Hello Mudduh Hello Fadduh: ILX Rolling Parenting Thread

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Yes, I know! She's at the 100 percentile for everything. Head, weight and length. The doctor (at the center) took out a paper with the curves and showed me how quickly she was growing. "Do you see that for the head circumference it's going much too fast?" Yes, I could see that. So I asked her what the possible reasons were. "Water in the head. And other things." Flippin'eck, I was not going to wait another two weeks. "I see you looking so worried. You really shouldn't be." WTF. The "Don't let it ruin your weekend." line just astounded me. O's pediatrician told me (again) that at the child care center they use doctors who aren't specialized in child medicine (?). He told me that it's just probably something that runs in the family. And it does: my husband, his father, I and also my father and gran all have big heads. He also told me that the doctor completely misinterpreted the curves: "You don't compare apples and oranges." So yeah, my weekend was restored thanks to him. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Serious question(s): Are there any parents here who need a lot of time alone/really enjoy being alone and/or are prone to depression who have kids and if so how, given your temperment how do you deal?

Mary (Mary), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I had some bouts of depression until I was about 25 (never medicated for it unless you count pot, just kind of cleared up as I got older) and was really afraid that pregnancy/postpartum might tip my brain back into that place but it's really been just fine, thank goodness.

Likewise I'm fairly socially awkward/enjoy being alone but am not as pathological about it as I used to be. Right now my baby doesn't seem to count as a person in that way, I really dig being alone with him. So maybe this will change as he starts to be his own person more. Having inlaws over more often (haha like once a month) is more of a pain than always being within boob's reach of a baby.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 20 March 2006 23:19 (twenty years ago)

i like having some alone time, but my work and waking hours provide for that. i'm up until anywhere from 2-4 every night, which gives me time to myself to watch movies, read, download music, you know all the good things in life.

in somewhat related news, this week marks the beginning of the great sleep crackdown. my wife (who, because of our schedules, is mostly responsible for bedtime) has finally been persuaded that little dude needs to learn to go to sleep on his own, in his crib, instead of falling asleep next to her in bed. so we've had the predictable bouts of furious crying (accompanied twice by vomiting, because he got himself so worked up), but he seems to be grudgingly accepting his fate.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 20 March 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

Mary - after each of my three babies I went through a bit of depression when they were between six and twelve months old. With the first one it was pretty bad and I ended up changing my whole life. It got gradually milder, and now with my third I'm starting to feel down a lot more, overwhelmed and basically dissatisfied with all the responsibility. I know it's just hormones and that it will end sometime, and it helps that my husband is very supportive even if he doesn't understand. Other than the baby blues, though, there are periods when I'm not necessarily depressed, but just... UGH! Being a parent is hard and it's easy to get frustrated and annoyed because you are no longer allowed a private life and going out for happy hour requires a week's worth of planning. So yeah, I like alone time, I usually only get it at night after the kids are asleep. I keep reminding myself that they are only kids once, and one day all the soccer games and swimming lessons will be over and I might just miss how much they needed me.

Rebekkah (burntbrat), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 00:55 (twenty years ago)

haha teeny it's funny how the Internets don't make people (well, you for sure) seem at all socially awkward.


we've had the predictable bouts of furious crying (accompanied twice by vomiting, because he got himself so worked up), but he seems to be grudgingly accepting his fate.

CLASSIC, CLASSIC, CLASSIC!

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 01:27 (twenty years ago)

Teeny, that's a classic :) Do you look back at Louis' early photos to remind yourself how much he's changed?

Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 25 March 2006 01:07 (twenty years ago)

awesome.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 25 March 2006 01:20 (twenty years ago)

practically every day, jaq!

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 25 March 2006 01:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh yay, Teeny, I was about to email you asking whatsupwiththelittledude. (I'm a constant worrier...) He's much cuter than Jennifer Beals and I'm sure he would do his own stunts and doesn't need a body double, right? RIGHT.

http://static.flickr.com/34/119334906_602ba4e17d.jpg?v=0

We... or rather the inlaws bought us TWO play parks. (One for the shop and the other for our home.) She loves it! We've been fairing much better. As she's extremely active and likes to spread her arms and legs, the pram was too confined for her. The hell with swaddling, she likes to have her space.:-)Anyway, yeah, the park gives her the chance to play and also sleep and it gives me the opportunity to work and not carry her all the time. ;-)

She only wakes up one time in the night now! YAY! Once at 12 AM and then another time at around 3. One time she even managed to remain asleep until 7!

