Hello Mudduh Hello Fadduh: ILX Rolling Parenting Thread

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I'm a big fan of his ENORMOUS farts. He ripped one earlier when we were coaxing him to 'talk' for a guest. Good stuff.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 19 February 2006 02:11 (twenty years ago)

it's funny how having a kid suddenly makes all kids seem fascinating to me. like, i knew the thing about "everybody thinks their own kid is amazing," but it also just tunes you into the whole kid-world. now all the strollers crowding the sidewalks don't seem like generic nuisances anymore, they seem like conveyances full of these interesting, individual little people.

This is very true - I completely adore all the neighbourhood babies to the extent of knowing their names and not their parents', knowing their foibles and illnesses and oddities but not knowing their parents' professions. We went to a joint 1st-birthday party yesterday for Ava and Finlay and I was completely in my element; rather than talk to the adults about property prices or holidays I was scrabbling about on the floor with Ruby, Dominick, Harry, Calum et al. An occasion like this does rather bring home the fact that Ava is a tiny creature; she's one of only two girls in her peer group and is one of the younger ones (the age range of this crowd is 10-15 months) but still she seems like a real shortarse. Not surprising given her parents are five-three and five-six but we should probably check her on the chart sometime (it's been months since we did a length [or, now, height] measurement).

Compared to her chums, Ava is more likely to wander off independently into another room (some of them aren't walking), more likely to examine an object in great, exhaustive detail before chucking it on the floor, but less likely (indeed, just not yet able) to stack blocks or put things inside other things in a constructive way. Ruby is the star of the bunch - she moves like a dancer and is the most articulate babbler. Dom is the sweetest, shyest boy; he reminds me of PJM's Edith in her mellow moments.

When's the next party?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 19 February 2006 13:19 (twenty years ago)

also, a really good book for new parents is What To Expect the First Year. It goes month-by-month and is really dumbed down to read intermittently while on the toilet for quick reading. It is part of the same series What To Expect When You're Expecting and What To Expect In the Toddler Years.

don weiner (don weiner), Sunday, 19 February 2006 20:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah, we've got the whole what to expect series. it's nice to have a manual.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 19 February 2006 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Ah funny, we ordered this book! We absolutely LOVE it. One of the midwives at the hospital was a bit surprised because it's an American book (so not in our language). I had to explain that I mainly read in English and so on and so on. It's a great book. I was pleasantly surprised today: I looked up when babies start to walk. Apparently my mum was VERY advanced: she could walk (on her own, so without clinging on to furniture) from NINE MONTHS OLD! She could also say a few words at that age!!!! WTF, she walked at NINE MONTHS OLD.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 19 February 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Here's my big baby.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Or, "What to Expect in The Third Decade."

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)

I actually have two of them, but this one has a MySpace page, so I could snag the picture.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Same kid

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

and his brother

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

that beach pic is especially great!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

I love that picture. He's so blissed-out!
I have discovered photobucket! Now I'm going to be a total pain in the ass. Brace yourselves. I have SO MANY pictures!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Tucker again. That's what leaving them at the beach for a few years will do.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

Nigel again. In all the current photos I have of him he's either giving the finger, smoking a joint, or wrapped around a blonde. Sigh.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:02 (twenty years ago)

I'll stop now.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

don't stop on my account, I have an incredibly high tolerance for baby pics these days.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:18 (twenty years ago)

new in my life: head/neck control! head and chest-lifting when on tummy! rolling from front to back!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/27/103835539_fab7084abf_m.jpg

the head control makes him look like such a little man.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:39 (twenty years ago)

I would like to smooch his face off, please.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/joeljon.jpg

Joel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/han.jpg

Hannah

Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Don't mess with her! What cuties. Teenie, your little boy looks just like you, but with supercheeks!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:09 (twenty years ago)

There's a phase with babies just before they start talking where their expressions look super-intelligent, like Teeny Jr there.

Then they start talking and it's all "Poo" and "Teletubbies".

Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:11 (twenty years ago)

What is not super-intelligent about that?

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

Hannah is a sassy lil thing, isn't she? Joel reminds me of my son - why do little boys always either open their mouths really wide or just scream in pictures? I don't get it.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:41 (twenty years ago)

Also Beth, as I'm sure you know, your sons are hot!

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:45 (twenty years ago)

what do you know about downs syndrome?
help

lo, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:58 (twenty years ago)

Luna, they are available.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 01:00 (twenty years ago)

Ophelia lifts her head as well! Not much, but enough to get us VERY excited. She also coos a lot and even smiles a little bit. She especially likes to smile in her dreams. She obviously has pleasant dreams. :-)

Lo, I would assume the Downs your baby might have, isn't that heavy (or however you would say it) because otherwise they would have noticed it at birth, no?

God, sleep deprivation has made my English CRAP. :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 08:42 (twenty years ago)

One of these nights I'm going to take a Calpol overdose.

Latest illness: bacterial conjunctivitis.

BUT...

