ILX Parenting 5: I'm a big kid now

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we now have a tentatively walking child. goodbye safety, hopes, dreams, lack of worry

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Monday, 20 October 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

I'm worried about this Halloween too. The last two Halloweens, my little girl dressed up in a ladybug costume. About two months ago, she told me that she wanted to be a vampire and that she wanted me to dress up in a ladybug costume. I was cool with this idea, and checked in every once in a while to make sure she was still on board for that. "Hey Abby, what do you want to be for halloween?" And she came back with this idea every time. Seemed like she was committed. Then last week, mommy came up with the idea that I should be a unicorn. And Abby has glommed onto the idea with glee. But I'm sitting here like "What about our plans? Our plans!"

She still wants to be a vampire, but I'm really concerned about a last minute reversal.

The big kid is going as Freddy Krueger and we've already bought him a fedora and a sweater, so there's no backing out of that.

how's life, Monday, 20 October 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

I would just like to say that parenting an 11 month old while both parents have food poisoning is very difficult.

Jeff, Monday, 20 October 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link

Awww Life....

*tera, Monday, 20 October 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link

Jeff, yikes! Hope you can all hang in there.

*tera, Monday, 20 October 2014 23:00 (nine years ago) link

My wife and I once got a bad stomach flu at the same time around when K was that age, and we actually called an ambulance because we were so lightheaded and weak that we felt like we couldn't take care of her. Was a bad flu but probably would have toughed it out in the pre-baby days. Speedy recovery, hang in there.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link

My wife is a genius. Baby hates cold crib and will only sleep in your bed? Throw a heating pad on low in there ten minutes before bedtime for a toasty sheet and the kiddo(s) will think they're still sleeping with you.

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link

ding!

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

Ooh good tip! I have a friend who could use that idea. Ours likes a cool cot - we *think* the trick to sleeping through is to maintain a room temperature of 18-19C. It certainly worked again last night, but that's only the 10th time in his life.

Madchen, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 07:07 (nine years ago) link

FYI you can make a pretty decent emergency bib from half a plastic bag plus a muslin. Ahem.

Madchen, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 11:32 (nine years ago) link

The cycle of illness since Friday before last has gone:

1. Ivy got pink eye.
2. I got pink eye and a rotten cold.
3. I got ear infections.
4. Jeff got food poisoning or whatever the fuck it was.
5. I got food poisoning (I'm still taking meds for the pink eye and ear infections).
6. Ivy has pink eye again.

I want my mom. :(

carl agatha, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:10 (nine years ago) link

Last Presidents' Day weekend we were all laid low with a case of norovirus. The toddler got it first, from about Friday through Sunday. Late Sunday night my wife and I both woke up with it, claiming separate bathrooms as our own territory. We were absolutely useless on Monday. I went to bed on the couch at like 10 o'clock on Monday morning and woke up late in the afternoon, with the sunlight shining in on a completely different part of the room. Basically, our ten year old was left to look after the now-recovered toddler and respond to me and my wife's feeble requests for water/more toilet paper/etc. He essentially sequestered himself in his bedroom and would only come out with a tshirt wrapped around his face. Poor guy didn't get it until that Thursday.

how's life, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:19 (nine years ago) link

I would just like to say that parenting an 11 month old while both parents have food poisoning is very difficult.

― Jeff, Monday, October 20, 2014 5:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Carl and Jeff, I know 11 months is def harder than 2 years but PP and I feel you SO much on this. We both got food poisoning (McDonalds LOL) when Beatrice was 2 and I was 5-6 months pregnant with Henry. Not pretty.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

My wife is a genius. Baby hates cold crib and will only sleep in your bed? Throw a heating pad on low in there ten minutes before bedtime for a toasty sheet and the kiddo(s) will think they're still sleeping with you.

― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Monday, October 20, 2014 9:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is def genius

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link

I don't know if 11 months would be harder than two years.

