife next Friday and will get info about classes and hospital visit then I think. I like the idea of a beanbag!

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

adding good wishes for cyrus and family!

I don't remember packing anything useful in my hospital bag except the clothes I wore home.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

My OBGYN hates ante-natal classes as, according to him, they give the wrong breathing exercises! I wasn't aware of this so I felt extremely guilty when the midwife asked if I had learned how to puff (through a delivery naturally). I hadn't. She taught me in half a minute. Ten minutes later Ophelia (or Olivia if you like heh) was born. A bit too quickly, I nearled demanded a refund but then I realized I was the performer and I had disappointed my audience (read: husband). Just kidding, it was great.

No epidural? Oh,... hahahahah... HAHAHAHA I was as naive as you when I was pregnant. After ten hours I'd have KILLED for drugs. I was a junkie without crack. But hey I know it can be done.

Teeny, how's everything? Cured of that cold I do hope!

Ophelia is sitting but in a wobbly fashion. I was SLIGHTLY worried but then I met a mother who's baby doesn't even have good head control at seven months (granted, it was ten weeks premature). I realized that I should not worry if some things go slower.

I was trying to find when Louis was standing up. Yes, I like to follow your son's progress (and every other ILXor baby). :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Nearled? Nearly. *sigh*

Oh yes, tooth seven and eight are coming through.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. You people, and your children, are so awesome.

Emma started JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL yesterday OMG WTF. I dropped her off for 6th grade orientation day and we did this whole awkward wave thing that kind of broke my heart, I wanted to hug her but, y'know, NOT IN FRONT OF ALL THE OTHER KIDS DUH so I forebore. She is funny and sarcastic and wise, and taller than her mother at not-quite-eleven years old.

Sammy got a pretty good scar from falling onto our coffee table last year, it got kinda sunburned this summer, we might have to do a little more about that. He is now in 3rd grade and obsessed with:
*Gene Kelly movies, musicals in general, and Broadway
*Judaism (his own, and others)
*Genghis Khan, Egypt, Rome, other ancient figures and civilizations
*"Project Runway" and "Lost"
*Italian football team, esp. Gennaro Gattuso (we just bought him a jersey on eBay for his birthday)
*North Carolina, still, but also now Seattle for some reason
*writing soap operas and serial dramas about guys with strange names defeating Hitler
*talking trash during our fantasy football draft

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

My only bit of advice to expectant mums is to suggest that if you are liable to need a haircut, get it done the week or so before your due date because it'll be almost impossible to sort it out for the first few weeks after the baby arrives.

And (at the risk of making everyone saw "eww") the only important thing you need to pack to take to the hospital is a plentiful supply of Always Ultra Night-Time Super-Duper Absorbancy type pads because you'll need them for several days afterwards and they don't seem to have any available in the hospital to just give you.

Do you still get loads of freebies for the baby? I got a huge box load of free nappies, creams, wipes etc while I was in hospital - a marketing ploy from pampers to target new mothers I guess. Still, it was very useful.

C J (C J), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

Ah yes, the freebies. I got a whole load. Pampers and whatnot. I don't use that brand anymore. We discovered the cheap ones are actually much better funnily enough.

The pads are a good idea but at our hospital they had tons. I really needed'em as bled like a pig. :-( I lost so much blood they had to give me two bags of blood.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Plenty of pads at hospitals in US (well, Minnesota anyway), and yes, definitely they get used. Personally I am still amused at the notion of the weird postpartum undergarments they offer here, which seem to be make of some kind of flexible netting. I swear they could stretch to fit anyone.

My son started 3rd grade today and my daughter begins preschool this morning. I can't quite believe it...

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

Let's be cool, Barry, that was just a bit of Father's Day humor.

My Little Ruud Book (Ken L), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

yeah they sent me home with a pack of the jumbo pads. Didn't really get any free samples though, I think the hospital frowns on marketing unless you say I'm formula feeding gimme gimme gimme samples. I cut my own hair after Louis was born, and continue to do so. (have gotten some compliments on it too!) I am DONE with paying someone to cut my hair, I never like it anyway.

