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Ava now speaks in (what could be taken as) complete sentences...just not in English. She inflects and ask questions and chats to her toys but it's all in this lovely babble we don't understand.

She can also climb up things very easily...like the crate we use to protect the TV stand from her probing fingers. It's difficult to even leave the room for 30 seconds to boil a kettle now, she's so mischievous and hazard-seeking.

Here's Ava running around the Rachel Whiteread exhibit at the Tate Modern:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvsgyYrfqlI

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Aw! Did you dress her in black for deliberate arty contrast?

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I haven't posted here much because of various events but here's mine:

Emma (10 1/2) has suffered her first sports-related injury, a foot deal from soccer. She'll be going into junior high in the fall, a science magnet school with a good reputation and a small student-teacher ratio; she is currently reading White Fang and The Castle of Cant and The Teddy Bear Habit; she pretends to be angry and petulant but she is really quite sweet and lovely.

Sammy (8 this summer) is in love with being Jewish, he actually cheers for anything having to do with Judaism -- except for Israel, which isn't "tolerant" enough. (Brainwashed? We live in Madison, Wisconsin, so you make the call.) He thinks "Young Frankenstein" and "Big Trouble in Little China" are hilarious good fun, so that's two of my top three favorite films ever; I wonder if he'd like Tarkovsky's "Nostalghia"? He is also looking forward to attending Yale (grrrr, traitor!) and becoming a Broadway star.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 13:07 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/54/130994103_c8b919f513_m.jpg

Louis is 4 months and some, he weighed in at 18 lbs at the doc a couple of days ago. He's really strong, he can sit up by himself for a few minutes at a time. He loves standing on a lap, especially if he can see the mirror behind the couch. He's got an incredible smile.

I'm enjoying being a stay at home mom to a remarkable degree, I'm probably going to quit my part-time job or at least go on hiatus for a while.

also the wrong people got elected to the school board this month so I'm pre-emptively worrying about the school situation again.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah, school is an...interesting problem. i'm trying not to worry about it until we get there. (people are already asking us if we've thought about what nursery schools to apply to. gah, manhattan. that's exactly the kind of mindset we're trying to avoid.)

as for other things, it's funny to me to read the early posts on this thread, where kiddo wasn't even walking yet. he's fully mobile for a while now, which has made taking him to the playground a lot more fun for everyone. it's hilarious to just kind of tag along behind him and watch him play and start to interact with other kids. i basically try to just stay out of his way and keep him from getting hurt. there was a great moment last week where he was sitting in the sandbox, around a bunch of other kids, and was just playing with the sand and kind of looking out into space a little. it was cool to watch him think. and then he sort of snapped out of whatever reverie he was in and realized he hadn't done a spotcheck for a parent in a few minutes. brief flicker of uncertainty on his face, he stands up and does a quick scan of the scene -- and sees me sitting 4 feet away. then he got this big, reassured smile on his face, and sat back down to keep playing. it's a nice thing to know that just your mere presence is enough to keep a kid feeling secure.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Parents, please do not brag at the library about how your kid started reading at so many months and doing this and that at so many other months because I will hate you. Please also do not try to get your kid into the next level of story time. It really will not make that much of a difference in Junior's life if he goes to 3 year old storytime 2 months before his third birthday. He will be fine in 2 year old story time, I promise. And please do not tell me your child is advanced when is doens't even appear as if your child responds to stimuli. Thank you.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Rats! I BEEN FOUND OUT

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:14 (twenty years ago)

The kid is so far beyond you he refuses to respond, Mary.

Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Gormless Dad, but beautiful daughter:

http://static.flickr.com/52/127420130_bb7bd0a75a.jpg

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 April 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)

Edith doesn't read, but she does seem freaked out that the same charcters appear on successive pages, like, how did Elmer get from there to there?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 April 2006 06:23 (twenty years ago)

Better not introduce her to flick books then - she'll go mental! Nice dress btw.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 April 2006 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Sara is walking/running everywhere now, and has even started major tantrums against the many "don't touch this&that" that I'm forced to say to her (I really need to start moving dangerous stuff out of her reach). She was given a baby doll yesterday by my sister and she keeps slapping the little one around, but feeds her and dresses her as well. we're training her for the little brother/sister on the way...So she's great fun to be with, we spent a few days off together for Easter holidays and she was wild with joy all the time, running after dogs and people and pigeons, eating with us in bars and restaurants. it makes me so warm to think she's grown this much already and is so indipendent.

misshajim (strand), Thursday, 20 April 2006 07:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh, the tantrums when Ava's told that she's not allowed to put everything in her mouth. She growls like some kind of demon child.

