Hello Mudduh Hello Fadduh: ILX Rolling Parenting Thread

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no, I totally hear you, I'm definitely going through a now why did I do this phase at the moment too. I don't know how single parents manage.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 18 February 2006 03:23 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it is very very very difficult. Usually I can see that it's "worth it", and I wouldn't change a thing, but on the occasions when I can't see that it's "worth it" (which usually coincides with being unable to see anything else at all) that is when the "just doing it" kicks in.

It is so nice to have Edith back to normal after her various minor illnesses. Long may it last.

Sleep routine is good, but it all tends to fall apart at the slightest interruption, such as minor illness or visiting grandparents (they must rock), and then it's back to square one. What can you do? They want rocking and you can rock them, so you rock them.

Ha ha, until you give up and go downstairs in a huff, who am I kidding?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Saturday, 18 February 2006 08:35 (twenty years ago)

everything looks better after a night of sleep! now he is the best baby in the world because we slept until 8!

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 18 February 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

"rocking = potential for bad habit"

Dude, keep in mind that in the beginning you can not spoil a baby. I think up until six months a baby can't be spoiled. So let Teeny rock her cute baby. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 18 February 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, Ophelia still wakes up every two hours or even 1,5 hours during the night but also sleeps four hours straight from around 4 until 8 am. I don't really mind the sleep deprivation. I just freak out because I feed her in the dark, put her straight back and then go to sleep which results in me waking up and thinking:"SHIT I DROPPED HER ON THE GROUND!"

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 18 February 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Sleeping: S. slept in our bed every night until he was more than 10 months old, & got in the habit of going to sleep when and only when we did, which meant like 1:30 in the morning sometimes. But if he woke up and was hungry, Mom's Diner was right there.

A couple of weeks ago, we decided: let's try a few nights of you-gotta-do-it-on-your-own-kid. So now we put him in pajamas, read him a story, sing him a song, give him a kiss, set him in his crib, turn out the light and walk out. First night: 20 minutes of screaming, which rent our brains asunder! Second night: 25 minutes of yowling, after which we came into his room and he was asleep sitting up with his arms and legs through the bars of the crib, breaking our hearts! Third night: 20 minutes of screeching, which made us feel like the worst parents in the world! Fourth night and thereafter: maybe 30 seconds of yelping, and then zzz. When he wakes up in the middle of the night, we still bring him into our bed; as long as he's nursing, that makes sense.

Libraries: Portland's library system is awesome. Two weeks after he was born, we got a package from Multnomah County Library: a board-book copy of "Goodnight Moon," as a present from the library system, and an application for his first library card. I want to start taking him to baby-book-time every week.

All of you with infants have read "The Happiest Baby on the Block" and have your Velcro swaddling blankets and/or tight-swaddling technique down, right? It really, really, REALLY works.

Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 18 February 2006 17:55 (twenty years ago)

I don't know how single parents manage.

It ain't easy.

luna (luna.c), Saturday, 18 February 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

Why is it bad to rock babies?

D, that's interesting. I've read about libraries that sound out these emerging literacy carepackets to newborns, but this is the first time I've heard about it actually happening. Do they have a baby lapsit program? Our library waits till they are 1 for the "Little One-Ders" Story Time.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 18 February 2006 23:13 (twenty years ago)

the danger of rocking is that kids can get used to always being rocked to sleep and refuse to go to sleep any other way.

but, you know, i probably rock our kid to sleep once or twice a week. i guess it's indulgent, but the thing is i like it too. it's a very satisfying, protective feeling. and i figure there's some finite number of times i'll be able to rock him to sleep, so i might as well enjoy it while i can. i doubt it's doing anyone any harm.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 18 February 2006 23:55 (twenty years ago)

it's not doing anyone harm and I certainly didn't and don't mean to communicate otherwise. Just trying to keep newer parents wary of how easy it is to develop habits, some of which are very hard to break. Like everything else with parenting, you have to figure out what works for your family.

don weiner (don weiner), Sunday, 19 February 2006 01:54 (twenty years ago)

oh no rocking is certainly not hurting anyone but you don't want to HAVE to do it for an hour every night until the kid is two. xp

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 19 February 2006 01:55 (twenty years ago)

yeah. i think we've avoided that by keeping it a periodic thing, when he's especially fussy, or not feeling well, or just when one of us has the time. i just think a child falling asleep in your arms is one of the nicer experiences of early parenthood.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 19 February 2006 02:02 (twenty years ago)

Having your baby fall asleep in your arms, going "awwww" and then the baby starting to snore — Classic or Dud?

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 19 February 2006 02:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm a big fan of his ENORMOUS farts. He ripped one earlier when we were coaxing him to 'talk' for a guest. Good stuff.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 19 February 2006 02:11 (twenty years ago)

it's funny how having a kid suddenly makes all kids seem fascinating to me. like, i knew the thing about "everybody thinks their own kid is amazing," but it also just tunes you into the whole kid-world. now all the strollers crowding the sidewalks don't seem like generic nuisances anymore, they seem like conveyances full of these interesting, individual little people.

This is very true - I completely adore all the neighbourhood babies to the extent of knowing their names and not their parents', knowing their foibles and illnesses and oddities but not knowing their parents' professions. We went to a joint 1st-birthday party yesterday for Ava and Finlay and I was completely in my element; rather than talk to the adults about property prices or holidays I was scrabbling about on the floor with Ruby, Dominick, Harry, Calum et al. An occasion like this does rather bring home the fact that Ava is a tiny creature; she's one of only two girls in her peer group and is one of the younger ones (the age range of this crowd is 10-15 months) but still she seems like a real shortarse. Not surprising given her parents are five-three and five-six but we should probably check her on the chart sometime (it's been months since we did a length [or, now, height] measurement).

