ILX Parenting 5: I'm a big kid now

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ha

I actually remember being on the kid end of a lot of these conversations!

"If national debt is such a problem, why doesn't the whole world just start over?"

I'm still not convinced that isn't a viable solution (don't disabuse me of this notion, or at least don't expect me to actually read a post about it zzzzzzz).

I remember asking my parents why we had to be scared of the Russians if they were just people like we are or why Communism was so bad anyway. Also still valid questions, IMO.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link

And asking my mom what eternity was, and to clarify that going to heaven really meant eternal life, and like lying awake for days thinking of how awful and boring living forever in heaven would be.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

Anyway, I'm super looking forward to this with Ivy, too. I'm going to give her better answers to the Communism question than I got, that's for sure! ("Because Communists believe everybody else has to be Communists and they won't rest until everybody thinks like they do, even if they have to nuke us!")

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link

thinking of how awful and boring living forever in heaven would be

haha this is totally how I've framed the Xtian conception of heaven when talking to Veronica, a "place where nothing ever happens"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link

why we had to be scared of the Russians if they were just people like we are or why Communism was so bad anyway

I haven't gotten to communism yet (although it's only a matter of time given the number of books I have about Marx, Stalin, etc. lying around) Nazis have been a little easier to explain eg "they thought they were better than everybody else, and whenever anyone thinks that they use it as an excuse to do terrible things to people who are not like them"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link

wait until you get questions about the nature of time, those are the best

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link

haha yes that is happening (thx Neil DeGrasse Tyson)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link

yeah, Nazis seem like they would be easier to explain since the entire ideology is pretty evil. Whereas communism is a pretty great idea that has been poorly implemented in the name of murderous madmen. Kind of like capitalism! (Except I think capitalism is a terrible idea. SORRY MOM I guess your early political indoctrination failed.)

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

SORRY MOM <there's your capitalisation right there

kinder, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link

hahaha

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link

I remember asking my Dad about the Russians and him telling me about Lenin and me thinking it was spelled Lennon.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link

Another mindboggler (other people I know have had this too) seems to be when little kids look at parental wedding photos from years earlier than their birth, and demand to know why they weren't invited

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:55 (nine years ago) link

i must have asked mum 100 times what communism was & she always gave me some long weird answer about farms

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 May 2015 02:06 (nine years ago) link

omg so we are going through this thing now with Judah where he just WILL NOT GO TO BED. Initially when we switched from the crib to a toddler bed there was no big problem, bedtime routine stayed the same, he might put up some initial resistance and cry for one of us or whatever but he would generally stay in his room and (eventually) stay in bed and go to sleep. But for some reason now in the last few weeks he's figured out that after we "put him to bed" (ie, put his pajamas on, read him a story, tuck him in etc.) he can just get out of bed and do whatfuckingever, which to-date has primarily been wandering out of his room and then going to bother his sister in her room or coming downstairs and bothering us or just running around upstairs or opting to lie down halfway up the stairs and this goes on for HOURS. Like every five minutes I have to get up, take him back to his room, tuck him in and then rinse and repeat two or three dozen times. Is driving me insane. Veronica somehow developed the good sense at this age to just stay in her room and bang on the door if she wanted us.

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 May 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

that's always hard this time of year, as it stays light later and later

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 15 May 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

yeah I'm sure that's part of it. super-frustrating to have it last from 7:30 to 10pm though

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 May 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link

I mean

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFEexjXUUAEqOhU.jpg

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 May 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link

go to fucking bed already!

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 May 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link

Oh man.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 15 May 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link

My approach is:

1. Find something they love (usually videogames)
2. Threaten to take it away (and actually take it away if you have to)

schwantz, Friday, 15 May 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

he's too young to grasp consequences tho! I mean he's only 2

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 May 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

Oh then just use violence.

