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Oh okay, twist my arm. Nigel, the still-huggable one.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:55 (twenty years ago)

See! Still a hugger! He came home after one semester of college in California because he missed this gf so much. Then they split up, but natch.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Another of Tucker at Joshua tree.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Oops! Too small!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:21 (twenty years ago)

That whole thing of blaming the parents seems to be a specialty of our generation

my sister went through a period of worrying about this shortly after she became a mom. she was like, 'all my friends hate their parents! i don't want my son to hate me!'

i told her, look, if he makes it to adulthood alive and capable of taking care of himself, you've done your job. anything beyond that is a bonus. sometimes it helps to take a biological perspective.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Awesome YouTube video of Sterling, bubbles and Krautrock:

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnvscq3dfYk

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

error! I want more pics of sterling though. and you reminded me to watch some old video of my boy, I can't believe how much he's grown in two months.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

he's currently sleeping (in his crib YAY) and I'm sitting here looking at pictures, what a goober I am!

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

All these wonderful kid photos totally zing my heartstrings! I revel in our empty nest, really, but looking at these, I want our kids back! I actually encouraged my 24 y.o. daughter to come live with us when I saw her a few weeks ago.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

I know! It seems so weird that my kids are living elsewhere. Neglectful.
My younger son is always calling for cooking advice, and once in a while comes over with an empty jar for me to fill with mustard vinaigrette. I've showed him how, but he still wants mine.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

dammit i have to start posting some kidpics here, your guys' kids are all amazingly awesome-like

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)

The video works now...

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

It's especially hard that my son lives diagonally across the entire country from us, and has, apparently, a life. So I don't hear from him much. Unless I beg him for programming help :)

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

holy moly douglas that is great!

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

That's so cool. Did you mean to sync those two bounces with the two cymbal splashes at the end just before the background changed the last time? A great coincidence if you didn't.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Lisa made the video all by herself (they're in Portland right now, I've been in New York for the last week), & it would not surprise me if she planned it that way...

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:36 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/lunacee/Spencerbird2.jpg

Happy the lorikeets are pooping on something/someone else.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/lunacee/pettingsharks.jpg

Petting the sharks.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Just magical, Douglas. (I've used Firefox's special powers to save it to disk for Pam to watch later...)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:13 (twenty years ago)

She has at least one tear-inducing (rhyming with year, not fair)

There must be a scouse joke in here somewhere.

Maybe: imagine Ray Stubbs saying it?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)

Luna, your little boy is such a cutie! And not afraid of fearsome sharks!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Update—my 21-year-old is camped out here with a rotten bronchial infection. He has his own apartment on the other side of the island, but he needed some tea and sympathy. What a luxuriant pleasure this is, even though the poor kid is miserable!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Rufus projectile vomited last night for the FIRST time in his 3 years of life. He was up all night getting sick. Now he's camped on the couch. We just managed to get him to eat a little something. Scott is nursing him back to health. Poor guy.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Next time I'm ill, I'll come knocking on your door, Beth. I hear you give good tea and sympathy.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Rufus projectile vomited last night for the FIRST time in his 3 years of life.

Ugh Maria, I feel for you. I remember when my son went through a bout of sickness that included lots of vomiting and vile disgustingness I don't like to talk about. I ended up taking him to the ER because he couldn't keep any liquid inside and I could see him getting dehydrated and I needed help. Yeah, I know doctors are smart and they've been through tons of school and stuff, but sometimes I wish they would give moms credit for knowing SOMETHING. They didn't think he was dehydrated and decided to take a urine sample to see what was making him sick. It was so bad, I wanted to strangle the doctor. In the end I got very mean and told her that I said he was dehydrated and I meant it and if he's dehydrated he's not going to have any urine and she could take that little tube out of my screaming boy right now, thank you very much. They ended up giving us a prescription for an anal suppository (another vile thought) and sent us on our way. That little butt pill worked wonders.

Being a mom is so great. Thanks for letting me share.

Rebekkah (burntbrat), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Yup. Suppository-form Tylenol was our only option with one baby, he was such a pill-puker.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:36 (twenty years ago)

Maria, there's some dread ailment going around the island. Fever, bronchial woes, then the sinuses. Poor Tucker. He finally went home. Wah.
I made him endless cups of herba-tussin tea with lemon, honey and cayenne.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)

aw get well wishes to all the little (and bigger) ones, nothing more sad than a sick kid. At age 3 mos, my boy is exhibiting some teething symptoms!!! I will be so shocked if he is an early teether, neither me nor mr teeny were. Although I guess the symptoms can manifest months before the actual tooth, who knows. He wants to chew on things and he goes back and forth between happy and sad very quickly, suddenly lots of drool and trouble sleeping.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like it to me. Poor babykins!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:57 (twenty years ago)

cute kid activity of the week: little z has taken to combining two of his recently acquired skills -- walking and blowing kisses. so he has a tendency to strut around a room cavalierly bestowing air smooches (which of course he gets lots of positive reinforcement for from charmed grown-ups). but last week we were at a pizza place, and he was doing his free-range roaming -- that little beginning-toddler frankenstein walk -- and he spotted a little girl, maybe 3 or 4, in a red dress. when he got within a few feet of her, he started in with the kiss-blowing, which her parents found hilarious and she seemed to just find puzzling. then -- and this is the first time i've seen him do this -- he walked right up to her, put his head on her shoulder (which was as high as his head reached) and put his arm around her. it was fairly adorable.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh, wow. That is so precious, gypsy. Write it down so you won't forget it.

