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Archel, you're not alone. I always loved kids. But during and after ùy mregnany I get teary-eyed easily.

Mark, I hope my Ophelia will be as coolio as yours!!!

http://static.flickr.com/38/103358156_c77ef4b837.jpg?v=0

My little icebear! :-)

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)

I know, this thread makes me teary, too. I get this perfect sense-memory of picking my babies up. The heft of them, and the way they'd mold their bodies onto my hip. The kissability of them.
My older one is still very hug-and-kiss-able. The younger is more "aw mom, cut it out," but sweet nonetheless.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:00 (twenty years ago)

oh wow mark that is so cool.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I can't imagine what my mother must be going through right now, with my brother in enormous legal trouble and about to be thrown under the jail for good. He's back in a stretch now of laying all the blame for "how he turned out" at my parents' feet, and it suits me fine if he succeeds in making my dad feel like a shitheel, but I hate the way it's tearing up my mom. This is the other side of parenting that nobody thinks about when they've got cute little baybees, sorry if it's a downer.

― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

I think about it all the time! Every family has its black sheep, even if it's just relatively speaking (so to speak). It makes me afraid to have more kinda.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that was dumb of me to say "nobody thinks about" it. Move to strike, Yr. Honor.

― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes. My mother's oldest baby became a Scientologist, then got a brain tumor and died. Babies are cussed. That's why it's crucial that they are so appealing.
That whole thing of blaming the parents seems to be a specialty of our generation, Rock. My own kids seem to be completely free of it, and lord knows I lost my cool more than a few times. Now everyone's been indoctrinated to blame their brain chemistry.
Good that you're there for your mom, on her side if not by her side.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

The black sheep in my family - or rather sheeps - are my two grannies. One was an alcoholic bitch. She drank through her pregnancy but has now quit. Hence she's only an annoying bitch now. She only loves her dogs, although they are spoiled animals who bite my grandfather. (Actually there could be alink here!) She told me that my dad kicked her when he was inside her belly. Uh,how could she know it was my dad if there was also a twin sister? Maybe he didn't like her drinking. He didn't actually cause he did have problems due to her drinking. Afterwards he was also emotionally and physically abused. The other grandmother complains about her painful delivery every time my mother *celebrates* her birthday. She dumped my mom in a boarding school because she didn't have time for my mom. She was a housewife ffs, how could she not have time? When I was pregnant, she immediately told me about her *horrible* delivery AGAIN until I told her to shut up because I had already heard about it numerous times. Grandmothers? Fuck'em. My blood boils every time I have to face'em.

*sigh* I think in part this is why my parents are so great. They learned what not to do. They are the bestest parents I could have wanted. Maybe a bit too perfect.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Wow, what a story. Sorry about the horrid grannies—it would have been cool for your baby to know her great-greats, but instead of that you're going to have to put up an barbed-wire fence to keep them away!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Hah! If only we could! One granny only came after two weeks. Granted she was a bit sick. She only came by cause she had to leave the house for light mass, not for Ophelia. She looked one time atthe baby and said:"What a sweetie. Don't you agree?" I sneered:"Of course, don't all mothers love their child?" hahahahah

ANYWAY, Beth, you have such cute sons. Post more pics!

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh okay, twist my arm. Nigel, the still-huggable one.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:55 (twenty years ago)

See! Still a hugger! He came home after one semester of college in California because he missed this gf so much. Then they split up, but natch.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Another of Tucker at Joshua tree.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Oops! Too small!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:21 (twenty years ago)

That whole thing of blaming the parents seems to be a specialty of our generation

my sister went through a period of worrying about this shortly after she became a mom. she was like, 'all my friends hate their parents! i don't want my son to hate me!'

i told her, look, if he makes it to adulthood alive and capable of taking care of himself, you've done your job. anything beyond that is a bonus. sometimes it helps to take a biological perspective.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Awesome YouTube video of Sterling, bubbles and Krautrock:

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnvscq3dfYk

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

error! I want more pics of sterling though. and you reminded me to watch some old video of my boy, I can't believe how much he's grown in two months.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

he's currently sleeping (in his crib YAY) and I'm sitting here looking at pictures, what a goober I am!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

All these wonderful kid photos totally zing my heartstrings! I revel in our empty nest, really, but looking at these, I want our kids back! I actually encouraged my 24 y.o. daughter to come live with us when I saw her a few weeks ago.

― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

I know! It seems so weird that my kids are living elsewhere. Neglectful.
My younger son is always calling for cooking advice, and once in a while comes over with an empty jar for me to fill with mustard vinaigrette. I've showed him how, but he still wants mine.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

dammit i have to start posting some kidpics here, your guys' kids are all amazingly awesome-like

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)

The video works now...

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

It's especially hard that my son lives diagonally across the entire country from us, and has, apparently, a life. So I don't hear from him much. Unless I beg him for programming help :)

― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

holy moly douglas that is great!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

That's so cool. Did you mean to sync those two bounces with the two cymbal splashes at the end just before the background changed the last time? A great coincidence if you didn't.

― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Lisa made the video all by herself (they're in Portland right now, I've been in New York for the last week), & it would not surprise me if she planned it that way...

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:36 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/lunacee/Spencerbird2.jpg

Happy the lorikeets are pooping on something/someone else.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/lunacee/pettingsharks.jpg

Petting the sharks.

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Just magical, Douglas. (I've used Firefox's special powers to save it to disk for Pam to watch later...)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:13 (twenty years ago)

She has at least one tear-inducing (rhyming with year, not fair)

There must be a scouse joke in here somewhere.

Maybe: imagine Ray Stubbs saying it?

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)

Luna, your little boy is such a cutie! And not afraid of fearsome sharks!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Update—my 21-year-old is camped out here with a rotten bronchial infection. He has his own apartment on the other side of the island, but he needed some tea and sympathy. What a luxuriant pleasure this is, even though the poor kid is miserable!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Rufus projectile vomited last night for the FIRST time in his 3 years of life. He was up all night getting sick. Now he's camped on the couch. We just managed to get him to eat a little something. Scott is nursing him back to health. Poor guy.

― Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Next time I'm ill, I'll come knocking on your door, Beth. I hear you give good tea and sympathy.

― Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Rufus projectile vomited last night for the FIRST time in his 3 years of life.

Ugh Maria, I feel for you. I remember when my son went through a bout of sickness that included lots of vomiting and vile disgustingness I don't like to talk about. I ended up taking him to the ER because he couldn't keep any liquid inside and I could see him getting dehydrated and I needed help. Yeah, I know doctors are smart and they've been through tons of school and stuff, but sometimes I wish they would give moms credit for knowing SOMETHING. They didn't think he was dehydrated and decided to take a urine sample to see what was making him sick. It was so bad, I wanted to strangle the doctor. In the end I got very mean and told her that I said he was dehydrated and I meant it and if he's dehydrated he's not going to have any urine and she could take that little tube out of my screaming boy right now, thank you very much. They ended up giving us a prescription for an anal suppository (another vile thought) and sent us on our way. That little butt pill worked wonders.

Being a mom is so great. Thanks for letting me share.

― Rebekkah (burntbrat), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Yup. Suppository-form Tylenol was our only option with one baby, he was such a pill-puker.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:36 (twenty years ago)

Maria, there's some dread ailment going around the island. Fever, bronchial woes, then the sinuses. Poor Tucker. He finally went home. Wah.
I made him endless cups of herba-tussin tea with lemon, honey and cayenne.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)

aw get well wishes to all the little (and bigger) ones, nothing more sad than a sick kid. At age 3 mos, my boy is exhibiting some teething symptoms!!! I will be so shocked if he is an early teether, neither me nor mr teeny were. Although I guess the symptoms can manifest months before the actual tooth, who knows. He wants to chew on things and he goes back and forth between happy and sad very quickly, suddenly lots of drool and trouble sleeping.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like it to me. Poor babykins!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:57 (twenty years ago)

cute kid activity of the week: little z has taken to combining two of his recently acquired skills -- walking and blowing kisses. so he has a tendency to strut around a room cavalierly bestowing air smooches (which of course he gets lots of positive reinforcement for from charmed grown-ups). but last week we were at a pizza place, and he was doing his free-range roaming -- that little beginning-toddler frankenstein walk -- and he spotted a little girl, maybe 3 or 4, in a red dress. when he got within a few feet of her, he started in with the kiss-blowing, which her parents found hilarious and she seemed to just find puzzling. then -- and this is the first time i've seen him do this -- he walked right up to her, put his head on her shoulder (which was as high as his head reached) and put his arm around her. it was fairly adorable.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh, wow. That is so precious, gypsy. Write it down so you won't forget it.