Oh yeah, we went for an echo. She was so good. And the specialist confirmed that Ophelia is doing great. :-)))

Re depression/time alone: I was very much afraid of post-natal depression as I'm prone to depression but I've done quite well. I realize that being tired does make me a bit bluesy at times, but I've got the perfect medication: my husband and child. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Those baby gyms are great, I never would have thought to get one but we got one from the in-laws and the kid has quite enjoyed it. He seemed to be interested in batting at things very early on.

http://static.flickr.com/35/119350712_50ab158f22_m.jpg http://static.flickr.com/53/119350700_2ba8e0feeb_m.jpg

Right now he's totally into mirrors, we have big mirrors in our house that he loves and also a small baby-safe plastic mirror that's good for a variety of places. If I put him on his belly facing that mirror, it's totally good for a half hour of entertainment. He also loves standing on a lap, and if you're sitting on the couch with the mirror behind it so that he can stand AND look at himself in the mirror, it's total baby crack.

We're doing good sleeping too, he's getting used to the crib and has a really solid nighttime schedule. He doesn't seem to want too much sleep in the daytime but this still varies.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)

I think Ophelia is awake about eight hours per day. It used to be more but thanks to the park, she sleeps a little bit more.

The baby gym is great but she gets pissed off because she can't grab those play things (it's much higher up than the one in your pic, Teeny).

She loves the shop. I'm expecting that this is due to my family's genes: we're born shopkeepers.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Excellent video, Michael.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:56 (twenty years ago)

How about one of "Bangers and Mash"?

I'm only half joking.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:57 (twenty years ago)

Yes! I just showed it to my husband. I just hope O will be as rocking as yours! :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:59 (twenty years ago)

The compression on YouTube makes it very dark but the fact that you can't see the carpet/rug is a blessing.

Ava just bloodied my nose - I was hanging upside-down off the daybed, making her laugh and she rammed a finger up a nostril... Pam thought it was hilarious. I had to crawl off to the bathroom with two sheets of kitchen roll. Ava showed fleeting concern and then went back to slapping the hoosier*.

(* - in the cabinet sense, not the Indiana resident sense).

Ava seems to have got over her little lunch trouble (protein? No thanks - unless it's dipped in yoghurt), mostly by letting her start to feed herself. It's messy. She thankfully still seems to need her two naps a day (many of the neighbourhood kids who go to nursery are down to one now), which allows us to get a bit more done around the house.

We're now looking at a total rewire in the house (had an inspection on Monday and the results were not good) so we may have to stay in a hotel or something for a week around Easter. It'll be our first holiday with the gal! Even if it's only 400 yards away...

The explosive joy of Louis in Teeny's pic! Wow!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 08:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and here she is a week or so ago in front of a freshly-stripped wall. Is that brown stuff (that flakes off like plaster) actually age-old wallpaper adhesive residue? And are we going to have to scrape all that off as well before we can paint? (These are rhetorical questions, really).

http://static.flickr.com/46/114322358_ce7756e0a2.jpg

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 08:34 (twenty years ago)

We are trying to teach Edith to clobber me gently, but I bring out the Joe Bugner in her.

I think the brown stuff is ancient wallpaper from the days when people used to like living in parcels.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 10:16 (twenty years ago)

omg daylight saving!! how do you get your kid to adjust??

(I think I know the answer to this but I still want to hear it.)

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

i hadn't even thought about daylight savings. but it might be kind of a blessing for us, since our kid has suddenly in the last week taken to waking up an hour earlier in the morning.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:25 (twenty years ago)

Teeny, what happened?

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:52 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember it being a huge trial. A little fussiness at bedtime, but the kiddo was usually coaxed into accepting the new schedule after about 3-4 days.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 1 April 2006 01:05 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
UPDATES PLEASE

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Every year our high school does a big stage production, and this year was "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat." Kiddo has a fantastic singing voice but is not much of a dancer, but she tried out anyway and got a part as one of the zillion wives of Joseph's brothers. The show went really, really well, somebody here sent somebody in Memphis a DVD, and the long and short of it is that in mid-May, the AHS production of Joseph is going to perform at the Orpheum in Memphis. (The first time a high school production has played that venue.) The whole town is pretty puffed up with pride, but the parents of the cast especially.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Ava now speaks in (what could be taken as) complete sentences...just not in English. She inflects and ask questions and chats to her toys but it's all in this lovely babble we don't understand.