Rebekkah (burntbrat), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:48 (twenty years ago)

Trixie Tracker is finally live!
http://www.trixietracker.com/

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:05 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/45/111084702_3fd4477089_m.jpg http://static.flickr.com/19/111076025_9a5ec44d41_m.jpg

me at 7 months and my boy at 3 months.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 12 March 2006 00:43 (twenty years ago)

It's weird that I am so attracted to this thread. I work in reproductive counseling e.g. options counseling e.g. counseling young women to choose birth control or(me) doling out the ECP (Plan B). We're not Planned Parenthood, so we don't have to have our lives phsically threatened by offering abortion...and our clinic is not set up to do so. But we do lots of STD testing, including HIV testing, as well.
But somehow I am drawn to this thread. I wish I could link it at work, and show it to young women who are NOT READY to have a baby, to show them that making a choice today does not mean that tomorrow's choice can't be a more stable, happy life. it would be a good educational tool, in many ways, especially if the viewer could see 'I'm in a band and I'm a mom!" and that sort of thing.
I have met one of Beth's sons - and the great thing was how happy he was to see his mom and meet her friend! (And they are both really, really gorgeous! Um ALL -Beth, Nigel and Tucker!)
I wish there was a way to bridge the gap between making a concious choice and desiring something/someone to love you.
Beth talks about making tea for her adult son - I'm sure all of you who are raising little ones will anticipate that process of parenting. How many parents on this thread can turn to their parents for tea? And how many expect to provide the tea for their children? it's an interesting dichotomy.
Anywhoo - it makes me happy to look at babies.probably because of my job - I spend a lot of time counseling people against unwanted pregnancy.So the splendid proof of babies being born - and lifting their little heads and being surprised by sunshine - makes me very, very happy. Not as weepy as Archel, but I admit to a broodiness as well. I Want One! But not today. And maybe having yours, in this forum, is good enough for me.
Plus sleeping late really rocks. As does staying up late and watching dumb stuff on tv and/or the internet.
Thank you parents!- Alison

aimurchie (aimurchie), Sunday, 12 March 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

All of us except little Cyrus were dog sick yesterday. Maybe that flu shot worked for Cyrus. Scott insists that we didn't have the flu, but rather gastroenteritis. I won't go into details, let's just say it was explosive. I never thought I'd long for the old days when I could just lay in bed and feel sorry for myself when sick. It's a whole different ball game when you have to change diapers and keep moving when ill. Today we felt much better, threw open the windows, went outside, planted peas in the garden...

Teeny, we thought Cyrus was teething at very young (drooling, gumming things like crazy). He just cut his first two teeth a week or so ago. He's 9 months old. We thought those teeth were going to pop out any time, but it took a long time.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

yeah the symptoms all disappeared the day after I wrote that!

and thanks alison for that post, not to open a can of worms but going through pregnancy and childbirth and motherhood has made me a lot more pro-choice than I used to be but also a lot more mooshy about babies and fetuses and stuff. I think it's said so often that babies change your life that it's lost its meaning. Making the decision to have a kid means that my body will never be the same, my brain will never be the same, I've lost a good portion of my economic independence that I've worked so hard to get. And I'm a healthy, married, college-educated, white American 30-year old, I have everything going for me.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 12 March 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)

so how do you entertain a five year old in a small town for an afternoon?

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 March 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Plonk it down in front of the big square babysitter in the living room?

Mädchen (Madchen), Sunday, 12 March 2006 20:11 (twenty years ago)

Go the the thrift shop and get some trucks and Legos and G.I. Joes! Visiting kids are thrilled to find toys.
Feed ducks.
Watch airplanes. Is there a diner at your small town airport?
Go to a playground.
The new Wallace and Gromit is out on DVD.
Take a nap.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:55 (twenty years ago)

we went toboganning

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:37 (twenty years ago)

Sterling's first birthday party was today (birthday's not till Tuesday: it's 3/14, "pi day," so I baked him his first apple pie). A bunch of our non- or not-yet-breeding friends came over, and so did half a dozen mamas and babies from S.'s mama-and-baby group. One of the not-yet-breeding couples was watching the tiny ones crawling around and giggling on the floor; she put his arm around his waist and rested her head on his shoulder. "Is that the 'I want one' hug?" he asked. She jumped. "Oh, God, you're right," she said.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:41 (twenty years ago)

i like watching how people respond to babies. it's like a rorschach test. some of our friends are totally smitten with the kid, and others i can tell feel about him the way i do about some people's pets: yeah, he's cute, but can you keep him away from me?

happy b-day to sterling. a year is quite an accomplishment, when it's the only one you've had.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Happy birthday Sterling for tomorrow! This sounds really banal, but there are some seriously amazing and precious things that'll happen in the year ahead. Enjoy yourselves and eat lots of cake!