Let's talk about...strollers! Specifically those accursed double-buggies, cos, er, we're going to need one later in the year. eBay seems the way to go (preying on those poor unfortunates who forget to make a reserve price) cos those Mutsi and Jane things are frighteningly expensive new. One in front, one behind is our preferred option; the double-width ones just seem designed to run peds off the pavement.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 20 April 2006 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I think you should build your own, Goodies-style.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 April 2006 08:18 (twenty years ago)

aw congrats michael! I find craigslist useful for that kind of thing too.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:49 (twenty years ago)

I am looking after Edith all on my own all day long on Saturday.

I am sure we will both have a lovely time.

Won't we?

I said, WON'T WE?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 21 April 2006 06:27 (twenty years ago)

Of course you will!
hope the weather is nice so you can take her out a lot, she gets very tired and is asleep by 8 pm... By the way, I was looking forward to something similar myself but was then forced to some saturday-meeting for work, so now I have to leave Sara at my mum's instead of spending the whole day together with her...umpf

misshajim (strand), Friday, 21 April 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)

Mary, do you like children?

I wonder what you would have thought of our 3-year-old at the library the other day. He was making nice chit-chat with the librarian, telling her what kind of books he likes and whatnot. Then we walked away from the desk and he turned back and loudly said, "Oh, I want to tell you one more thing!... If you ever have a wedgy, just pull your underpants out of your BUTT!" I was mortified. I laughed so hard I cried. The whole children's room was in stitches.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I love children. It's the parents who can get annoying. (I'm not talking about normal parents--I'm talking about over-achiever parents.)

Mary (Mary), Friday, 21 April 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah don't you hate when people think they're above other people.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 21 April 2006 22:59 (twenty years ago)

My daughter is now almost five months old. She still looks remarkably like her brothers. The dreaded teeth are starting to come. You get this little breather of sleeping where they finally go through the night and it lasts a couple of months and then either hunger (time to start solids) or teeth start to ruin it all.

We'll probably start testing solids (i.e. cereal) in the next week or so. Oh, the mess that is. Plus, it takes about five times as long to feed and you have to drag food stuff out of the house with you all the time...way more planning involved.

Teeny and Gypsy: the worry about school never ends. Ever. My three year old is starting to read and I had some private school snob come up to me and warn me that the public school would probably "give him a bad early reading experience." I wonder if that bitch rude woman heard me curse her under my breath as she walked off.

don weiner (don weiner), Saturday, 22 April 2006 00:02 (twenty years ago)

Don that woman sucks. We don't agree about some things, but I'm with you 1000% on that one.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 22 April 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)

Oliver is 18 months today. Saying lots of words like "flower" ("wower") and "diaper" ("wiper"). One cool thing is seeing how much he likes other kids. He goes up and kisses and hugs his friends (from daycare) and sees kids his size on the street and points and waves. Party animal. Pretty awesome. He's very into books, I can read the same book to him 5x and he wants another go. It's a cool age.

mcd (mcd), Saturday, 22 April 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Horse! One! *ring* Hello! Pig! Five! Three! Eight! *snap* One! One! One! One! One! One! Pig! Duck! Four! Four! Seven! Nine! Three! Two! Hello! Hello! Three! Five! Six! Two! *ring* Puppy! Four! Cat! Horse! Goodbye! Duck! Pig! Duck! Puppy! Horse! Nine! *snap* One! Four! Three! One! One! One! One! Three! Eight! Four! Five! Pig! Puppy! Cat! Duck! Duck! Duck! Puppy! *snap* Five! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Two! Six! One! Nine! Three! Six! Goodbye! One! Five! Six! Nine! Seven! Four! Two! Two! *snap* Puppy! *ring* Cat! Horse! Puppy!

Andy_K (Andy_K), Saturday, 22 April 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

La-la la la, la-la la la, Elmo's World! Thanks for calling! One! Two! Five! Seven! Thanks for calling! Three! Seven! Eight! Thanks for calling! La-la la la, la-la la la, Elmo's World! Thanks for calling! Thanks for calling! Thanks for calling! One! Two! Five! Seven!

Andy_K (Andy_K), Saturday, 22 April 2006 22:01 (twenty years ago)

One cool thing is seeing how much he likes other kids. He goes up and kisses and hugs his friends (from daycare) and sees kids his size on the street and points and waves.

This sounds wonderful. Still waiting for Ava (14 months) to learn the value of the gentle touch (starring Jill Gaiscogne) - she slaps and smacks and pokes and prods and we're wary of letting her interact with her neighbourhood contemporaries for this reason. We guide her hand in a soft stroking motion to persuade that there is another way to touch Daddy's face which doesn't involve drawing blood, which she finds hilarious, and eventually builds up the stroking to a frenzy of scratching. Original nuttah.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 22 April 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

yeah we've had to teach the difference between a gentle gumming and biting. still get the occasional nip. suddenly understand the term "knee-biter."