Louis is way advanced on the gross motor skills front, I'm sure he'll make up for it by waiting until seven or eight to read. He sat up around 5.5 mos, started crawling and pulling up a week or so after he turned six months. If I leaned him against something, he could hold himself standing up around four months, but he couldn't get up by himself at that point. I certainly wouldn't worry about Ophelia although I know exactly how you feel!

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah and teeth, Louis still only has the bottom two but I see SIX more just below the gums and I fear this will be an upsetting week!

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

My mum has just given me all the notebooks that she and my dad kept during labour and the first years of my and my sister's lives - it's amazing reading! I was a slow developer physically (no surprise there) but fast verbally, my sister was fast with both.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

2nd trip to the ER this week -- none of us hurt. I was walking along yjr side of the road when a car hit me (my hand) and sent the stroller flying into the air. It was the double stroller, luckily only occupied by Cyrus who was on the right side. Stroller flew up in the air, landing on Cyrus, luckily on soft grass, luckily he was belted in. There happened to be an EMT and ambulance right there who witnessed it all. They took us to the hospital. Cyrus unscathed; my hand slightly bruised. Old lady driver beside herself. Stroller mangled. Me all shook up (still not recovered from the lip stitches on Sunday).

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 8 September 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

yjr? should be 'the'

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 8 September 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

Eight days to go till they hack my wife open and drag my baby screaming and kicking into the new world!

Hurrah! Fuck one long labour, get hacked right in there!

Maria, that sounds scary - glad you got through relatively unscathed. Thankfully it *was* an old lady driver, rather than a carefree young guy in a fast car...

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 8 September 2006 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

ian looking angelic:
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and looking like bob hoskins (according to adam):

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ten weeks old tomorrow, still eating CONSTANTLY although the nights have gotten slightly better over the past few days; we ditched the bassinet entirely and he's in the bed. we all sleep better this way (not having to get up).

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 September 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)

Maria, I swear my heart just stood still when I read that - what a shocking thing to happen. I'm glad you and Cyrus are okay.

C J (C J), Friday, 8 September 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

Kyle, trust me, it gets better every passing week. I think around 12 weeks Ophelia let me sleep four hrs straight? I can't remember. I do know at four months she only woke up once in the night. I know because that's when I put her into a seperate room. A few days after that she slept the whole night through.

BTW WHAT A CUTIE!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 8 September 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, forgot to react to Maria's post. Chills ran over my whole body. I'm so happy it all ended so well. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 8 September 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

jeezus I missed maria's post too, holy shit.

anyway I challenge you all to a baby cute-off!

http://static.flickr.com/81/241787024_145bde823c_m.jpg

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

OMG SO STUDIOUS

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

So cute!

Cyrus had to have shots today and was understandably distraught. Otherwise, he's just fine. I keep driving past the spot and imagining other worse alternate realities. Every time I drive by, I'm reassured that I wasn't doing anything risky by walking there. I called the lady who hit us and she promises to send $ for a new stroller.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Maria!! I didn't see this before - you poor thing, and poor Cyrus! Did they not ticket the lady? Because they damn well should have. Is your hand okay??

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Cute-off? You're on!

Edith wants me to pick her up:

http://static.flickr.com/80/239112981_e71873a86d.jpg

Edith is reading Fantastic Mr Fox:

http://static.flickr.com/82/239180325_f23539a874.jpg

Edith is at the fun fair:

http://static.flickr.com/85/239555044_30b8ebe40b.jpg

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

It is a great day for Edith to be reading Fantastic Mr Fox because today would have been Roald Dahl's 90th birthday!

C J (C J), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

(Edith is adorable, by the way)

C J (C J), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/88/225917521_8cd31a8eb4_m.jpg

Cute, moi, I'm not really sure, I'll have to ask my manager.
...
He just rang me back saying all the ilxor babies are cute. There's no point in competing.
...
Ah well.

Maria, I still get shivers when I reread it.

A cousin of our salesperson's husband just had a baby. Apparently it's blind in one eye, the other is closed, the legs are misaligned (or something) and the poor thing also has a hole in the heart. Yesterday the poor baby had to undergo an operation for the heart and the eye (that's shut). Apparently the iris in the blind eye doesn't react to light or something which is very painful for the baby. I nearly cry everything I hear her talk about this. :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 07:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, let's all thank our lucky stars...