In my most Pinterest mothering moment to date, I made a bag out of leftover crib skirt fabric (I know right?) and filled it with rice. Four minutes in the microwave and it will warm the crib up while we get Ivy ready for bed. I still think that was pretty clever but now I'm like oh duh right heating pad.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Don't worry, when the apocalypse comes and there's no electricity you can still wrap your rice baby in a damp towel and set it on a wood stove or next to some hot coals and it will still work.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

Whereas Dan's heating pad will just melt.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

The cycle of illness since Friday before last has gone:

1. Ivy got pink eye.
2. I got pink eye and a rotten cold.
3. I got ear infections.
4. Jeff got food poisoning or whatever the fuck it was.
5. I got food poisoning (I'm still taking meds for the pink eye and ear infections).
6. Ivy has pink eye again.

I want my mom. :(

― carl agatha, Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:10 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

7. Ivy's original pink eye never resolved, and she was diagnosed with pink eye, ear infections, and sinusitis that she's "had for a long time." (Oh my god the guilt..._
8. Jeff was diagnosed with a middle and an outer ear infection yesterday.

I'm thinking we need to pull a Velveteen Rabbit and burn everything and move, possibly to a new planet.

carl agatha, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link

Daycare called me to tell me that K is "not herself," although not running a fever or throwing up or anything, so can I pick her up? I thought that was kind of weird, like am I supposed to pick her up whenever she has a bad day? Anyway my MIL can pick her up, luckily.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

My girl has had a very minor cold for about a week. Like, sneezes maybe once every couple hours. Blows her nose about the same. Only problem is that in the middle of the night her post-nasal drip gets real bad and she starts coughing and gags on it and pukes. Nothing we can go to the doctor for and any over-the-counter stuff that we feel comfortable giving her doesn't have much of an effect. We layered towels over her pillows and sheets so if she does puke, it doesn't mean a midnight laundry crisis for us. Again.

how's life, Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

How about sleeping sitting up?

carl agatha, Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

We prop her up. She rolls down to a more comfortable position while we're sleeping though.

how's life, Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

Yeah. That sucks. I'm actually having the same problem, minus the barfing, myself these days. It's gross. Poor kid.

carl agatha, Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

BTW, K actually turned out to be sick, the daycare lady is on point. She also called us later that evening to see how she was doing.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 October 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link

Aw. Is she okay?

carl agatha, Friday, 24 October 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

4 days of antibiotics and 6 days of fever later, yes

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link

Oof.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link

Blimey. Are you OK?

Madchen, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 02:57 (nine years ago) link

I have erected an elaborate cage through my living room made out of various dog kennel barriers to keep my sanity while michael explores the exciting world of "electrical cords and things that can murder him"

It looks like I am either raising chickens or keeping prisoners in here.

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link

Blimey. Are you OK?

― Madchen, Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:57 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm on kind of a sleep-deprived buzz the last day or two

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link

have erected an elaborate cage through my living room made out of various dog kennel barriers to keep my sanity while michael explores the exciting world of "electrical cords and things that can murder him"

Sometimes I like to think about who probably has/had to say "don't touch that" more often -- parent living in the rainforest or parent in modern apartment

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/41/e3/89/41e3897f537d054a43d527473905b0a2.jpg

Bottom half of this is very much otm

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 06:37 (nine years ago) link

it's all otm imo!

marcos, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link

Really happy to be out of that phase. Will this child survive if I leave her in the room watching Fresh Beat Band for 3 minutes so I can take the trash out?

how's life, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link

I let K watch sesame street alone for 10+ minutes at a time while I shower, shave and dress. Don't tell child protective services.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link

J has basically no screen time but we are wondering if showing him a video will allow us to cut his hair, it's super long everywhere (which is fine, he looks good with long hair!) but his bangs are covering up his eyes and he won't let us cut them.

marcos, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

Here's my advice: it's a slippery slope. It lets you do a lot of things, but it's a slippery slope. I was a no screen time parent once too, and now I'd say she averages 1-1.5 hrs per day.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link

hey y'all do any of you have links or info about the inadvisability of TV exposure for very young children (our grandchild is almost 3 months and is spending what might be considered as too much time in front of a big TV)? I feel like I've seen articles and such advising that TV be introduced later on.

never too early to tell the parents they're doing something wrong ;) but really, my wife just wants to send the mom a link or something.