She can also climb up things very easily...like the crate we use to protect the TV stand from her probing fingers. It's difficult to even leave the room for 30 seconds to boil a kettle now, she's so mischievous and hazard-seeking.

Here's Ava running around the Rachel Whiteread exhibit at the Tate Modern:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvsgyYrfqlI

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Aw! Did you dress her in black for deliberate arty contrast?

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I haven't posted here much because of various events but here's mine:

Emma (10 1/2) has suffered her first sports-related injury, a foot deal from soccer. She'll be going into junior high in the fall, a science magnet school with a good reputation and a small student-teacher ratio; she is currently reading White Fang and The Castle of Cant and The Teddy Bear Habit; she pretends to be angry and petulant but she is really quite sweet and lovely.

Sammy (8 this summer) is in love with being Jewish, he actually cheers for anything having to do with Judaism -- except for Israel, which isn't "tolerant" enough. (Brainwashed? We live in Madison, Wisconsin, so you make the call.) He thinks "Young Frankenstein" and "Big Trouble in Little China" are hilarious good fun, so that's two of my top three favorite films ever; I wonder if he'd like Tarkovsky's "Nostalghia"? He is also looking forward to attending Yale (grrrr, traitor!) and becoming a Broadway star.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 13:07 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/54/130994103_c8b919f513_m.jpg

Louis is 4 months and some, he weighed in at 18 lbs at the doc a couple of days ago. He's really strong, he can sit up by himself for a few minutes at a time. He loves standing on a lap, especially if he can see the mirror behind the couch. He's got an incredible smile.

I'm enjoying being a stay at home mom to a remarkable degree, I'm probably going to quit my part-time job or at least go on hiatus for a while.

also the wrong people got elected to the school board this month so I'm pre-emptively worrying about the school situation again.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah, school is an...interesting problem. i'm trying not to worry about it until we get there. (people are already asking us if we've thought about what nursery schools to apply to. gah, manhattan. that's exactly the kind of mindset we're trying to avoid.)

as for other things, it's funny to me to read the early posts on this thread, where kiddo wasn't even walking yet. he's fully mobile for a while now, which has made taking him to the playground a lot more fun for everyone. it's hilarious to just kind of tag along behind him and watch him play and start to interact with other kids. i basically try to just stay out of his way and keep him from getting hurt. there was a great moment last week where he was sitting in the sandbox, around a bunch of other kids, and was just playing with the sand and kind of looking out into space a little. it was cool to watch him think. and then he sort of snapped out of whatever reverie he was in and realized he hadn't done a spotcheck for a parent in a few minutes. brief flicker of uncertainty on his face, he stands up and does a quick scan of the scene -- and sees me sitting 4 feet away. then he got this big, reassured smile on his face, and sat back down to keep playing. it's a nice thing to know that just your mere presence is enough to keep a kid feeling secure.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Parents, please do not brag at the library about how your kid started reading at so many months and doing this and that at so many other months because I will hate you. Please also do not try to get your kid into the next level of story time. It really will not make that much of a difference in Junior's life if he goes to 3 year old storytime 2 months before his third birthday. He will be fine in 2 year old story time, I promise. And please do not tell me your child is advanced when is doens't even appear as if your child responds to stimuli. Thank you.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Rats! I BEEN FOUND OUT

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:14 (twenty years ago)

The kid is so far beyond you he refuses to respond, Mary.

Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Gormless Dad, but beautiful daughter:

http://static.flickr.com/52/127420130_bb7bd0a75a.jpg

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 April 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)

Edith doesn't read, but she does seem freaked out that the same charcters appear on successive pages, like, how did Elmer get from there to there?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 April 2006 06:23 (twenty years ago)

Better not introduce her to flick books then - she'll go mental! Nice dress btw.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 April 2006 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Sara is walking/running everywhere now, and has even started major tantrums against the many "don't touch this&that" that I'm forced to say to her (I really need to start moving dangerous stuff out of her reach). She was given a baby doll yesterday by my sister and she keeps slapping the little one around, but feeds her and dresses her as well. we're training her for the little brother/sister on the way...So she's great fun to be with, we spent a few days off together for Easter holidays and she was wild with joy all the time, running after dogs and people and pigeons, eating with us in bars and restaurants. it makes me so warm to think she's grown this much already and is so indipendent.

misshajim (strand), Thursday, 20 April 2006 07:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh, the tantrums when Ava's told that she's not allowed to put everything in her mouth. She growls like some kind of demon child.

