ILX Parenting 5: I'm a big kid now

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More poop talk:

I've read on Baby Center and similar message boards that breast fed baby poop smells like buttered popcorn, which had not been my experience until Ivy started in with the ONE HUGE POOP pattern, and now it smells like buttered popcorn, and damn that is fucking unnerving.

carl agatha, Thursday, 24 April 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link

I would still prefer it to nutty death, and whatever horrors await after the start of solid foods, but it's probably going to alter my movie snacking habits for the foreseeable future.

carl agatha, Thursday, 24 April 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link

Oh, speaking of balloons. I remember once when I was very little my mom bought me a frog-shaped helium balloon at the supermarket. We got in our car and started driving away when the balloon blew out of the open window and soared into the sky. I was so heartbroken and wanted my mom to turn into Wonder Woman and fly up into the air to get my balloon back for me.

glasses jacket jerfman (how's life), Thursday, 24 April 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link

Fox hasn't pooped for three days and his farts are evil. The kid can build suspense better than Hitchcock.

Madchen, Thursday, 24 April 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link

xp - re the balloons escaping from the car, apparently this just happened to my twin step-nephews, who just turned 3. They both burst into tears, but one (T) realized the other (W) was genuinely upset rather than just shocked. T, who is a fantasist of the first order, told W 'don't worry! I'll go in the air and get it with my sword and pull it down and---' but W, who is a little engineer type, just screamed 'T, THAT WON'T WOOOOOORK'.

(I lurk on this thread and adore it).

ljubljana, Thursday, 24 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link

The bad one is this bigger kid pushing me down for no apparent reason on the playground - remember feeling this existential confusion about the injustice of life even at that age.

did you have siblings? my kids bash each other mercilessly with zero provocation; i have to imagine that it's steeling them for the inevitable slings and arrows of the playground

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 April 2014 09:56 (ten years ago) link

o my god, Beeps went on this fluid rant last night about her little brother's poor playing skills on the Lego Batman video game. She established points to make, provided reasons and rationale to why this annoyed her, and used complete sentences with subjects and predicates.

It came out of nowhere, lasting about as long as it would take someone to push each key on a piano starting from left to right as well as sounding much like that music scale. She and sunny sat down later and talked about a few problems happening at school, so the frustration likely may have gotten spilled over from that.

But still. She got put into time-out for the first time in months the other day for "accidentally" hitting her brother again. She explained to me at the time in so many words that she doesn't really want to hit him, but subliminally (my words), she does it anyway. I told her to punch a pillow or go upstairs when she reaches that boiling point, and instead, she launches into this rat-a-tat-tat monologue.

Kids, man. They'll surprise you every day.

pplains, Friday, 25 April 2014 13:40 (ten years ago) link

ai ai ai, that's a bummer.

glasses jacket jerfman (how's life), Friday, 25 April 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link

xp No I was the oldest which I guess explains my reaction.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 25 April 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link

So my parents are visiting and it is mostly great because I love them and they love Ivy but woooooooo they are still racist tea party nut jobs at heart, even though they try really hard to keep that shit under wraps around me to preserve harmony. After three days of hearing my mother refer to the act of farting as "shooting Indians" I suggested she substitute "shooting rabbits" instead. To which my mom responded by picking up Ivy and saying, "Is your mom raising you to be a PC baby?"

Picture me going into the bathroom and shutting the door and slowly counting backwards from 100.

I explained that Ivy goes to daycare and will go to school with kids from a lot of different backgrounds and that it would be dreadful if she used the phrase "shooting Indians" and hurt a small child's feelings. Right? RIGHT MOM?? YOU DON'T WANT TO HURT A BABY'S FEELINGS, RIGHT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. I just got a noncommittal "Hrmmm" but she did stop saying it at least.

Also somebody give me a god damn trophy for RAPIDLY changing the subject this morning at breakfast when both my parents started talking about how nobody understands the concept of personal responsibility these days.

carl agatha, Friday, 25 April 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link

oh man, the worst problem we had with my folks was my mom spilling a bottle of formula on our couch cushion

well apparently she also told my wife that she needed to learn how to change a diaper faster, which was really stupid, but having watched my wife change diapers I can understand why someone would think that this is something that you could get away with saying (even tho you can't)

chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Friday, 25 April 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link

My relationship with my parents is already complicated because I love them dearly and I have so little family as it is, but god DAMN they espouse fucking odious ideology and now I get that extra awesome dimension of feeling my heart swell with joy when they interact with my daughter because while also wanting to puke because they use a genocidal metaphor for baby farts.

I think the rule of thumb for mothers-in-law is that unless asked for advice or constructive criticism, to keep that to yourself.

carl agatha, Friday, 25 April 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

when they interact with my daughter because while also wanting to puke

carl agatha, Friday, 25 April 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

it was kind of fun counteracting every arch "oh you're doing THAT" comment my mother made with "yes, because that's what the doctors told us to do *pulls up AAP report on phone*"

I'm sure there was a point where, as a research librarian, she started feeling that I'd been trained too well

chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link

We have our share of annoying mother-in-law things because she watches K two days a week. The main problem, I've realized, is that the MIL just doesn't like saying no to anything K asks for, so if K asks for stuff she thinks is bad, she gives it to K but then blames us for giving it to K in the first place. It's kind of fucked. Like I'll pick up K and she'll say "she's been watching way too many videos all day -- she's addicted to it," implying that's our fault for ever showing her videos in the first place instead of her fault for showing K a video every time she asks for one.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link

Haha my parents have straight up put Ivy in her bouncy seat pointed directly at the TV more than once to calm her down while I've been working or showering or at the dentist. On the one hand, don't do that please but on the other, at least we don't have cable so they aren't subjecting her to Fox News.

carl agatha, Friday, 25 April 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link

"K just eats snacks all day!" Hmm, that's funny, she doesn't do that with us.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 25 April 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link

I just explained baby-led weaning to my mum. She was clearly very careful indeed not to express an opinion.