Today is Edith's last day at the nursery. Hooray!

Apparently she hides her food under the table in the hope that they will think she's eaten it. I think this is remarkable in an 11 month old baby. I hope she grows up to be a successful con artist and launders some money my way. (Note, this is quite a step-up from my previous ambition for her: chimney sweep.)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh that is so sweet!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I am very proud of her.

I'm not sure I should be, but I am.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 09:30 (twenty years ago)

This is the wrong side of the law for Edith to be on if our hoped-for Rosemary & Thyme scenario is to pan out. Adds a bit of spice to things though. Maybe it'll be more like The Shield or Serpico.

A birthday outfit for a Feb 14 baby:

http://static.flickr.com/19/100963310_120159f3d9.jpg

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 10:48 (twenty years ago)

Adorable! I actually have tears in my eyes when I look at the pictures on this thread. Guess I'm at that broody age...

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 10:50 (twenty years ago)

http://69.72.228.43/~go-quick/pics/seewas.jpg
Amber and Alice, April 2003

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/MarkGrout/AAGuitrock.jpg
Amber and Alice, Feb 26th 2006

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 12:25 (twenty years ago)

Archel, you're not alone. I always loved kids. But during and after ùy mregnany I get teary-eyed easily.

Mark, I hope my Ophelia will be as coolio as yours!!!

http://static.flickr.com/38/103358156_c77ef4b837.jpg?v=0

My little icebear! :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)

I know, this thread makes me teary, too. I get this perfect sense-memory of picking my babies up. The heft of them, and the way they'd mold their bodies onto my hip. The kissability of them.
My older one is still very hug-and-kiss-able. The younger is more "aw mom, cut it out," but sweet nonetheless.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:00 (twenty years ago)

oh wow mark that is so cool.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I can't imagine what my mother must be going through right now, with my brother in enormous legal trouble and about to be thrown under the jail for good. He's back in a stretch now of laying all the blame for "how he turned out" at my parents' feet, and it suits me fine if he succeeds in making my dad feel like a shitheel, but I hate the way it's tearing up my mom. This is the other side of parenting that nobody thinks about when they've got cute little baybees, sorry if it's a downer.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

I think about it all the time! Every family has its black sheep, even if it's just relatively speaking (so to speak). It makes me afraid to have more kinda.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that was dumb of me to say "nobody thinks about" it. Move to strike, Yr. Honor.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes. My mother's oldest baby became a Scientologist, then got a brain tumor and died. Babies are cussed. That's why it's crucial that they are so appealing.
That whole thing of blaming the parents seems to be a specialty of our generation, Rock. My own kids seem to be completely free of it, and lord knows I lost my cool more than a few times. Now everyone's been indoctrinated to blame their brain chemistry.
Good that you're there for your mom, on her side if not by her side.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

The black sheep in my family - or rather sheeps - are my two grannies. One was an alcoholic bitch. She drank through her pregnancy but has now quit. Hence she's only an annoying bitch now. She only loves her dogs, although they are spoiled animals who bite my grandfather. (Actually there could be alink here!) She told me that my dad kicked her when he was inside her belly. Uh,how could she know it was my dad if there was also a twin sister? Maybe he didn't like her drinking. He didn't actually cause he did have problems due to her drinking. Afterwards he was also emotionally and physically abused. The other grandmother complains about her painful delivery every time my mother *celebrates* her birthday. She dumped my mom in a boarding school because she didn't have time for my mom. She was a housewife ffs, how could she not have time? When I was pregnant, she immediately told me about her *horrible* delivery AGAIN until I told her to shut up because I had already heard about it numerous times. Grandmothers? Fuck'em. My blood boils every time I have to face'em.

*sigh* I think in part this is why my parents are so great. They learned what not to do. They are the bestest parents I could have wanted. Maybe a bit too perfect.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Wow, what a story. Sorry about the horrid grannies—it would have been cool for your baby to know her great-greats, but instead of that you're going to have to put up an barbed-wire fence to keep them away!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Hah! If only we could! One granny only came after two weeks. Granted she was a bit sick. She only came by cause she had to leave the house for light mass, not for Ophelia. She looked one time atthe baby and said:"What a sweetie. Don't you agree?" I sneered:"Of course, don't all mothers love their child?" hahahahah

ANYWAY, Beth, you have such cute sons. Post more pics!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh okay, twist my arm. Nigel, the still-huggable one.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:55 (twenty years ago)

See! Still a hugger! He came home after one semester of college in California because he missed this gf so much. Then they split up, but natch.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Another of Tucker at Joshua tree.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Oops! Too small!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:21 (twenty years ago)

That whole thing of blaming the parents seems to be a specialty of our generation

my sister went through a period of worrying about this shortly after she became a mom. she was like, 'all my friends hate their parents! i don't want my son to hate me!'

i told her, look, if he makes it to adulthood alive and capable of taking care of himself, you've done your job. anything beyond that is a bonus. sometimes it helps to take a biological perspective.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)


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