Let's talk about...strollers! Specifically those accursed double-buggies, cos, er, we're going to need one later in the year. eBay seems the way to go (preying on those poor unfortunates who forget to make a reserve price) cos those Mutsi and Jane things are frighteningly expensive new. One in front, one behind is our preferred option; the double-width ones just seem designed to run peds off the pavement.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 20 April 2006 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I think you should build your own, Goodies-style.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 April 2006 08:18 (twenty years ago)

aw congrats michael! I find craigslist useful for that kind of thing too.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:49 (twenty years ago)

I am looking after Edith all on my own all day long on Saturday.

I am sure we will both have a lovely time.

Won't we?

I said, WON'T WE?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 21 April 2006 06:27 (twenty years ago)

Of course you will!
hope the weather is nice so you can take her out a lot, she gets very tired and is asleep by 8 pm... By the way, I was looking forward to something similar myself but was then forced to some saturday-meeting for work, so now I have to leave Sara at my mum's instead of spending the whole day together with her...umpf

misshajim (strand), Friday, 21 April 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)

Mary, do you like children?

I wonder what you would have thought of our 3-year-old at the library the other day. He was making nice chit-chat with the librarian, telling her what kind of books he likes and whatnot. Then we walked away from the desk and he turned back and loudly said, "Oh, I want to tell you one more thing!... If you ever have a wedgy, just pull your underpants out of your BUTT!" I was mortified. I laughed so hard I cried. The whole children's room was in stitches.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I love children. It's the parents who can get annoying. (I'm not talking about normal parents--I'm talking about over-achiever parents.)

Mary (Mary), Friday, 21 April 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah don't you hate when people think they're above other people.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 21 April 2006 22:59 (twenty years ago)

My daughter is now almost five months old. She still looks remarkably like her brothers. The dreaded teeth are starting to come. You get this little breather of sleeping where they finally go through the night and it lasts a couple of months and then either hunger (time to start solids) or teeth start to ruin it all.

We'll probably start testing solids (i.e. cereal) in the next week or so. Oh, the mess that is. Plus, it takes about five times as long to feed and you have to drag food stuff out of the house with you all the time...way more planning involved.

Teeny and Gypsy: the worry about school never ends. Ever. My three year old is starting to read and I had some private school snob come up to me and warn me that the public school would probably "give him a bad early reading experience." I wonder if that bitch rude woman heard me curse her under my breath as she walked off.

don weiner (don weiner), Saturday, 22 April 2006 00:02 (twenty years ago)

Don that woman sucks. We don't agree about some things, but I'm with you 1000% on that one.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 22 April 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)

Oliver is 18 months today. Saying lots of words like "flower" ("wower") and "diaper" ("wiper"). One cool thing is seeing how much he likes other kids. He goes up and kisses and hugs his friends (from daycare) and sees kids his size on the street and points and waves. Party animal. Pretty awesome. He's very into books, I can read the same book to him 5x and he wants another go. It's a cool age.

mcd (mcd), Saturday, 22 April 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Horse! One! *ring* Hello! Pig! Five! Three! Eight! *snap* One! One! One! One! One! One! Pig! Duck! Four! Four! Seven! Nine! Three! Two! Hello! Hello! Three! Five! Six! Two! *ring* Puppy! Four! Cat! Horse! Goodbye! Duck! Pig! Duck! Puppy! Horse! Nine! *snap* One! Four! Three! One! One! One! One! Three! Eight! Four! Five! Pig! Puppy! Cat! Duck! Duck! Duck! Puppy! *snap* Five! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Four! Two! Six! One! Nine! Three! Six! Goodbye! One! Five! Six! Nine! Seven! Four! Two! Two! *snap* Puppy! *ring* Cat! Horse! Puppy!

Andy_K (Andy_K), Saturday, 22 April 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

La-la la la, la-la la la, Elmo's World! Thanks for calling! One! Two! Five! Seven! Thanks for calling! Three! Seven! Eight! Thanks for calling! La-la la la, la-la la la, Elmo's World! Thanks for calling! Thanks for calling! Thanks for calling! One! Two! Five! Seven!

Andy_K (Andy_K), Saturday, 22 April 2006 22:01 (twenty years ago)


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