Madchen, Friday, 25 April 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link

it was kind of fun counteracting every arch "oh you're doing THAT" comment my mother made with "yes, because that's what the doctors told us to do *pulls up AAP report on phone*"

Yeah, my mum just glides past authority and science. "I don't care that the WHO and the NHS recommend breast-feeding for at least six months, this old woman I met raised TEN CHILDREN and she also says he should be on solids already."

My mum has been an emotional tasmanian devil since Fox was born, tbh.

stet, Friday, 25 April 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link

The "that's how we did it" parenting bias is very strong and will probably affect us when we are grandparents. The truth is that you can find humans all over the world who believe in breastfeeding anywhere from 0 months to 4 years and a very tiny percentage of any of their kids turn out to be psychopaths or become unable to function in the world as adults. But it will always "seem like just too long" to somebody who did it for less time or "seem like not long enough" for someone who did it longer.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

It reminds me (sorry for bringing this up) of those studies about how most people believe "too much masturbation" is unhealthy, but the respondent's definition of "too much" range anywhere from "more than once a month" to "more than once a week" to "more than once a day."

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

There's "that's how we did it" and there's the rider "SO YOU HAVE TO DO IT THE SAME". I hope even if I have the first I don't have the second. xp

stet, Friday, 25 April 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link

More than once an hour? (xp)

Madchen, Friday, 25 April 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link

Teething at 12 weeks, oh my Christ. Our non-crying baby has started, and it's heartbreaking :(

Madchen, Saturday, 26 April 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link

Aww those memory things were so neat! I guess my earliest are from about 3 since they're from when I was in pre-school but even those are so strange that I question their authenticity. My memory now is really pretty great but memories from about 3-8 are sorta patchy.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:20 (ten years ago) link

As a follow-up to my story about the car, my little girl asked me to buy her a balloon at the grocery store this weekend! I swear she can pick up on things like that. Anyway, they come with little clips now that help keep them from flying away. Still, it was incredibly breezy this weekend so I drove home with the windows rolled up and carried it in the house with her. Anyone else have kids who are psychic?

how's life, Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

Some major cowinkydinking there!

When August was a real baby-baby I had these terrible dreams of forgetting her in the truck or leaving her on a store counter then full on nightmare of trying to find her and having lost her...I'd always wake up to her smiling in her sleep. Happened four or five times. A friend, who is into all things esoteric, said that was because August had escaped my dream world into one of her own and was being mischievous in doing so. I thought it was a fun way to think of it all.

*tera, Monday, 5 May 2014 06:21 (ten years ago) link

I think it had more to do with nursing her in my sleep.

*tera, Monday, 5 May 2014 06:23 (ten years ago) link

Dear god, alternating night fussiness because neither of them can reliably hold onto a pacifier is a Horrible Thing

chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 13:46 (ten years ago) link

We lined Henry's crib with pacifiers like they were landmines in the DMZ. Don't know if they can hold with their hands yet, but maybe they can roll over with their mouths open or something.

pplains, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 13:50 (ten years ago) link

They can pull pacifiers out of their mouths and fling them at their feet. They can also spit pacifiers out and then roll their necks directly on top of them for maximum discomfort.

chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 13:59 (ten years ago) link

Ivy was the same way. She'd push the pacifier out of her mouth and then wail because she'd push the pacifier out of her mouth. Do you have bassinets or cosleepers or something you can move up next to your bed? Then you can dangle your arm into their bed and you barely have to wake up to stick the pacifier back in.

We had a pack and play at the foot of the bed (the only place it would fit) and Jeff spent a fair amount of time sleeping with his head by my feet so he could do this.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link

We have these rocking Fisher Price bassinets that we moved into our bedroom last night. I plan to move them back out tonight and go back to sleeping on the couch in the living room with them because OOF

chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 14:05 (ten years ago) link

Hi.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

!!!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link

Due in November.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 18:09 (ten years ago) link

I've been sleeping partial nights in K's room pretty often. We came to the conclusion that it was best to just reduce her anxiety around sleep and separation right now rather than fight the sleep-training battle again. The hard fast rule is that she doesn't come out of her crib and there's no middle-of-the-night entertainment (toys, books, music etc.). Ferber says at this age it's better to do things that way, w/e.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

Oh and congrats SM!

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

And DJP, the pacifier was completely hopeless with K when she was that age -- every time she fell asleep, it would fall out of her mouth and then she'd wake up again.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

Congrats, SM! November is an excellent month in which to be born.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

congratulations!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

Amazing Scik, congratulations!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link

congrasts, sm!

marcos, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link

congrats, even.

marcos, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link

how do y'all handle sleep stuff when you have a sick child?

J has an ear infection, horrible screaming wake-ups, and generally not responsive to our normal patting/singing/comforting to get him back down. things got so bad a few nights ago that my wife broke down and nursed him - something that we kind of set a rule against earlier in 2014 after 15 months of frequent night-waking to nurse. he finally started sleeping through the night a few months ago so we're kind of terrified about fucking that up. at the same time though, with this ear infection, we just want to go back to sleep and nursing seems to do the trick.

marcos, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link

Congratulations dude

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link

abandon all sleep ye who enter here

Euler, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link

It's that whole thing about weighing up what's best for today against what's best for the years to come, isn't it? IMO, sick baby definitely means doing what's best for today - resolutions go out the window.

Madchen, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link

(Congrats, Smouthy)

Madchen, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link

ear infections = do whatever works. all bets are off.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link


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