Compared to her chums, Ava is more likely to wander off independently into another room (some of them aren't walking), more likely to examine an object in great, exhaustive detail before chucking it on the floor, but less likely (indeed, just not yet able) to stack blocks or put things inside other things in a constructive way. Ruby is the star of the bunch - she moves like a dancer and is the most articulate babbler. Dom is the sweetest, shyest boy; he reminds me of PJM's Edith in her mellow moments.

When's the next party?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 19 February 2006 13:19 (twenty years ago)

also, a really good book for new parents is What To Expect the First Year. It goes month-by-month and is really dumbed down to read intermittently while on the toilet for quick reading. It is part of the same series What To Expect When You're Expecting and What To Expect In the Toddler Years.

don weiner (don weiner), Sunday, 19 February 2006 20:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah, we've got the whole what to expect series. it's nice to have a manual.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 19 February 2006 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Ah funny, we ordered this book! We absolutely LOVE it. One of the midwives at the hospital was a bit surprised because it's an American book (so not in our language). I had to explain that I mainly read in English and so on and so on. It's a great book. I was pleasantly surprised today: I looked up when babies start to walk. Apparently my mum was VERY advanced: she could walk (on her own, so without clinging on to furniture) from NINE MONTHS OLD! She could also say a few words at that age!!!! WTF, she walked at NINE MONTHS OLD.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 19 February 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Here's my big baby.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Or, "What to Expect in The Third Decade."

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)

I actually have two of them, but this one has a MySpace page, so I could snag the picture.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Same kid

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

and his brother

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

that beach pic is especially great!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

I love that picture. He's so blissed-out!
I have discovered photobucket! Now I'm going to be a total pain in the ass. Brace yourselves. I have SO MANY pictures!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Tucker again. That's what leaving them at the beach for a few years will do.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

Nigel again. In all the current photos I have of him he's either giving the finger, smoking a joint, or wrapped around a blonde. Sigh.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:02 (twenty years ago)

I'll stop now.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

don't stop on my account, I have an incredibly high tolerance for baby pics these days.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:18 (twenty years ago)

new in my life: head/neck control! head and chest-lifting when on tummy! rolling from front to back!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/27/103835539_fab7084abf_m.jpg

the head control makes him look like such a little man.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:39 (twenty years ago)

I would like to smooch his face off, please.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/joeljon.jpg

Joel

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/han.jpg

Hannah

Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Don't mess with her! What cuties. Teenie, your little boy looks just like you, but with supercheeks!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:09 (twenty years ago)

There's a phase with babies just before they start talking where their expressions look super-intelligent, like Teeny Jr there.

Then they start talking and it's all "Poo" and "Teletubbies".

Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:11 (twenty years ago)

What is not super-intelligent about that?

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

Hannah is a sassy lil thing, isn't she? Joel reminds me of my son - why do little boys always either open their mouths really wide or just scream in pictures? I don't get it.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:41 (twenty years ago)

Also Beth, as I'm sure you know, your sons are hot!

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:45 (twenty years ago)

what do you know about downs syndrome?
help

lo, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:58 (twenty years ago)

Luna, they are available.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 01:00 (twenty years ago)

Ophelia lifts her head as well! Not much, but enough to get us VERY excited. She also coos a lot and even smiles a little bit. She especially likes to smile in her dreams. She obviously has pleasant dreams. :-)

Lo, I would assume the Downs your baby might have, isn't that heavy (or however you would say it) because otherwise they would have noticed it at birth, no?

God, sleep deprivation has made my English CRAP. :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 08:42 (twenty years ago)

One of these nights I'm going to take a Calpol overdose.

Latest illness: bacterial conjunctivitis.

BUT...

Today is Edith's last day at the nursery. Hooray!

Apparently she hides her food under the table in the hope that they will think she's eaten it. I think this is remarkable in an 11 month old baby. I hope she grows up to be a successful con artist and launders some money my way. (Note, this is quite a step-up from my previous ambition for her: chimney sweep.)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh that is so sweet!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I am very proud of her.

I'm not sure I should be, but I am.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 09:30 (twenty years ago)

This is the wrong side of the law for Edith to be on if our hoped-for Rosemary & Thyme scenario is to pan out. Adds a bit of spice to things though. Maybe it'll be more like The Shield or Serpico.

A birthday outfit for a Feb 14 baby:

http://static.flickr.com/19/100963310_120159f3d9.jpg

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 10:48 (twenty years ago)

Adorable! I actually have tears in my eyes when I look at the pictures on this thread. Guess I'm at that broody age...

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 10:50 (twenty years ago)

http://69.72.228.43/~go-quick/pics/seewas.jpg
Amber and Alice, April 2003

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/MarkGrout/AAGuitrock.jpg
Amber and Alice, Feb 26th 2006

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 12:25 (twenty years ago)

Archel, you're not alone. I always loved kids. But during and after ùy mregnany I get teary-eyed easily.

Mark, I hope my Ophelia will be as coolio as yours!!!

http://static.flickr.com/38/103358156_c77ef4b837.jpg?v=0

My little icebear! :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)

I know, this thread makes me teary, too. I get this perfect sense-memory of picking my babies up. The heft of them, and the way they'd mold their bodies onto my hip. The kissability of them.
My older one is still very hug-and-kiss-able. The younger is more "aw mom, cut it out," but sweet nonetheless.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:00 (twenty years ago)

oh wow mark that is so cool.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:09 (twenty years ago)


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