ILX Parenting 5: I'm a big kid now

he's too young to grasp consequences tho! I mean he's only 2

Oh then just use violence.

JK!!!!

lol I did somewhat seriously suggest just locking his door but the wife wasn't having it

Could a baby gate across his door work? That's what my parents did when I went through the same phase

we had a babygate in the upstairs hallway but as he had figured out how to open it we took it down a couple weeks ago

he doesn't talk much but he is very mechanically minded

brutal outic, J (2.5) would sometimes call out and ask for water like 5 times before falling asleep and that was super annoying but it was nothing like what you've got going on

10pm is soooo late too, this is like your only time to feel like a human during the day sometimes, those couple hours after the kids go to bed are so crucial for me

exactly! I can't deal with these little fuckers from dawn to dusk, I need *some* downtime!

lol when I stared co-parenting a 7-year-old back in the early 90's I remember telling my mom "now I understand why you always made us go to bed early"

throw him in the pokey

brutal outic, J (2.5) would sometimes call out and ask for water like 5 times before falling asleep and that was super annoying but it was nothing like what you've got going on

^^^

Ella went from going straight to sleep to suddenly making a series of endless last-minute demands (I need water! Where's my rabbit! I dropped my (several extra spare) dummies! Read me a book!"

After about 2 months of this, I desperately told her, 'And please don't call out tonight!' when putting her to bed. She said, with weary indulgence, "Of course I won't!", and all was peace and quiet that night, and every night since (it has lasted 4 weeks now). This is obviously too preposterously easy to last, and of no use to anybody else, obviously, but I'm still in shock that it worked.

We just bought a little backpack leash for Ivy.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91zYV5XoUxL._SX522_.jpg

We're leash parents!

So cute!

I'm all for the leash, better a leash than a squashed child or stressed out parent. I've saved many a grazed knee with one too.

We have one too, in storage for when The Time Comes. I'm fine with the concept, but definitely prefer the (Brit?) term 'reins' to 'leash'.

They are actually sold as "leashes" in the U.S. Reigns are definitely better.

And yeah, we live on a crazy busy street and I'm not fucking around with it. Only God can judge me, people of Chicago!

I like "reins". Add some jingle bells to it and an antler hood.

Reins not reigns. Right!

Ivy just had her 18 month checkup. She's all caught up to her birth age. Good job, kid!

idg anti-leash/reins?? it's not like you're putting a collar round your kid's neck! it seems like a great safety option to me (my mum used one when i was little).

Leashes are for dogs
Only negligent/lazy parents need them

I think those are the two primary objections.

I love that there's a little backpack. It's about time this child carried some of her own crap.

Not literally.

She literally carries her own crap around with her already.

I mean the optics of putting your kid on a leash are not great but whatever. I end up carrying my kids everywhere and having a constantly sore back.

Not a big leash fan. I don't see it as a negligent/lazy thing, but more of an anxious parent thing. OTOH (say it with me people) whatever fucking works...

i don't use a leash but i haven't needed to, J is pretty good about holding hands when crossing the street or in a parking lot, and we live in a pretty residential neighborhood so there isn't a ton of danger

i feel like a leash would give your kid a little bit more freedom. plus you could clip it to your own belt/bag and have two free hands! as for the optics: like i said, it's not as if you're putting a collar round their neck.

i had a habbit of wandering off in stores and getting lost, which is why my mother got one.

I used to love swinging from my reins. Annoyed the crap out of mum, mind.

I really just want one to tie her up outside while I go into Starbucks.

mum had a full on harness for me
i was a ~wanderer~

Aidan didn't like hand holding but hated the reins even more so it was more of a deterrent. Second child made things ten times worse as you have two to herd, she was a bolter and could run surprisingly fast, and I'd find myself in situations where I could only look after one or the other fully, so the little life turtle backpack came back out. As I said it had the benefit of saving many a grazed knee. Could do with it again, really, she's costing me a fortune in tights/leggings, the number of wears she gets out of them before holes start appearing is depressingly low. Dreading summer with bare knees (though it will be cheaper not having to replace clothing!)

ok so.. night terrors is a thing, huh

my son's are mild compared to stories i've heard but trying to imagine what's running through his mind when he's in their grip is just fucking awful :(

I hate thinking about that :(

Owen saw this trailer and was pretty freaked out. No night terrors yet, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Sec-SdvoI

night terrors aren't connected to specific waking fears afaict

no, one of ours was able to report after an episode that there had been a COW in the room. afaik this was not connected with a bovine phobia

evil guide cow

i've kind of been having a hard time lately

not even "kind of," shit has been hard. i know when it is a three-day weekend and i am eager to get back to work and away from the house that things are getting hard. i was sick last week, on my birthday, on this beautiful memorial day weekend with sublime weather, and we had to cancel plans to host our best friends and their two kids who we haven't seen in over a year. then my 2-year-old gets sick and is just this sweaty cranky ball of drool and free-flowing mucus who wakes up all night. also i was holding our 2-month on our front steps and i get up and lose my balance and lose my grip on the baby and tumble into the shrubs and the baby now has this 4-inch long deep scratch on on his forehead. my wife is reading about autism nonstop and we tried to have sex for the first time since the baby was born and she just starts bawling from all the stress about planning school and services for our toddler, and of course she is now worried about the risk for our 2-month old too. the days are hot and so long and i just can't wait to go to sleep at the end of the day but of course "sleep" means "wake up every 1-2 hours because at least one child is crying and needs help"

also being sick and tired and exhausted has brought up all my own shit re: anxiety & depression which usually goes away this time of the year -- feb/march is usually the dregs and may is almost manic happiness but not this year, somehow the nice weather makes it worse because i feel like i'm not present for it you know?

yikes that's rough

we had our own issues but they were against the backdrop of a mini college reunion at a resort in New Hampshire which lessened a lot of the sting

marcos that's so hard. How's your support system?

thank you guys

carl the support system is there i just need to draw from it, something that has been an ongoing learning process for me for a long time, sometimes i am pretty good about reaching out for support and other times i struggle. it is part of the reason i was so looking forward to hanging out with our good friends who also have little kids, it will be so nice to get the kids in bed and just enjoy a beer or a bourbon with them and talk about how it is so draining to be a young parent sometimes.

having two little ones is soooooo hard. & sex can bring out weirdness because it's what got you into this trouble in the first case (maybe that's better with adoptions etc?)

oof sorry to hear that marcos.

parenting is about endurance

yea it totally is. i think i forgot too how hard the first few months of a baby's life are wrt sleep. it took J almost 15 months before he was sleeping through the night, hopefully F won't take that long but in any case i am eager for regular sleep. consistent sleep deprivation fucks with you

Both twins have another respiratory thing (YAY *sob*) which is making them super irritable and unable to sleep; the only way we can calm them down is through touching them, and even then there's a lot of thrashing and kicking. The only saving grace is that we haven't had to hospitalize them again, although I think we would actually get more sleep if we did.

Sorry marcos. Having two kids is hard.