NickB (NickB), Monday, 13 March 2006 09:27 (twenty years ago)

(Having said that, our two year old has just discovered the joys of REALLY yelling at the top of his lungs in the car. Oh my poor head)

NickB (NickB), Monday, 13 March 2006 09:28 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/40/106764847_c8b0947d98.jpg?v=0

Me with my late grandfather.

http://static.flickr.com/34/95772448_37fadad1e9.jpg?v=0

Ophelia

Ophelia's been wonderful. She doesn't sleep through the night like Teeny's baby did. Teeny, didn't he sleep through the night when he was seven weeks old? Well, Ophelia wakes up about two or three times a night now. I think it's GR34T. I now go to sleep at around nine-ish to catch up on sleep because my body's a wreck. Either my iron is too low or my blood pressure, cause I'm floating on clouds at the moment.

Ophelia has laughed a lot lately. I remember when she turned her head, looked at me and cracked a big smile... and then a bigger one. I nearly started crying, I was so happy. :-)))

Breastfeeding is great by the way. I have to say, few women I know did breastfeeding. Really strange... Well, not really, I can understand cause the first three weeks were painful and, heck, when you need to go back to work... I have given her a few bottles of formula (one time cause I was away for a perm and haircut and the second time for a photosession).

The other week we went for a photosession. hahaha What an experience. She cried of course but the photographer was great.

Teeny, are you back at work yet or will you remain at home for a longer time? It's been quite hard combining work with taking care of Ophelia. Thank god, I have a fantastic husband who will sometimes take care of her while I work.

I was always pro-choice but having Ophelia I now fully understand the implications of becoming a mother and thus understand even better that pro-choice is necessary. That said, I would never ever have an abortion. But that's because I have the luxury of making that choice. Not everyone is up for it. (Is that well put? My English has gone down the loo. heh)

Sorry for the long post.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 13 March 2006 09:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh and she lifts her head! She's also grabbing at things, really PULLING hard at'em. *sigh* I love her so much. I still am amazed she came out of ME!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 13 March 2006 09:46 (twenty years ago)

She is absolutely beautiful Nath :)

Archel (Archel), Monday, 13 March 2006 09:48 (twenty years ago)

She's gorgeous, Nathalie. I have a great urge to untuck her ear in that photo, though! *Wince*.

A little light drooling on battery-powered devices never did any harm... (Oh, hang on, this is how Pam's mobile died...)

http://static.flickr.com/38/111448504_b5dd3cb23a.jpg

13 months tomorrow. Much sleep disruption with teething pains this last week and now she's having to endure our gas central heating installation (drilling and sawing = no naps & great need for reassuring cuddles from Mum). MMR jab next week.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 13 March 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)

what a lovely update nath! that first smile is so wonderful. Louis's smile crept up on us though, I couldn't point to when it happened.

sleeping through the night--I read somewhere that this is defined as going more than five hours without waking? I dunno. Funny you bring it up because I say we just last night had our first official sleeping through the night--10p to 6:30a without waking up or eating. That seems like way too long to go without eating though! However I know it was because very early on he rolled over from his back to his belly and I left him there, he sleeps so much more soundly on his belly. I don't know if they're as hard-core about it outside the US, but they really yell at you to always always put the baby on its back to sleep, it's reduced the rate of crib death by like half since they started doing this in 1992. So I feel a little guilty about leaving him on his belly but oh well.

Louis has always been good about letting me get enough sleep--probably starting around 4 weeks he settled into a good pattern of nighttime sleeping where he would wake up once or twice a night for a feeding and then go right back to sleep. However this only worked if he slept with me in my bed because he would wake up at other times too, and if he fussed enough to wake me up, I could just give him a little pat and he'd go right back to sleep, whereas if he was in the crib he'd work himself into a state by the time I could get to him. Babies are always going to wake up lots during the night, it's just about how they react to waking up and if they can get themselves back to sleep. And I'm sure you've read like I have that breastfed babies often need a middle of the night feeding into the sixth month.

I am working just a little bit--less than I did before the baby. My mom comes and watches the baby when I'm scheduled to work at the radio station, and then I have a couple of freelance web design jobs that I can work on in my spare moments at home. But it's more for my ego than any actual money I'm bringing in (although that's nice too).

teeny (teeny), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:37 (twenty years ago)


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