Asleep in Greenwich record shop:

http://static.flickr.com/86/239433106_05cf2c122c_m.jpg

Surround sound:

http://static.flickr.com/66/226569536_0dce441ea6_m.jpg

Ordering more hats over the internet:

http://static.flickr.com/87/236756128_77fddfd4b3_m.jpg

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

Did she fell asleep during Brian Eno's Another Green World? ;-)

I notice a pacifier. Sadly Ophelia discovered her thumb (or rather both of'em) and refuses a pacifier (and a bottle/sippy cup that has gum (?)).

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

Arrgh arrgh, dying from the cute.

Although I feel very bad because the first thing I look at in pictures is now the pushchair. Still have not purchased... but I think we are getting a Maclaren Ryder.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

We have the hipster Bugaboo. Not because every movie/singing star seems to have it, but because a friend of ours recommended it. It's great!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

I reckon we kickstarted the (local) craze for the Quinny - we used to get stopped in the street and asked about it and now everyone seems to have one. The Bugaboo is great but a bit expensive for us.

From November it'll be the Mutsy (as long as we can find a cheap duo seat).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

I also love the Quinny! Is the Bugaboo that expensive compared to others? We never really gave it a thought, my husband was adamant that we needed that one.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps it's just a particular model of Bugaboo - the Frog is about £500 here! The Quinny Zapp is only £120 or so (same price as the McLaren Ryder, but the Quinny needs a Maxi Cosi car seat - or similar - to be usable from birth). Actually, for the first few weeks we used a massive pram that we bought off eBay for about £20. Dismantling that and dragging it up three flights of stairs in two separate trips got old pretty quickly.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, we have steps up from our basement flat and will need to use public transport, which successfully put us off going for any kind of big pram/travel system. We don't have a car so the in-laws are just going to buy separate car seats for their cars. Hoping that the Ryder IS genuinely ok from birth (Maclaren say so but it doesn't go 100% flat so...) but anyway we also have our Baby Bjorn carrier which I expect to be using quite a lot.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

The first time I went to the supermarket with tiny Ava in the Baby Bjorn, I felt flippin' great! I think there'll be a lot of Quinny/Bjorn combinations this winter before we get the Mutsy sorted out.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

why doesn't my daughter have teeth yet, anyway?

She's way ahead of her brothers in everything else. They got teeth at eight months. She's nearly ten months with none in sight.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

She's way ahead of her brothers in everything else.

There's your answer.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

xpost even at 12months is ok! don't worry. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the question was rhetorical. I'd just like to move up to better table food.

it's funny. I can remember everything about our first child and basically nothing about the second. that's the punishment from having Irish twins I guess.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Our "big" Gracco is good, Archel, but quite heavy for steps. We chose it because some random customers in Mothercare told us it was good. Perhaps they were part of the Gracco street team.

Mrs Sister Disco is very keen on a Quinny. We are on our second "small" pushchair, and neither have been very satisfactory. One is now in Spain.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Graco seem to be the most reasonably priced of the posh travel system etc brands, no? Maclarens always seem quite pricy for what they are but Matt fell in love with the Ryder after pushing it round Toys R Us and nipping in between precarious displays/toddlers with the greatest of ease. And I like it because it's chocolate coloured and will go lovely with the lambs fleece mum is giving me :)

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

oh man there's a load of cuteness!

finger food is so much fun!
http://static.flickr.com/80/241786719_79074ace83_m.jpg

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Shall I be the first one to wish the Onimos good luck for tomorrow then?

Good luck with the whole "OMG a baby totally didn't come out of my vagina" thing :-)

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Aye, hurrah for slicing yer wife in half! Best of luck.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah! Will be thinking of you two tomorrow (although not in TOO much detail iykwim).

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to send him encouraging text msgs ("OMG they're totally chopping your wife up WTF" etc) except he won't be able to read them since you aren't allowed phones in hospitals :-(

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Um, even if you were I doubt I'd be like "hang on a second dear, I have a txt msg - can someone else hold this hand?"

Thanks for good wishes etc, I'll pass them on to Mrs O and I'll let you know how everything goes.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)


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