― Rebekkah (burntbrat), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:48 (twenty years ago)

Trixie Tracker is finally live!
http://www.trixietracker.com/

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:05 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/45/111084702_3fd4477089_m.jpg http://static.flickr.com/19/111076025_9a5ec44d41_m.jpg

me at 7 months and my boy at 3 months.

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 12 March 2006 00:43 (twenty years ago)

It's weird that I am so attracted to this thread. I work in reproductive counseling e.g. options counseling e.g. counseling young women to choose birth control or(me) doling out the ECP (Plan B). We're not Planned Parenthood, so we don't have to have our lives phsically threatened by offering abortion...and our clinic is not set up to do so. But we do lots of STD testing, including HIV testing, as well.
But somehow I am drawn to this thread. I wish I could link it at work, and show it to young women who are NOT READY to have a baby, to show them that making a choice today does not mean that tomorrow's choice can't be a more stable, happy life. it would be a good educational tool, in many ways, especially if the viewer could see 'I'm in a band and I'm a mom!" and that sort of thing.
I have met one of Beth's sons - and the great thing was how happy he was to see his mom and meet her friend! (And they are both really, really gorgeous! Um ALL -Beth, Nigel and Tucker!)
I wish there was a way to bridge the gap between making a concious choice and desiring something/someone to love you.
Beth talks about making tea for her adult son - I'm sure all of you who are raising little ones will anticipate that process of parenting. How many parents on this thread can turn to their parents for tea? And how many expect to provide the tea for their children? it's an interesting dichotomy.
Anywhoo - it makes me happy to look at babies.probably because of my job - I spend a lot of time counseling people against unwanted pregnancy.So the splendid proof of babies being born - and lifting their little heads and being surprised by sunshine - makes me very, very happy. Not as weepy as Archel, but I admit to a broodiness as well. I Want One! But not today. And maybe having yours, in this forum, is good enough for me.
Plus sleeping late really rocks. As does staying up late and watching dumb stuff on tv and/or the internet.
Thank you parents!- Alison

― aimurchie (aimurchie), Sunday, 12 March 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

All of us except little Cyrus were dog sick yesterday. Maybe that flu shot worked for Cyrus. Scott insists that we didn't have the flu, but rather gastroenteritis. I won't go into details, let's just say it was explosive. I never thought I'd long for the old days when I could just lay in bed and feel sorry for myself when sick. It's a whole different ball game when you have to change diapers and keep moving when ill. Today we felt much better, threw open the windows, went outside, planted peas in the garden...

Teeny, we thought Cyrus was teething at very young (drooling, gumming things like crazy). He just cut his first two teeth a week or so ago. He's 9 months old. We thought those teeth were going to pop out any time, but it took a long time.

― Maria :D (Maria D.), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

yeah the symptoms all disappeared the day after I wrote that!

and thanks alison for that post, not to open a can of worms but going through pregnancy and childbirth and motherhood has made me a lot more pro-choice than I used to be but also a lot more mooshy about babies and fetuses and stuff. I think it's said so often that babies change your life that it's lost its meaning. Making the decision to have a kid means that my body will never be the same, my brain will never be the same, I've lost a good portion of my economic independence that I've worked so hard to get. And I'm a healthy, married, college-educated, white American 30-year old, I have everything going for me.

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 12 March 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)

so how do you entertain a five year old in a small town for an afternoon?

― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 March 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Plonk it down in front of the big square babysitter in the living room?

― Mädchen (Madchen), Sunday, 12 March 2006 20:11 (twenty years ago)

Go the the thrift shop and get some trucks and Legos and G.I. Joes! Visiting kids are thrilled to find toys.
Feed ducks.
Watch airplanes. Is there a diner at your small town airport?
Go to a playground.
The new Wallace and Gromit is out on DVD.
Take a nap.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:55 (twenty years ago)

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