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 22 April 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)

We had a nice time on Saturday.

I taught Edith to say cock-a-oodle-doo.

It comes out as doodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oo.

I am not very keen on other parents. On the whole, they seem like a bunch of twats.

Present company excepted, of course.

But it does strike me as a problem, how to interact with others without feeling like an alien.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 09:23 (twenty years ago)

I was looking at someone with one of those two-tier buggies at the weekend (not so much horizontal as diagonally stacked) and feeling sorry for the child who drew the short straw and only had a view of its sibling's chair back. But then double width would seem to make entering buildings a nightmare proposition.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

It's harder to watch out for pedestrians' ankles when you're steering a one-in-front-of-the-other double buggy.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 09:37 (twenty years ago)

La-la la la, la-la la la, Elmo's World! Thanks for calling! One! Two! Five! Seven! Thanks for calling! Three! Seven! Eight! Thanks for calling! La-la la la, la-la la la, Elmo's World! Thanks for calling! Thanks for calling! Thanks for calling! One! Two! Five! Seven!

They're never too young for call centre work.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 09:39 (twenty years ago)

I thought ankle barging was standard practice for getting through a crowd.

xpost

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 09:43 (twenty years ago)

I've rather lost track of Pam's eBay research on the Mutsy double buggy - I can't quite remember what it looks like, whether there's an option for small baby to face parent while big baby looks out. I think there is. I think we've ordered it from Germany, with the help of Babelfish. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out we've bought a Volkswagen.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Either you're getting a car very cheap or you've paid way over the odds for a buggy then.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 11:12 (twenty years ago)

A lot of buggies look to me as big as cars these days anyway.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 11:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I have no idea of the sums involved either.

Here's Ava at 14 months, 8 days:

http://static.flickr.com/45/132975662_d6b85944fe.jpg

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 11:45 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/53/126857817_6b2227f2bf.jpg?v=0

Ophelia is now exactly 100 days old. I know this because we are celebrating this. It's a Japanese celebration. Strange? Maybe, but you gotta remember my parents live in Japan. :-) It'll be a blast. :-)

I feel so weird for recognizing that label on Ava, ie Quinny. Anyhow, Ava is so beautiful! Those eyes!!!!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Her crown's come off!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 12:08 (twenty years ago)

I might be babysitting a 9 yr old and an 11 yr tomorrow night. I think by the time I was 11 I looked after myself? Then, my parents rarely went out anyway. Boys. What should we do? They will be deposited at my house, so they will be torn asunder from their miriad playthings. I'm thinking pizza and movies? I got from the library: The Complete Astroboy; Lemony Snicket; and the original Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

uno?

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

MMxox OTM. Lemony Snicket is a crap movie, and CCF scares the bejeezus out of me. But Astroboy should be okay enough probably. If they are smart boys you can do stuff like other card games, MadLibs, or 40 Questions (just like 20 Questions but the answer could be "the fang of a vampire in Miami Florida" or something really hard); if they are more rah-rah active types then you might want to go with drawing graphic novels or designing cool-ass cars if Astroboy runs out.

My awww moment this week: watching Emma and Sammy work together on their project for their school's science inquiry fair. They didn't fight hardly at all, and Emma was very patient with her fact-laden but kinda-hyper lil bro, whereas Sam tried hard to stay on task and not just let his sister do all the work.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

Mary, put enough Bourbon in their Dr. Pepper and they'll sleep like babies.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Sarah-Jane (6): "Madonna's very old to be jumping on the backs of men".

ratty, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

How did I know that was SX's post before I saw the name? :)

UNO--OH NO. Must scrounge up. There were some baseball movies at the library but they were too sporty for me. Games, and arts, and crafts? Don't the kids like to vegetate anymore?

My mom says they are happy just drawing and making up their own games together.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/44/135567877_275743310b.jpg

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

(at the contemporary art museum st louis today)

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:46 (twenty years ago)

v. cool teeny.

mary, why don't you like Uno? I don't know how down an 11 yr old might be with drawing and making up games. My cynicsm tells me that playstation-attention-span already has a hold by that age.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:54 (twenty years ago)

That's fantastic! I must position my daughter under a coffee shop sign for "java" or something.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/51/134825274_69339f7aca.jpg

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 27 April 2006 06:46 (twenty years ago)

My goodness Edith looks like you A LOT! I never really noticed before. (She also looks like she's about to make a telling point in a parliamentary debate or something).

And oh my god Ava's eyes. They could be prescribed as therapy :)

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 27 April 2006 08:58 (twenty years ago)


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