JK!!!!

schwantz, Friday, 15 May 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link

lol I did somewhat seriously suggest just locking his door but the wife wasn't having it

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 May 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link

Could a baby gate across his door work? That's what my parents did when I went through the same phase

stet, Friday, 15 May 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link

we had a babygate in the upstairs hallway but as he had figured out how to open it we took it down a couple weeks ago

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 May 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

he doesn't talk much but he is very mechanically minded

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 May 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

brutal outic, J (2.5) would sometimes call out and ask for water like 5 times before falling asleep and that was super annoying but it was nothing like what you've got going on

marcos, Friday, 15 May 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link

10pm is soooo late too, this is like your only time to feel like a human during the day sometimes, those couple hours after the kids go to bed are so crucial for me

marcos, Friday, 15 May 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link

exactly! I can't deal with these little fuckers from dawn to dusk, I need *some* downtime!

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 May 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link

lol when I stared co-parenting a 7-year-old back in the early 90's I remember telling my mom "now I understand why you always made us go to bed early"

sleeve, Friday, 15 May 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link

throw him in the pokey

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 May 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link

brutal outic, J (2.5) would sometimes call out and ask for water like 5 times before falling asleep and that was super annoying but it was nothing like what you've got going on

^^^

Ella went from going straight to sleep to suddenly making a series of endless last-minute demands (I need water! Where's my rabbit! I dropped my (several extra spare) dummies! Read me a book!"

After about 2 months of this, I desperately told her, 'And please don't call out tonight!' when putting her to bed. She said, with weary indulgence, "Of course I won't!", and all was peace and quiet that night, and every night since (it has lasted 4 weeks now). This is obviously too preposterously easy to last, and of no use to anybody else, obviously, but I'm still in shock that it worked.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 03:40 (nine years ago) link

We just bought a little backpack leash for Ivy.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91zYV5XoUxL._SX522_.jpg

We're leash parents!

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 04:50 (nine years ago) link

So cute!

Madchen, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 05:31 (nine years ago) link

I'm all for the leash, better a leash than a squashed child or stressed out parent. I've saved many a grazed knee with one too.

vickyp, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 07:42 (nine years ago) link

We have one too, in storage for when The Time Comes. I'm fine with the concept, but definitely prefer the (Brit?) term 'reins' to 'leash'.

Madchen, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 10:41 (nine years ago) link

They are actually sold as "leashes" in the U.S. Reigns are definitely better.

And yeah, we live on a crazy busy street and I'm not fucking around with it. Only God can judge me, people of Chicago!

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 11:45 (nine years ago) link

I like "reins". Add some jingle bells to it and an antler hood.

how's life, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 12:45 (nine years ago) link

Reins not reigns. Right!

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:10 (nine years ago) link

Ivy just had her 18 month checkup. She's all caught up to her birth age. Good job, kid!

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link

idg anti-leash/reins?? it's not like you're putting a collar round your kid's neck! it seems like a great safety option to me (my mum used one when i was little).

just1n3, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link

Leashes are for dogs
Only negligent/lazy parents need them

I think those are the two primary objections.

I love that there's a little backpack. It's about time this child carried some of her own crap.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Not literally.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link

She literally carries her own crap around with her already.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link

I mean the optics of putting your kid on a leash are not great but whatever. I end up carrying my kids everywhere and having a constantly sore back.

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

Not a big leash fan. I don't see it as a negligent/lazy thing, but more of an anxious parent thing. OTOH (say it with me people) whatever fucking works...

schwantz, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

i don't use a leash but i haven't needed to, J is pretty good about holding hands when crossing the street or in a parking lot, and we live in a pretty residential neighborhood so there isn't a ton of danger

marcos, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

i feel like a leash would give your kid a little bit more freedom. plus you could clip it to your own belt/bag and have two free hands! as for the optics: like i said, it's not as if you're putting a collar round their neck.

i had a habbit of wandering off in stores and getting lost, which is why my mother got one.

just1n3, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

I used to love swinging from my reins. Annoyed the crap out of mum, mind.

Madchen, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

I really just want one to tie her up outside while I go into Starbucks.

Jeff, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link


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