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

The American Academy of Pediatrics advises no screen time under age 2. I'm sure if you google that you can find it, as well as a host of other reasons not to put your baby in front of a screen at all. Some of these I find questionable, but if you want support you can find it. My guess is that the AAP errs on the side of caution, knowing that it's a slippery slope as I mentioned above, even though probably 20-30 minutes a day of videos does no harm. Although we failed to make it to age 2 before the first vid, we still have pushed our own parents not to use the screen as a crutch, particularly my MIL who just doesn't understand saying "no" and thus sometimes lets her watch hours of videos. At least now K is in full-time preschool with lots of stimulation and zero screen.

I will also say that I have noticed a big difference based on the KIND of screen time -- for example, disney movies seem to result in extremely shitty moods and bad behavior, but sesame street does not. Also using ipad apps for too long gets her very worked up, but a baby einstein video on youtube tends to soothe her.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link

thx Hurting

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link

Generally I find stuff that is very even in tone and mood and free of quick cuts or exciting scenes is preferable. Toddlers can barely regulate their emotions as it is and can't really handle intense movies imo. Although I remember my little brother wanted to watch Dumbo every day at age 2 even though the mom in jail scared the crap out of him.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 14:42 (nine years ago) link

So Ivy started physical therapy yesterday. She army crawls and will stand holding on to something, but doesn't hands and knees crawl with any consistency and hasn't pulled herself into sitting or standing yet. The therapist said she has low muscle tone, so if our insurance will cover it, Ivy will have weekly sessions. She's also going to get some kind of neoprene/lycra support vest that the therapist said will help her crawl on her hands and knees.

The therapist will go to Ivy's daycare so it's convenient and I don't have to be there every time, and from what her teacher said yesterday, Ivy enjoys it so I'm pretty psyched about it. It's kind of astounding to think that she will be standing on her own and maybe even walking in a few months.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

I'm largely indifferent to the amount of screen time. We don't have the TV on a lot anyway, any free time we have before her bed time is spent doing chores/stuff around the house. Even when the TV is on, she doesn't seem that captivated by it and barely watches anything. Maybe she just hates House Hunters.

Jeff, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link

How old is Ivy again? As noted above, K has/had pretty similar issues and also got physical therapy.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link

xps A co-author of the AAP statement tries to present a balanced view: http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1840251

There's also the question of actual learning from media (though the 'babysitting' side is totally valid and reasonable in moderation too!) If you Google 'vide0 deficit childr3n' you'll get summaries of a lot of research showing that young children find it difficult to learn from video. Here's the abstract of a paper on trying to get kids to learn more from video by introducing dialogic features, either via the parents or an on-screen actress: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23544859 - this person's work is all about trying to make e-books, apps and video more supportive of learning. And here's a paper on whether babies learn from specially targeted baby media: http://www.centenary.edu/attachments/psychology/journal/archive/feb2011journalclub.pdf

ljubljana, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link

xps: oh man, my son just started a Love It or List It phase this weekend.

how's life, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link

11 months. She'll be ONE YEAR OLD on November 18!

How did K do with the PT? xp

carl agatha, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link

fwiw one of the things that changed my mind was that K actually DID seem to learn things from the videos she watched, so that made me think she was "ready" for it. Like she was constantly picking up words, shapes, colors, etc. She repeats stuff from Sesame Street all the time, and we talk about what happened in the episodes.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:13 (nine years ago) link

CA: the physical therapy was free through the city so we've stuck with it. Honestly I really don't like the physical therapist and neither does K afaict. She seems like a bitter woman. But she has given us some exercises to do with K that seem to help, and it's also just a good weekly reminder that we need to do a little extra with K, like take the stairs instead of the elevator as much as possible, games involving pushing and pulling, tell her to fix her legs when she sits, etc. I mean, K is progressing physically, I don't know if it's the therapy or not. She didn't walk until 18 months, was delayed in jumping, climbing, p much everything physical. Still falls a lot more than other kids. But she seems to LIKE running around and jumping and climbing now, and that makes me happy. I feel like as long as she finds it enjoyable rather than painful or embarrassing, she will keep trying to do it and keep progressing nicely. A couple weeks ago I saw her hang from a bar for the first time, which was really cool, and she looked so proud of herself too.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link


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